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I've always felt a bit of sympathy for David Weir. Sheffield United is not a club to take your first job at.
He took on a challenge that was far too big for him, with little allowance for error and paid the price for it. He should've started out much lower and tried to progress from there.
 
I've always felt a bit of sympathy for David Weir. Sheffield United is not a club to take your first job at.
He took on a challenge that was far too big for him, with little allowance for error and paid the price for it. He should've started out much lower and tried to progress from there.

Add to that the change of ownership meant the goalposts moved very early on. Oh and of course selling the player he was building his team around.

The bloke made mistakes because he was new to management and naive and as you say, he should have started lower down the football chain.
 
I've always felt a bit of sympathy for David Weir. Sheffield United is not a club to take your first job at.
He took on a challenge that was far too big for him, with little allowance for error and paid the price for it. He should've started out much lower and tried to progress from there.
He could have started at Baslow and it wouldn't have made any difference. He just wasn't good at making decisions under pressure or showing leadership. He had no charisma, didn't even have the sense to acknowledge the crowd at Brentford.
He should stick to being an assistant manager as he seems pretty good at it.
 
Add to that the change of ownership meant the goalposts moved very early on. Oh and of course selling the player he was building his team around.

The bloke made mistakes because he was new to management and naive and as you say, he should have started lower down the football chain.

Even without a change in ownership (that he was supposedly aware of anyway) our performances would've been unacceptable, no need for moving goalposts to realise he was shit.

Of course it was poor to lose a player youd based a team around but again that doesn't excuse our performances, any manager of this club (or any other) should still be able to get a functioning team even after one player was sold.

I'd have him down as the worst manager we've had in the last 15 years.
 
I've always felt a bit of sympathy for David Weir. Sheffield United is not a club to take your first job at.
He took on a challenge that was far too big for him, with little allowance for error and paid the price for it. He should've started out much lower and tried to progress from there.

Again it's McCabe and the board taking advice / recommendations in good faith which turns out to be completely wrong . We fall for it hook line and sinker every time. Let's hope Wilder has broken the circle .

Managers manage , coaches coach . We still get that arse way up.

UTB
 
He could have started at Baslow and it wouldn't have made any difference. He just wasn't good at making decisions under pressure or showing leadership. He had no charisma, didn't even have the sense to acknowledge the crowd at Brentford.
He should stick to being an assistant manager as he seems pretty good at it.

But had he made his mistakes lower down the chain they would have had less impact, he may have learned and not made them again. I'm sorry but I don't give a shiny shit how much charisma a manager has if they can get a team to win football matches then that is all I care about. I don't need to see someone running up and down the touch line with their head on fire to know they care.
 
But had he made his mistakes lower down the chain they would have had less impact, he may have learned and not made them again. I'm sorry but I don't give a shiny shit how much charisma a manager has if they can get a team to win football matches then that is all I care about. I don't need to see someone running up and down the touch line with their head on fire to know they care.
Generally having a bit of charisma indicates an ability to man manage. Yes, there's always the odd exception like SOD but in the main, most managers have a bit of personality.

Whatever level he was at he'd have probably still signed shit players and used shit tactics. And still got the sack.
 
But had he made his mistakes lower down the chain they would have had less impact, he may have learned and not made them again. I'm sorry but I don't give a shiny shit how much charisma a manager has if they can get a team to win football matches then that is all I care about. I don't need to see someone running up and down the touch line with their head on fire to know they care.

Alan Knill reminds me of David Weir ( with the exception of the squirrel saga ) . Charisma bypass , poor manager but ok coach . Bit horses for courses .

It's building a balance . What top manager doesn't have charisma - seems to go hand in hand with success .

Thank fuck we are not premiership or we would be touting for Woy .
 
Alan Knill reminds me of David Weir ( with the exception of the squirrel saga ) . Charisma bypass , poor manager but ok coach . Bit horses for courses .

It's building a balance . What top manager doesn't have charisma - seems to go hand in hand with success .

Thank fuck we are not premiership or we would be touting for Woy .

I tend to agree with you, being the front face of the club, facing the media etc does lend itself to charisma being a plus. I would also agree that Weir probably is a better coach and number 2 than a manager but I also think we ruined him before he actually had a chance to prove decisively one way or another. Let's be fair half a season isn't long enough, especially with a basket case club like ours.

I suppose the real crime is we got him in the first place. Who sanctioned that again? Oh yeah the same bloke who sacked Wilson on a whim, oh and Blackwell, oh and Clough.....
 

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