Would this team survive next season?

[grafikhaus]

10/10 for your multi thread copy and paste skills....

Kinda Ironic that your opinion is that some threads are not others opinions but fake-news......very opinionated if you ask me.... (but that's just my opinion).

By #fakenews, I mean that there's not a shred of evidence to back up these stories, it's just supposition. (See? Now I've mastered 'copying and pasting', this week I'm learning how to do links. ) Why would Wilder go to basket-case Sunderland and why would they want him? So they're suddenly debt-free and minted having sunk to the Third Division? And they've got a history of employing useless managers who talk a good talk - Coleman being just the latest. (Moyes, Allardyce, Grayson, Poyet, di Canio etc.)

West Brom? They'll give Darren Moore a go next season. Sell Brooks? He's got a way to go before he proves his worth. Wilder and/or Fleck, again idle chit-chat. But it will be music to the ears of the pigs fans who, after all, will believe anything. 'Just seen this over on S24SU' etc. It's just wishful thinking on their part, of the type we had when Warnock and Bassett were managers, because they're scared. I don't remember anything similar about other clubs trying to poach Adkins, Clough, Blackwell etc. 'cos they were crap.

My opinion.

 

[PaulHalfway]

Identify the areas we can improve
Fairly obvious really, new centre half, two new forwards, definitely need to add pace up front
How do we break quickly, very difficult to get through teams when they are organised and have every man behind the ball
Better delivery from corners and set pieces
Goal keeper situation needs resolving
Clearly investment is required to move forward, hopefully this is forthcoming
If we have to buy again in the lower division, guess where we will end up

 

[Maidenhead]

Identify the areas we can improve
Fairly obvious really, new centre half, two new forwards, definitely need to add pace up front
How do we break quickly, very difficult to get through teams when they are organised and have every man behind the ball
Better delivery from corners and set pieces
Goal keeper situation needs resolving
Clearly investment is required to move forward, hopefully this is forthcoming
If we have to buy again in the lower division, guess where we will end up

That depends on the quality of the recruitment, not where the players come from.

 

[BigBed]

Still NO.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

It isn't what this thread typifies. This thread is simply accounting for the unlikely worst case scenario and about whether we could cope. But obviously that's too hard for some to understand.

It's a thread about the worst case scenario which typifies a whole raft of threads speculating about disasters that haven't happened yet. Is that too hard for you to understand?
Why focus on a worst case scenario that even you say is unlikely? I would understand the desire to discuss it if it was mixed in with a load of threads speculating about how we are going to improve on this season's showing - but where are they? Blades are miserable moaners at the best of times, but 6 years in League 1 seems to have sucked the last ounce of optimism from a lot of people.

 

[Ricky]

It's a thread about the worst case scenario which typifies a whole raft of threads speculating about disasters that haven't happened yet. Is that too hard for you to understand?
Why focus on a worst case scenario that even you say is unlikely? I would understand the desire to discuss it if it was mixed in with a load of threads speculating about how we are going to improve on this season's showing - but where are they? Blades are miserable moaners at the best of times, but 6 years in League 1 seems to have sucked the last ounce of optimism from a lot of people.

I'm not focused on the worst case scenario. This is one thread. Nothing to do with others. It's purpose should be very obvious. I've made plenty of other more optimistic posts. Incidentally I even suggest we'd probably stay up in this worst case scenario, which is really quite positive.

Threads are going to reflect the current time - and at the minute there's more to be pessimistic about. Nothing's stopping you starting a super positive 'why next season's going to be great' thread, so feel free.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

I'm not focused on the worst case scenario. This is one thread. Nothing to do with others. It's purpose should be very obvious. I've made plenty of other more optimistic posts. Incidentally I even suggest we'd probably stay up in this worst case scenario, which is really quite positive.

I'm just reacting to the wave of negativity hitting the forum despite what is (imo) a very good return to the Championship and it landed on this thread, which you have to admit is a negative future scenario.

Threads are going to reflect the current time - and at the minute it looks bleak. Nothing's stopping you starting a super positive 'why next season's going to be great' thread, so feel free.

Despite it not being my style, I suppose I've backed myself into a corner there.

 

[Ricky]

I'm just reacting to the wave of negativity hitting the forum despite what is (imo) a very good return to the Championship and it landed on this thread, which you have to admit is a negative future scenario.


Despite it not being my style, I suppose I've backed myself into a corner there.

I agree it's been a good return to this league. I don't like how quickly football fans lose perspective. I don't like unjustified negativity. But I can also understand frustrations because although it's been good, it could've been better and there's a serious risk of the club throwing away a great opportunity with the best manager we could hope for.

This thread is a negative scenario, but by no means a prediction. In a nutshell 'I don't think this will happen but if it does can we survive' - and I think we could so you could spin this as a positive thread!

 

[Hamburg Blade]

I agree it's been a good return to this league. I don't like how quickly football fans lose perspective. I don't like unjustified negativity. But I can also understand frustrations because although it's been good, it could've been better and there's a serious risk of the club throwing away a great opportunity with the best manager we could hope for.

This thread is a negative scenario, but by no means a prediction. In a nutshell 'I don't think this will happen but if it does can we survive' - and I think we could so you could spin this as a positive thread!

I've taken on your suggestion so I will be retiring to my bunker for a while. Bye.

 

[Johnstreet John]

That team is bottom 5. Even Wilder cant turn water to wine. This is the exact reason he's talking like is. He knows he can walk away now and be a blades legend but hang around with a team like this and risk losing the fans . Comparisons with the deluded and Carlos. Carlos held out longer than his head told him to . As much as Wilder is 1000% blade, he's professional and won't let that get in his way. Really do think he's off.

 

[andy m]

Coutts coming back from a second "career ending" injury. May not be the player he was. Team may struggle.

Since when has a broken leg been career ending?

 

[Snowman]

Since when has a broken leg been career ending?

Depends how bad it is and especially if it doesn't knit straight or with the same length.

Just a few here, but I would have thought one of our own destroyed by Ainsworth might have been one for you to ponder? Maybe you don't remember him?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3819958/Footballers-careers-ended-injury.html

 

[andy m]

Depends how bad it is and especially if it doesn't knit straight or with the same length.

Just a few here, but I would have thought one of our own destroyed by Ainsworth might have been one for you to ponder? Maybe you don't remember him?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3819958/Footballers-careers-ended-injury.html

But we already know it was a straight forward break not requiring surgery. Physically it will not hamper him at all and after coming back from the far more serious leg injury I doubt it will mentally either.
Oh and medicine has moved on from the nineties as well.

 

[Snowman]

But we already know it was a straight forward break not requiring surgery. Physically it will not hamper him at all and after coming back from the far more serious leg injury I doubt it will mentally either.
Oh and medicine has moved on from the nineties as well.

I would never consider any break to be straightforward. Too much to go wrong. How long did it take him to get back up to speed from the last one and he's older? Hope you're right. I am less confident.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I honestly don't see where the goals would come from in that team.

The wing backs are one a season men.
The centre backs have four between them all season.
Neither Coutts nor Evans, despite the latter's effort vs Boro are prolific. You'll be lucky to get five between them.
Duffy has just three this season also.
Billy has 13 and Leon 18, but they are not the same players as started the season. I'm not sure they manage much more than half that next season.

Even if you throw in a few from others, you are struggling to muster a goal per game.

Perhaps the team would finish higher than Barnsley/Burton and the other teams coming up, but without some more pace or scoring I would see a season with far more defeats than victories.

Is the assumption both Fleck and Brooks are sold? Or are you picking Duffy/Leon/Billy ahead of Brooks, who you would see improving after overcoming his illness and ye olde favorite of getting another pre-season under his belt.

but they'd have some cracking nights out

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I would never consider any break to be straightforward. Too much to go wrong. How long did it take him to get back up to speed from the last one and he's older? Hope you're right. I am less confident.

Think Wallace

 

[Snowman]

Think Wallace

Rather not!

 

[andy m]

The last one was a knee injury which is far more complicated. I honestly think he will be back to his best by the time the season starts, but maybe thats just me being overly optimistic.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Depends if we carry the form of our last 27 league games into next season. If so then no, we would probably struggle to stay up.

 

[robbiez666]

If the summer recruitment mirror the JTW and one or two of the better players leave, we'll likely go down. We may just survive but it really would be just.

 

[Grappler]

We need to start keeping hold of a lead and keep a clean sheet. Whether that means a new CB or someone in midfield who can put a real tackle in, and break up/slow down play, is up to the management team. We need some pace up front, either a striker or an attacking, goal scoring midfielder.

CW and AK already know this.

 

[Tom Bott]

We’re going to have to display a lot of patience

On a football forum ?

 

[Keen Blade]

Don’t forget Ched will have had his 7th full pre season by that point so you never know what he may produce..

Another year of famine ...... It is written in the good book

 

[Tom Bott]

It's a thread about the worst case scenario which typifies a whole raft of threads speculating about disasters that haven't happened yet. Is that too hard for you to understand?

Or - board invests 50 million on players who underperform and we end up relegated anyway.

Club goes into liquidation.

Wilder walks with no team to go to because he spent 50 million on players who were no good.

Fans all spend Saturday afternoons in Meadowhall arguing with their partners of which flavour of cereal to buy, divorce rate triples.

s 24su forum only has one topic 'anyone remember SUFC' .

or it could all be less depressing

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Or - board invests 50 million on players who underperform and we end up relegated anyway.

Club goes into liquidation.

Wilder walks with no team to go to because he spent 50 million on players who were no good.

Fans all spend Saturday afternoons in Meadowhall arguing with their partners of which flavour of cereal to buy, divorce rate triples.

s 24su forum only has one topic 'anyone remember SUFC' .

or it could all be less depressing

Can I have the "less depressing than that" please Bob?

 

[snootyfenooty]

This years team would struggle next season - we would be lucky at any point in the season to even think about flirting with the top 6.

I think you're right, the "momentum" that carried us forward from L1 ran out of steam in November. The same "momentum" we would be carrying forward from the last few months into next season would make us relegation candidates.

However, ever the optimist that I am, I can see Brooks becoming a mainstay in the team and one, maybe two coming through the ranks and knocking on the door as Brooks has done this season. The other thing Wilder has to do is to stop bleating about the owners lack of support when he pissed away what money there was in the JTW.

The main thing is to hang on to Fleck and build around him. It's him not Coutts who's going to be pivotal next year, the latter who I fear may be a busted flush.