CONFIRMED Che Adams

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This is not good news. The fee isn't enough to make it good news. The only way United can save this is by reinvesting the money very wisely (we have a poor track record of doing so if at all).

If you keep having to sell your best players you will struggle to move forward. By May we will be counting this in the Blackman, Maguire, Murphy category.

I predict Che will score at least 12 goals for Birmingham this season.
 

I think we'll live to regret this one. I can see him going on to become a real star, just a shame we won't see it happen with us.
 
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wilder should wear a mask and ride a horse for that deal. Who said we were sort negotiators?



Oh, just a minute..... :oops:
 
Tyler Durden said:
Well you have to put in context. Adams very occasionally stood out as decent in the worst Sheffield United side for some 35 years. But flashes of talent don't really cut it when coupled with a questionable attitude and level of application.

Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he's still developing as a player then the Championship is not a place to still be finding your feet, it's an increasingly hard division and highly competitive, arguably more so than when we were last there. You have to look something like the finished article or at have more raw potential than Adams posesses. That's how I see it anyway.
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Fair enough and I can't really argue with that other than to say he has plenty of time to develop. Ultimately though, you say he won't play at Brum but how the hell will he develop on our bench? For me he has chosen the right decision because we haven't enough ambition as a club and he can probably see this and the pound signs are a lot better when your sat on their bench instead of ours.
 
Not bothered he's gone. Has talent with the ball in front of him but ponderous with his back to goal and didn't seem to have the wit and awareness to create partnerships up front. I can't tell you how irritating I found it when he got all Billy Big Bollocks and started diving all the time. Refs picked up on that very quickly and rightly yellow carded him. Not a leader or a player striving his guts out when we were behind.

As ever with United it is about how players are replaced. Our track record in recent years is appalling but we live in hope.

UTB.
 
zablade said:
Really? It's all about opinions I supose but I can't see it, I can't see it happening at all.
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He does have it in him, if he can make the most of it.

It absolutely won't unless he makes it happen.

Which is one of the reasons which makes me more comfortable with the sale.
 
We get more excited about selling players than we do buying them, good riddance he's a young 'un likely to go off the rails IMO
 
I just don't see him making it really. He's got a bit of turn of pace, a bit of finishing ability, lots of strength but little footballing intelligence, potential but doubts over his attitude.

It's very much 50:50 between keeping him or selling him, but if it's £2m and a sell-on fee, I'd probably have sold him and got 2 decent players in. I don't think he'd have made that much difference and we've made a massive profit on a player who's a 'maybe' at best for playing at a higher level than this.

Doubt we'll spend it but that's the price of being in League 1.

Just my 2 penneth.
 
wizadry said:
Fair enough and I can't really argue with that other than to say he has plenty of time to develop. Ultimately though, you say he won't play at Brum but how the hell will he develop on our bench? For me he has chosen the right decision because we haven't enough ambition as a club and he can probably see this and the pound signs are a lot better when your sat on their bench instead of ours.
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I agree, to be honest if I was in the same position and had no emotional ties to the club then I wouldn't have to think too long and hard about stepping up. Especially with United having stagnated for so long. In the long run however, I think the deal should benefit United more than either Birmingham or Adams (on the pretty bloody big condition that we invest accordingly).
 
I highly doubt he'll go on to become a top player, he simply isn't intelligent enough and needs to improve in too many areas.

But even if he does become a top player, so what? It doesn't look like happening for at least two years and we've got to deal in the here and now. We've been in L1 six bloody years. If he's the key to funding a capable promotion squad then so be it. Needs must. Obviously it'd be nicer to free up the funds by getting rid of the dross, but we can only dream of doing that thanks to Clough and his regime paying them all five times more than they're worth.
 
Ah ok, sorry got my posts all wrong today.

Che is a shit player we don't need dross like that at the club. We are much better off without shite like him, Murphy and Maguire cluttering up the place.

Now we have finally offloaded these useless wankers, we can finally start building a decent squad with the £3.39 we have in the bank.
 

EddieColquhoun said:
Is the reason you've forgotten about the bid for Calvert-Lewin?
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Because it could have been imaginary. Sunjihi even claimed he was having a medical.You reckon we'd turn down 1m for DCL and take(after sell on fees) around 1.3m for che? I don't think it got any further than paper talk. If we can't hold off Birmingham what chance have we got if Everton came sniffing around.
Let's be fair Che was the only player we could have made a decent profit on.
 
I don't think we've got anywhere near enough money for him, but I'll let them off if Wilder uses it well and produces the goods in the transfer market to make us better. By that I mean to firstly to replace Adams' goals and assists and then some and further strengthen other positions in the squad as is the whole point in selling him. If we can't achieve both of these things on a meesely £1.2m (upfront after taking away Ilkeston's sell on fee) then there really is no point and we've just thrown away another extremely promising youngster.
 
Sales of Murphy and Maguire of recent seasons hurt way more than this because how could we realistically replace those whilst in League 1? We can realistically replace Che imo.
 
From the pig end said:
Because it could have been imaginary. Sunjihi even claimed he was having a medical.You reckon we'd turn down 1m for DCL and take(after sell on fees) around 1.3m for che? I don't think it got any further than paper talk.
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We turned down a bid.
 
Bladesman said:
Ah ok, sorry got my posts all wrong today.

Che is a shit player we don't need dross like that at the club. We are much better off without shite like him, Murphy and Maguire cluttering up the place.

Now we have finally offloaded these useless wankers, we can finally start building a decent squad with the £3.39 we have in the bank.
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Nuke the fax machine ! And give Major Mcabe a seegar. You've done it again soldier
 
Tyler Durden said:
I agree, to be honest if I was in the same position and had no emotional ties to the club then I wouldn't have to think too long and hard about stepping up. Especially with United having stagnated for so long. In the long run however, I think the deal should benefit United more than either Birmingham or Adams (on the pretty bloody big condition that we invest accordingly).
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It's the investing bit what makes me as cynical as I am over the deal. Even if we try to invest it we bollocks it up.
 
bladesmanluke said:
I don't think we've got anywhere near enough money for him, but I'll let them off if Wilder uses it well and produces the goods in the transfer market to make us better. By that I mean to firstly to replace Adams' goals and assists and then some and further strengthen other positions in the squad as is the whole point in selling him. If we can't achieve both of these things on a meesely £1.2m (upfront after taking away Ilkeston's sell on fee) then there really is no point and we've just thrown away another extremely promising youngster.
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Where's that figure from?
 
Foxy said:
Pity really, he has all the attributes to become a top player, but he needs to decide where he wants to be in a couple of years and start working on it now... Rather than wasting the opportunity as many other have.

I'm disappointed he's gone... But not if we've got a good price and Wilder has made his own mind up on the above - which he says he has.
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Said pretty much exactly that to a pig earlier who'd clearly got his rod out to reel me in.

Sad to see him go but he's too hit n miss. When he's "hit" he's unplayable. Unfortunately he's "miss" quite a lot too.

If he knuckles down and stops going on the lash, we could have another "Vardy" type story... I'm not sure what he'll do though
 
Bladesman said:
Some old United, doing the same shit every summer and expecting the same results.
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Not taking the mick here What you have written is very close to the simpilified definition of Insanity Doing the same stuff over and over again expecting a different result. I don't know how you go about fixing it. If Wilder fails will he be sacked? You can't keep doing that until you're seen as a Poison Chalice. The whole thing becomes self-fulfilling then you really are in the brown stuff as an outsider looking in McCabe has to to back the club. Set a reasonable target to get out of league 1. Perhaps 3 seasons and provide backing because You should be aiming for automatic and tearing everyone else apart. If he misses that target he should activly find somebody who can. Birmingham City are a basket case club you shouldn't be selling to them whether its Adams or Walker the difference in quality doesn't matter you're still weaker for him going
 
Don't see any issue to be honest, Che wanted to speak to Brum, he wanted to leave the Blades, simple as that.
In my opinion, anyone that doesn't want to play for us can fuck off anyway, whether their a good player or not.
Hopefully we can get a couple of lads in that will boost the squad and give us that push for top 2!
Come on Chrissy baby, let's get on it!!!!
 
He's got the ability to be at least a top Championship player. Shame he's not got the mentality.

As long as the majority of the money is re-invested in making the team stronger as a whole I'm happy with the sale. And by the majority, I mean at least 1 million.
 

I'm not ITK, but has anyone thought that the negotiated fee may be in addition to Birmingham paying the Ilkeston sell on fee, that could be what all the declined offers were about?
 
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