CONFIRMED Will Osula joins Derby County on loan

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Champagneblade said:
He's the top scorer in the FA Cup.

Also third top Derby scorer.

Jebbo got 9 for Burton in 23 apps, 1,475 minutes.

Osula so far 5 in 14, 623 minutes.
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Osula has only scored 2 in L1 though. 3 against lower league cup opposition.
Whereas, I think all of Jebbison's came in L1.
 
Having watched him in his last two matches, he has the potential to go all the way yet miles off it at the moment as he has to learn when and how to make runs and release rage ball etc. Also needs to be more physical.
 
Both Jebbo and Osula have showed promise, with well managed teams. Both scoring goals at the old 3rd division level. Osula would do well to learn the game under Warne, with McGoldrick as his mentor.
When we arrive in the PL, he should get a season at championship level on loan.
 
Charlieblade said:
Both Jebbo and Osula have showed promise, with well managed teams. Both scoring goals at the old 3rd division level. Osula would do well to learn the game under Warne, with McGoldrick as his mentor.
When we arrive in the PL, he should get a season at championship level on loan.
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He hasn't tied down a starting spot at Derby, or scored more than a couple in the league.
He's a prospect, but I don't think he'll have a queue of teams wanting to take him at Championship level, that will also play him regularly enough to develop him.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
He hasn't tied down a starting spot at Derby, or scored more than a couple in the league.
He's a prospect, but I don't think he'll have a queue of teams wanting to take him at Championship level, that will also play him regularly enough to develop him.
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In your view he's not good enough then? I was simply extrapolating a similar trajectory for him, to the one that occured with Jebbinson! My main point was, if we do get promoted, Osula won't be ready for inclusion in the PL squad.

In fact we agree that he has potential, but he's not ready yet as a full squad member. We are only amateurs, expressing an opinion after all. ;)
 



Charlieblade said:
In your view he's not good enough then? I was simply extrapolating a similar trajectory for him, to the one that occured with Jebbinson! My main point was, if we do get promoted, Osula won't be ready for inclusion in the PL squad.

In fact we agree that he has potential, but he's not ready yet as a full squad member. We are only amateurs, expressing an opinion after all. ;)
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Osula won't be ready for PL football. Nor is he seemingly ready for Championship football, given his performances (or lack of) in League 1.

He needs to play regular football somewhere to develop. Unless that happens in the second half of this season and he does very well, then next season his level will be League 1 again - but somewhere where he's a guaranteed starter.

Jebbison could have done with a move to a Rotherham / Wigan type at the beginning of this season. He'd proven himself in League 1, as you'd trust that if he'd stayed at Burton he'd have scored 15-20 goals eventually. A very respectable tally for one so young.

For what it's worth, I think Osula is the better prospect of the two but he isn't getting the same opportunities.
 
The club will do what is best for the club. Once again we are in agreement with the prospects for both youngsters.
Whatever happens in the future, we can be assured that PH will make his feelings known, but the needs of SUFC wirll always come first. PH is well experienced with youth. That's one of the reasons his job is described as football Manager. Thei business of running the club is the responsibility of the owner.
 
There's been so many experts on here expressing their opinion about 'if a player is good enough'.

I can recall McBurnie wasn't good enough for the Championship. League 1 at best.

But the management team at the Lane led by the totally underrated Hecky are making players perform better.

I have every confidence in Hecky and co. making something of Jebbison and Osula.
 
bornablade said:
There's been so many experts on here expressing their opinion about 'if a player is good enough'.

I can recall McBurnie wasn't good enough for the Championship. League 1 at best.

But the management team at the Lane led by the totally underrated Hecky are making players perform better.

I have every confidence in Hecky and co. making something of Jebbison and Osula.
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Credit where due, they do seem to be able to get a tune out of players. The likes of Bogle, RND, Norwood, Berge, Ndiaye & McBurnie have all taken big strides under their tutelage.
He just needs to work out how to keep the squad fit now and we'll have a big opportunity.

Would love to see Brewster come good here, but I worry if he's going to be one of those that can never get going due to the injuries. They're becoming such a regular thing.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
Osula won't be ready for PL football. Nor is he seemingly ready for Championship football, given his performances (or lack of) in League 1.

He needs to play regular football somewhere to develop. Unless that happens in the second half of this season and he does very well, then next season his level will be League 1 again - but somewhere where he's a guaranteed starter.

Jebbison could have done with a move to a Rotherham / Wigan type at the beginning of this season. He'd proven himself in League 1, as you'd trust that if he'd stayed at Burton he'd have scored 15-20 goals eventually. A very respectable tally for one so young.

For what it's worth, I think Osula is the better prospect of the two but he isn't getting the same opportunities.
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So you think Jebbison is ready for championship football
Based on what 9 goals at Burton and looking out of his depth at this level admittedly with the limited opportunities he’s had
Osula has looked much more apt especially physically with the same amount of game time opportunities at this level
 
ATL Recs said:
So you think Jebbison is ready for championship football
Based on what 9 goals at Burton and looking out of his depth at this level admittedly with the limited opportunities he’s had
Osula has looked much more apt especially physically with the same amount of game time opportunities at this level
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What I said is what I meant.

Jebbison did half a season at League 1 and scored a lot of goals.
Osula hasn't been able to get himself much game time and has only scored a couple.

Logically, the next step for Jebbison is a loan move at a higher level (Championship - bottom end) where he can get enough game time to develop.
Osula hasn't earned that right, yet as he hasn't done enough at the level he's at.

They're both too raw to be much use to us at the moment. Ideally, I'd have them both playing games somewhere for the remainder of the season.
We need to pick up a CF to cover McBurnie from elsewhere, probably a loan.
 
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