The unemployed and unemployable

[Grappler]

Agree with the OP to a certain extent, some of these players have never had it so good, great money, a big crowd to play in front of every week, first class facilities, and they chose to toss it off.

Don't agree with Cuvelier, but it is all about opinions.

The telling part, for me, over the last few seasons, has been that we heard gossip and rumours of "this team are coming in for Ryan Flynn", or "that team are looking at George Long", and then we would get a statement from Cloughie saying "we have not been approached for any of our players".

I think I believe Cloughie. Any scout who watched our team and then recommended any of the players would have been sacked!

 

[Deleted member 875]

The thing is that Cuvelier spent an inordinate amount on the lame and lazy list.

If he was a Greyhound he would be at the bottom of Damflask in a bag full of bricks

 

[northsomersetblade]

I don't even care how shit they were, they could have tried harder and pretended they gave a fuck. Other managers will have noticed.

 

[Treeton Blade]

Its quite telling that of the 10 players released there hasn't been one who's signed elsewhere.

Also see no ones snapped that fucking donkey Sammon up yet.

That wage theif Cuvelier will never play football again and his treatment table pal
Wallace will be following him this time next year after he's stolen another years wages off us (thanks Clough you cunt)

I sincerely hope these cunts all look back on what a wasted opportunity they've passed up and explain to their families their lack of pride, professionalism and being lazy heartless bastards is the reason they've been dumped on the dole.

When I think back over the last 3 years I just get angry with all the gutless performances I've witnessed

In future years this dark period of our history will be classed as worse than when we went down to the 4th!

Sammon has been linked to Aberdeen, he did ok for Kilmarnock up there, and somehow got a move to Premiership Wigan Athletic on the back of it.

 

[Darren]

Oh yeah it's the fans fault - I presume you're upset to see them leave and we should have given Cuvelier a 2 year deal.

If I get an illness in my employment im pretty sure I wouldn't be paid in full for 2 years. But I'll bear in mind to call Injury lawyers for you!

Why is it pointless post Woodwardfan ? It's to do with players who played for SUFC and this is a forum to discuss such matters.

Footballers are on fixed term contracts. The employer is therefore legally obliged to pay them for the entirety of the term, even when they are injured. Most of the rest of us are on ongoing contracts terminable on notice by either side (though employers can't terminate contracts for unfair or discriminatory reasons). If someone on the latter type of contract is too ill to perform their duties, after a reasonable period, the employer could fairly terminate the contract.

Hence, Cuvelier was entitled to be paid, even if he couldn't play. As for the moral criticism of him, I highly doubt many people on here, if they had a contract where the employer was obliged to pay them for a set amount of time, even when they were too ill to work, would tell the employer to keep his money.

 

[sheffielder]

The thing is that Cuvelier spent an inordinate amount on the lame and lazy list.

If he was a Greyhound he would be at the bottom of Damflask in a bag full of bricks

In what way was he lazy?

 

[Cyprus Blade]

“We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde

 

[Blade82]

Can we just move on. Jesus we've had a clear out and trying to move on yet we seem obsessed with where the shit we've released are going

 

[Bladesman]

Can we just move on. Jesus we've had a clear out and trying to move on yet we seem obsessed with where the shit we've released are going

Lets just assume they will all end up at Portsmouth and leave it at that.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Its quite telling that of the 10 players released there hasn't been one who's signed elsewhere.

Also see no ones snapped that fucking donkey Sammon up yet.

That wage theif Cuvelier will never play football again and his treatment table pal
Wallace will be following him this time next year after he's stolen another years wages off us (thanks Clough you cunt)

I sincerely hope these cunts all look back on what a wasted opportunity they've passed up and explain to their families their lack of pride, professionalism and being lazy heartless bastards is the reason they've been dumped on the dole.

When I think back over the last 3 years I just get angry with all the gutless performances I've witnessed

In future years this dark period of our history will be classed as worse than when we went down to the 4th!

It's definitely worse than when we went to the 4th. Cloudy....revered because of his bastard of a father. What they share in being pigheaded bastards they do not share in managerial ability.
Adkins....bastard if he turns up at the lane next season let's make it the worst day of his life.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

It's early doors yet and I suspect the majority will have pre season trials with various tinpot outfits which might be the time one or two fall to reality with a bump and realise they aren't the superstars they might have thought they were

I think they know they've had it easy. Reality looming ahead.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

LS26BLADE has it spot on.

Long term injured players aside, these cunts have shown nothing but contempt for this club, both in their gutless, lazy "displays" on the pitch and twattish conduct off of it.

This was the best opportunity most of them ever had and they shat on it.
I said just after the released list came out that I hope these fucking wasters take one last look at the ground as they leave, and realise how badly they fucked it up.

I genuinely and sincerely wish them nothing but failure long after they've left here.

I won't be happy til every wanker who played for Clough or Adkins is gone.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Can we just move on. Jesus we've had a clear out and trying to move on yet we seem obsessed with where the shit we've released are going

OK. You called the 11 players lazy, gutless, wage thiefs and heartless bastards lacking professional pride:

The cheats you referred to were Sammon and J.Wallace plus the 10 released players:


Players who would never be accused of not trying to the best of their abilities to my knowledge:

Hammond
Flynn
Harris
Campbell-Ryce
McEveley
Kennedy
McGahey
McFadzean

J.Wallace and Cuvelier have had serious injury problems which have affected their ability to work. So too has Kennedy.

Baxter is a sad case of a lad who is choosing to ruin his ability to earn a football salary, not physically injured but mentally maybe. Maybe he is the only one who deserves your comments in the O.P.

Question players' ability and the managers for signing them by all means but not what you said.

As for none of them being snapped up by another club, nor have we signed a single player yet, so everybody has time at this time of year.

I do think the O.P. is pointless and worthless but I do notice you have a couple of 'likes' so I withdraw the pointless comment.

I never said "it was the fans' fault" of course, just your fault LS





26.

You think the players named always put in the effort?
Everyone's entitled to an opinion of course.
I would empty them into a huge bin lorry and take them off to landfill.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Its quite telling that of the 10 players released there hasn't been one who's signed elsewhere.

Also see no ones snapped that fucking donkey Sammon up yet.

That wage theif Cuvelier will never play football again and his treatment table pal
Wallace will be following him this time next year after he's stolen another years wages off us (thanks Clough you cunt)

I sincerely hope these cunts all look back on what a wasted opportunity they've passed up and explain to their families their lack of pride, professionalism and being lazy heartless bastards is the reason they've been dumped on the dole.

When I think back over the last 3 years I just get angry with all the gutless performances I've witnessed

In future years this dark period of our history will be classed as worse than when we went down to the 4th!

They’ve only been released a week ago! Hardly anyone released from anywhere has been signed up yet.


I fully expect the likes of Harris, Flynn, McEveley and JCR to get offers from smaller clubs in League 1. They are average league 1 players. Just not good enough to play a key role in a promotion charge. The likes of Oldham, Fleetwood, Vale etc. I’m sure would take them. Cuvelier and Kennedy might struggle because of their injury record and Baxter is of course Baxter. McGahey might drop to league 2 but is young enough to come again. McFadzean will be lucky to make a living out of the game. Edgar will sign for a club at least at league 1 level, possibly championship. Maybe one of our promotion rivals. Sammon and Howard I could see maybe ending up in Scotland.


I do love the term ‘bad cunt’ used later in the thread though.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

The season hasn't even finished yet.

Have a look at the players that have agreed deals so far - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers i've heard of about 3 players on there. Some players and managers are on holiday, give it time.

As Woodwardfan pointed out Cuvelier and Wallace aren't "wage thieves". They have been unfortunate and got injured, that's not their fault.

Clough shouldn't have given Wallace the length of contract he did given his previous injuries. That's Clough's fault, not Wallace's.
Cuvelier has been incredibly unlucky. He came back then got injured again, it must be so difficult for them. All they want to do is play the game they love and do their 'job'.

Is Brayford a wage thief??

I just don't know how some can protect these so called , get them under the trade description act - professional footballers.

If we had not been very poor over a 46 game season , and continually flatter to deceive , I would be more sympathetic . We are in a fortunate situation / position were we have been able to get rid of the manager and players . Not many clubs can do this.

Let's be careful and not try and defend the indefensible.

These players have not only let themselves down , but let Sheffield United Football Club down. Injured or not fuck em , I am glad to see the back of them.

It wasn't like they were on £20k a year.

Bradford came with a wage cut . No he is not a wage thief . Fuck the rest . Glad Wilder has more sense and bollocks than some.

UTB

 

[Woodwardfan]

I just don't know how some can protect these so called , get them under the trade description act - professional footballers.

If we had not been very poor over a 46 game season , and continually flatter to deceive , I would be more sympathetic . We are in a fortunate situation / position were we have been able to get rid of the manager and players . Not many clubs can do this.

Let's be careful and not try and defend the indefensible.

These players have not only let themselves down , but let Sheffield United Football Club down. Injured or not fuck em , I am glad to see the back of them.

It wasn't like they were on £20k a year.

Bradford came with a wage cut . No he is not a wage thief . Fuck the rest . Glad Wilder has more sense and bollocks than some.

UTB

Nobody has said they will be pleased with how things have gone for them or the club but it is poor form to call them cheats, wage thieves, heartless, lazy b******s, c***s lacking pride and professionalism. Some good blokes in that list and they are moving on. Let's have a bit of respect.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Can we just move on. Jesus we've had a clear out and trying to move on yet we seem obsessed with where the shit we've released are going

Ok then can the forum
Stop Warnock threads

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Can we just move on. Jesus we've had a clear out and trying to move on yet we seem obsessed with where the shit we've released are going

Ok then can the forum
Stop Warnock threads

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Nobody has said they will be pleased with how things have gone for them or the club but it is poor form to call them cheats, wage thieves, heartless, lazy b******s, c***s lacking pride and professionalism. Some good blokes in that list and they are moving on. Let's have a bit of respect.

And that's where you and I disagree they've performed shit and not given a fuck about us the poor fans. So no I don't think they are 'good blokes' if football players can accept the plaudits when things go well they should accept the opposite when they don't.

 

[Punk Blade]

It's like a mini Leeds United under Peter Risdale , when that player from Derby County went to Leeds with his agent , with the intention of taking nothing less than £17.5k per week . Leeds tabled £37.5k for the opening offer.
The player rightly agreed and signed on the dotted line.

I think the story was Seth Johnson and his agent went to discuss terms with Leeds and when they offered way more than they expected they burst out laughing. Leeds thought they were laughing at the offer being too low so offered even more. When they'd stopped laughing Johnson signed the improved offer. Think he ended up on about £60k/wk.

 

[The Crab]

I'm sure when they all get back from their hollibobs with a hangover, a tan and a newly aquired rash, the transfer merry go round will spring into action.

 

[Deleted member 875]

Nobody has said they will be pleased with how things have gone for them or the club but it is poor form to call them cheats, wage thieves, heartless, lazy b******s, c***s lacking pride and professionalism. Some good blokes in that list and they are moving on. Let's have a bit of respect.

It is returning the same respect that those shower of wage thieving, oxygen stealing parasites treated us with.

I can categorically say that I have never felt as contemptuous of a set of Sheffield United footballers as I have done with that collective of lame, lazy and talentless parasites that we had disgracing the illustrious red and white stripes next season.

If they had any form of pride, dignity or respect they would have put a bit more effort in to give a better account of themselves but they didn't........

 

[coaxingstar71]

I see we have the usual mix of reasoned logic and ridiculous comments on this thread!

Makes me laugh that the logical reasoning posters try to reason with those who post ridiculous comments - there's really no point. Someone suggested that maybe the fans (forum posters) should be a little bit more understanding of why certain players couldn't contribute due to injuries etc, but then that was taken as suggesting "it's the fans fault". Those of us that understand reason, know that's not what was being said but then before you know it, another half dozen or so jump on the bandwagon.

So, no, it's obviously not the fans fault that players are either injured or under-performing, but is it not better to try to understand the reasons why a player might be perceived to be under-performing rather than just coming out with lazy comments such as "wage thieves".

Example : James Wallace - poor injury record before he joined the club. Given a 3 year contract and surprise surprise, has spent the last 2 seasons mostly injured. So who's fault is that?

The player - for snapping the hand off the club for offering the contract - ("er no I won't bother because I've been injured a lot and I don't think I deserve it" - really?)

The club - for offering a ludicrous contract to a player who's obviously been plagued by injury so far in his career.

For the record, the few times I've seen Wallace play, I thought he looked a good robust midfielder with a good engine - exactly the type of player we need.............. apart from the injuries.

There have been other comments about Cuvelier and Adams having bulked up and Adams losing pace. Combined with the number of injuries we've had, perhaps the question should be : is there a problem with the treatment and rehabilitation of players at the club? What training regimes are they doing?

If he gets a chance, I'm interested to see how Coutts plays next season. He's looks knackered after 60 mins of each game in which he doesn't seem to be "up and down" that much. I wonder why that is - is it because he's lazy or is there some other reason such as the training at the club is not suited to what he needs to enable him to be a better athlete?

It's not the fans fault obviously - but I think you need to look beyond "he's a useless lazy c...".

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Nobody has said they will be pleased with how things have gone for them or the club but it is poor form to call them cheats, wage thieves, heartless, lazy b******s, c***s lacking pride and professionalism. Some good blokes in that list and they are moving on. Let's have a bit of respect.

Woody they may well be good blokes and live a virtuous life . However all I want is blokes / footballers who will run through brick walls for SUFC. If these chaps now left the club , had a little bit more due care and attention , we may well have got promoted or hit the play offs.

Football is a ruthless profession , but also very rewarding . Theses individuals have to take the rough with the smooth . What do they deserve , what does the club owe them - absolutely nothing . No sympathy , feelings for any of them. Good riddance.

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Needless and wrong. I'm guessing it's too late to edit this post but you should if you can.

Bladesway , I don't blame Hammond for looking after his family , what I object to is the way it's been stupidly done be them up top .
A man or woman, has to look after there family the best they can , within the law ,
I think the man needs to look himself in the eye in the mirror and say what he's doing is right ,
I think the man's family is off limits .
It's not how I would have done things , but that's just me ,

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

I think the story was Seth Johnson and his agent went to discuss terms with Leeds and when they offered way more than they expected they burst out laughing. Leeds thought they were laughing at the offer being too low so offered even more. When they'd stopped laughing Johnson signed the improved offer. Think he ended up on about £60k/wk.

Punk that's the one , and yes it was £60k a week. At least we are not that bad pro rata , are we

UTB

 

[Blade82]

Ok then can the forum
Stop Warnock threads

At least he did some good here. these set off useless bastards did nothing but drag us down further and the sooner we forget about them the better. Hopefully we go up this year and the past 5seasons can be erased from my memory forever

 

[Blade82]

You think the players named always put in the effort?
Everyone's entitled to an opinion of course.
I would empty them into a huge bin lorry and take them off to landfill.

You're right this bunch of players will go down in history as the worst to ever grace the BL pitch but we need to lift the doom and gloom and let it go. Fuck em end of

 

[axel smeets]

Nobody has said they will be pleased with how things have gone for them or the club but it is poor form to call them cheats, wage thieves, heartless, lazy b******s, c***s lacking pride and professionalism. Some good blokes in that list and they are moving on. Let's have a bit of respect.

Respect for what? Blokes earning 6 times the average wage who put nothing into this club, repeatedly on the spine donor list.

Respect for the blokes who contributed to the lowest league position since the year I was born? It's taken the duration of my entire life for us to be this bad again, and we should have respect?

Everyone is entitled to an opinion mate, but I cannot see where the validity is in yours.

 

[Rodley]

“We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde

Not sure bitter, middle aged blokes whinging on the Internet was quite what Ozzy had in mind re: "looking at the stars" Walth