Worst 11 of the last decade

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We're far too sodding happy at the moment. Let's look back at some of the dross from the last ten years and make ourselves delirious.

Here's mine, managed by Kevin Blackwell (toss up with Adams and Weir). Also note, there were probably worse players who played less, but these lot stood out. Feel a touch guilty about putting Porter and Doyle in there.

- - - -

Steve Simonson

Marcus Williams
Matt Hill
Jay McEveley
Craig Alcock

Michael Doyle
Dean Hammond
Martyn Woolford

Chris Porter
Conor Sammon
Michael Higdon

- - - -

I feel sick.
 



Porter????????
Scored some big goals for us that lad. Welcome at the Lane anytime. Cult hero.

Like I say, I felt a touch guilty and yes he scored a few memorable goals, but sorry, he was shit.

Apologies Chris.
 
Blackwell was nowhere near the worst manager.

Presided over the most insipid playoff final display ever in the previous decade. You could argue Adams and Weir were worse, but the former had plenty of success elsewhere as a manager, and the latter was a daft appointment who was never ready for the challenge.
 
Presided over the most insipid playoff final display ever in the previous decade. You could argue Adams and Weir were worse, but the former had plenty of success elsewhere as a manager, and the latter was a daft appointment who was never ready for the challenge.

Yeah the po final was crap, but he got us there in the first place.

Easily 5 worse managers.

Adams
Weir
Carver
Morgan
Adkins
 
Yeah the po final was crap, but he got us there in the first place.

Easily 5 worse managers.

Adams
Weir
Carver
Morgan
Adkins

Fair enough, opinions and all that, but I would say:

Adams and Weir explained above.
Carver and Morgs - caretaker managers to I've generously discounted them.
Adkins - immeasurably better manager than Blackwell despite being a twonk.

Blackwell set us on the path towards League 1. Dogshit.
 
Porter????????
Scored some big goals for us that lad. Welcome at the Lane anytime. Cult hero.
He was a hero v the scabs and for that I’m forever grateful. In a better team he would have scored more. Also remember the Fulham game and the chant about if he’d scored we’d be in the Thames.
 
Yeah the po final was crap, but he got us there in the first place.

Easily 5 worse managers.

Adams
Weir
Carver
Morgan
Adkins

Carver and Morgan were only acting managers. For me I would say our last 10 managers are lined up like this (worst to best):

  1. Weir
  2. Robson
  3. Adams
  4. Speed
  5. Adkins
  6. Clough
  7. Blackwell
  8. Wilson
  9. Warnock
  10. Wilder
 
There’s no way you can have a worst 11 of the last decade, and not have Jordan Stewart in it.

Fuck, forgot about Stewart. Mind you, not sure where he fits into that team. I suppose by popular demand I could whip out Porter. But then I'd like McNulty in there too who I had a personal distaste of.
 
He was a hero v the scabs and for that I’m forever grateful. In a better team he would have scored more. Also remember the Fulham game and the chant about if he’d scored we’d be in the Thames.

I thought it was:

"If Porter scores
We're on the pitch
If Porter scores
We're on the pitch."


I think you'll have to go a long way to beat

------------------------Long-------------------------------

Taylor---McEveley---Collins---Higginbotham---Westlake

---------Howard--------Ertl----------Flynn-----------------

-------------------------Baxter-------------------------------

-------------------------Higdon-----------------------------

Managed by Wier, for shitness.

pommpey
 



I thought it was:

"If Porter scores
We're on the pitch
If Porter scores
We're on the pitch."


I think you'll have to go a long way to beat

------------------------Long-------------------------------

Taylor---McEveley---Collins---Higginbotham---Westlake

---------Howard--------Ertl----------Flynn-----------------

-------------------------Baxter-------------------------------

-------------------------Higdon-----------------------------

Managed by Wier, for shitness.

pommpey

Howard left us in 2009 so just misses the cut off. And while I disagree with a number of those, I'm appalled by Andy Taylor being in there! And Flynn in front of Hammond and Woolford!
 
Fair enough, opinions and all that, but I would say:

Adams and Weir explained above.
Carver and Morgs - caretaker managers to I've generously discounted them.
Adkins - immeasurably better manager than Blackwell despite being a twonk.

Blackwell set us on the path towards League 1. Dogshit.
I’d say if you added up what Blackwell spent on transfers and wages v the state we were in when KM sacked him he’s got to be up there with Weir and Robson. Not only did he spend the second tranche of our parachute payments but the West Ham money and the money raised from the sale of the two Kyles. On loans, crocks and wasters.
Now that Wilder has shown us what a good job looks like, there isn’t really any excuse for thinking Blackwell did anything close to a good job.
 
Fair enough, opinions and all that, but I would say:

Adams and Weir explained above.
Carver and Morgs - caretaker managers to I've generously discounted them.
Adkins - immeasurably better manager than Blackwell despite being a twonk.

Blackwell set us on the path towards League 1. Dogshit.

But if he hadn't have been sacked that season I reckon we'd have finished 16th or 17th in the Championship, albeit having played some of the worst football ever seen at the lane.

When I look back over the last 10 years now though I can do so with a smile on my face as I know that if all this shit hadn't happened and these awful players hadn't darkened our pitch we wouldn't have been at the point where the chairman got Wilder in for an interview.

For the worst 11 probably best to go here:

 
'sake, someone always gets there first.

fml

mods, delete thread.
 
I’d say if you added up what Blackwell spent on transfers and wages v the state we were in when KM sacked him he’s got to be up there with Weir and Robson. Not only did he spend the second tranche of our parachute payments but the West Ham money and the money raised from the sale of the two Kyles. On loans, crocks and wasters.
Now that Wilder has shown us what a good job looks like, there isn’t really any excuse for thinking Blackwell did anything close to a good job.

I always got the impression that Blackwell got told he couldn't spend much and had to deal with what he got.

In his first full season McCabe sells Beattie, mid bloody season replaced by Craig Beattie. In my view that alone was the killer for us regardless of what Blackwell did to manage that. He didn't sign anyone for a transfer fee I don't think in his first full season. He just was allowed the loans of Cahill, O'Toole, Bromby and Lupoli. While Beattie, Stead, Tonge and Armstrong all got sold. Keef's contract got cancelled as well.

In his second season around 20 players left the club including both Kyle's. The most he spent was £3mil for Ched but if I remember rightly much of that fee was based on appearances and performances. 9 players arrived and 4 of those were free transfers. There were some undisclosed fees but I can't imagine we paid a fortune for the likes of Bromby and Stewart.

Under Blackwell the football was poor but effective but he couldn't wheel and deal like Warnock. Most of the players he brought in were worse than what we had before.
 
Richard Wright

Westlake - Alcock- McEveley - Stewart

Brandy - Hammond - Woolford - Williams

--------- Sammon -- Higdon -----------

Bench:

Simonsen
McGinty
Ertl
Ironside
Parrino
King
Lappin

Shoutout to Doyle/Collins too who although I don't think they were the worst, it's no coincidence that with them as part of the spine of the team we went through our worst years in living memory.

Joint Managers: Weir/Adams/Adkins

Christ we've had some shite in recent times
 
There’s no way you can have a worst 11 of the last decade, and not have Jordan Stewart in it.

He might sneak in by virtue of playing 11 games (9 starts) in 2010 but he doesn't really feel like a 10s player.

There was a lengthy discussion about the worst XI on Beans and Roygbiv 's Man U preview thread (here); below is mine which takes advantage of Dean Hammond's invisibility to utilise a novel 4-5-2 formation.

Where do you start with the worst XI?! I've gone for a 4-4-2 formation as that's what all outdated, underperforming sides seem to use; the eagle eyed among you will spot that there are 5 midfielders but one of them is the invisible Dean Hammond so I figure we'd get away with it.

GK: Mark Howard. The most mediocre goalkeeper of a fairly poor selection: we didn't actually have any horrendous goalkeepers through the 10s but then neither did we have any good ones until Henderson joined in 2018.

RB: Darryl Westlake. Another in a line of players we signed from Walsall with high expectations and low reality. Sank quickly, last seen at Stourbridge in 2016.
DC: Neill Collins. The fact that we sank from the Championship into the quagmire of League One and couldn't get out was because our spine was poor - nowhere near as good as they thought they were. Collins' ability to deflect the blame onto his younger colleagues was impressive, his series of sub-par performances less so.
DC: Danny Higginbotham. Should have retired six months before he pitched up at the Lane; played like he already had
LB: Marcus Williams. It wasn't his fault he was shit but it was a fact. Incapable of a five yard pass; specialised in shanking clearances into touch 5 yards up the line

RM: Fabien Brandy. Dead from the neck up as evidenced by those two red cards.
MC: Michael Doyle. This will be controversial but the fact remains that while Doyle was at the Lane, we were awful.
MC: Dean Hammond. Parasite. Did lots of unseen work; so busy doing that that he did fuck all visible work...except giving away a ludicrous penalty in the 93rd minute at Old Trafford
MC: Florent Cuvelier. Promised so much, delivered so little. Permanently injured
LM: Kieran Wallace. It wasn't his fault we plucked him from non-league and dumped him into the third tier but a basic football ability would have been nice. Foxy has a video somewhere of a fantastic free-kick Wallace took.

ST: Daniel Bogdanovic. Barnsley fans were gutted when we signed him. He was shite.
ST: James Beattie. See Fabien Brandy.

Manager: "Alehouse" Micky Adams. Shades Weir for me because of the lasting damage his reign did to the club. Awful signings, alienation of our better players, the last United manager to get us relegated. A terrible legacy.

Honourable mentions (>10 apps)
Goalkeepers: Steve Simonsen (that penalty); George Long (better than many gave him credit for but the 2016 version, confidence destroyed by a combination of Neill Collins and the Kop, was pretty awful); Iain Turner (can't actually recall any performances)
Right backs: Tony McMahon (shitbag); Johannes Ertl (harsh; but post knee-knack he was terrible)
Centre backs: Nyron Nosworthy (Notworthy); David Edgar (nondescript); Cameron Carter-Vickers (unbelievable ability to take his teammates out); Paddy McCarthy (too good to train with his teammates)
Left backs: Joe Mattock
Right mids: Barry Robson (we chased him for ages and he was godawful)
Centre mids: Samir Carruthers (so much promise, so little delivered)
Left mids: David Carney (the world's neshest Australian); Martyn Woolford (the best performance he gave was his middle finger to the Kop. At least he put some effort into that)
Strikers: John Cofie (Man U paid £1,000,000 for him when he was 14!); Marcus Bent (desperation signing); Jonathan Forte; David Kitson (another with an inflated belief in long-since-departed ability); Michael Higdon (Higgopotamus); Conor Sammon (the best striker in the world when it comes to missing open goals from 4 yards)
 
Really surprised by the likes of Edgar and CCV in front of Craig Alcock and Jay McEveley BB...
 



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