Wilder Updates, Ahead of Millwall

[Revolution]

I don't know whether we have the right to stop him playing given this loan to buy stuff, but if we do, we should.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Kennedy was on loan to us from Birmingham in 1986-7.

He was back there in 1987-8 and scored the winner against us in a 1-0 defeat in April, a result which pushed us towards relegation.

He also scored against us for Blackburn when they won 2-1 at the Lane in our promotion season 2 years later.

Cheers Rev.

 

[Ricky]

Is Leonard currently permanently contracted to Millwall? Let's see if you can bring yourselves to answer that...

 

[McGrath]

Prepare yourselves.... Leonard will score a 35 yard wonder goal on Saturday, it's absolutely nailed on!

 

[S5Blade]

Prepare yourselves.... Leonard will score a 35 yard wonder goal on Saturday, it's absolutely nailed on!

Who gives a shit, we will be 3 up by then!

 

[BigBed]

Has Kean Bryan ever actually worn anything with a BLADES badge on it!!???

 

[astone_816]

Worrying about the other team and who they pick is so 2014

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Stories of ex players scoring against us are wildly exaggerated.

It very rarely happens.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Has Kean Bryan ever actually worn anything with a BLADES badge on it!!???

It's rumoured he's been seen in a nightie.....can't confirm though.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

You can be absolutely guaranteed that if we had been away at Fulham on Saturday and it had been revealed today that Norwood wasn’t allowed to play that people would be kicking off on here.

What you wouldn’t have seen are the following comments:

• “Seems fair enough. I mean yes, strictly speaking it does become a permanent deal in January and he’s in effect already their player, but Fulham are completely within their rights.”
• “So if something happens to Norwood between now and January, we can’t get out of the deal. Yet we’ve agreed to a deal where they can still prevent him playing against them? I’m disappointed, but fully respect that.”
• “We were never really in a good position to insist on being allowed to play him, so we can’t really criticise the owners.”
• “Totally understand Fulham insisting on this. I mean can you imagine if we hadn’t have done that with the Leonard deal?”

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

It's rumoured he's been seen in a nightie.....can't confirm though.

Their lass’s??

 

[itsinyerblood]

Their lass’s??

Can't confirm just how choosey he is.

 

[sitwell]

You can be absolutely guaranteed that if we had been away at Fulham on Saturday and it had been revealed today that Norwood wasn’t allowed to play that people would be kicking off on here.

What you wouldn’t have seen are the following comments:

• “Seems fair enough. I mean yes, strictly speaking it does become a permanent deal in January and he’s in effect already their player, but Fulham are completely within their rights.”
• “So if something happens to Norwood between now and January, we can’t get out of the deal. Yet we’ve agreed to a deal where they can still prevent him playing against them? I’m disappointed, but fully respect that.”
• “We were never really in a good position to insist on being allowed to play him, so we can’t really criticise the owners.”
• “Totally understand Fulham insisting on this. I mean can you imagine if we hadn’t have done that with the Leonard deal?”

Especially as he belongs to Brighton

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Especially as he belongs to Brighton

Not the first time I’ve made that mistake either

Still, you know what I mean!

 

[Champagneblade]

Loan. To. Buy.

Loan. To. Buy.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Oh dear here comes another Steve Wigley / Peter Withe event

 

[Revolution]

Wilder played in the Peter Withe game.

He should know better.

 

[Rodders]

Wilder played in the Peter Withe game.

He should know better.

I get the theory of what you're saying but if Leonard hadn't had that 6 months with us (of being kept out the side by John Lundstram) and went straight Southend > Millwall, would he have even registered?

 

[Nedski]

Leonard has a good record of scoring from outside the box. We have a poor record of leaving space outside of the box and allowing worldies to be smashed in to the top corner. I'd rather Leonard wasn't playing tbh.

 

[Revolution]

I get the theory of what you're saying but if Leonard hadn't had that 6 months with us (of being kept out the side by John Lundstram) and went straight Southend > Millwall, would he have even registered?

That's not the point.

The point is that if we have the power to say that a player can't play against us, we should use that power every time. The identity of the player is irrelevant.

 

[bromtom]

Really, United's luck renders this irrelevant.

Leonard can play, has a blinder.

Leonard can't play, the guy who wouldn't normally have played is the next Coutinho or something and has a blinder.

I'm more concerned about United.

 

[Sheffsteel]

I find it unbelievable that we’re allowing him to play, what’s the point in making your opponents stronger? I was also sure that loan players couldn’t play against parent teams any more.

Agree he’s technically a loan player like Norwood is.

However in reality he’s their player.
Using the loan system was the only way to push through the transfer.
If it was the other way round Wilder would be steaming mad.
So I don’t blame him sticking to his principles and refusing to use a technicality (immoral gamesmanship) to gain an advantage.

Wilder is doing the right thing.....he’s their player...so why should we be fearful and try to weaken them.

 

[Blade58]

Utter fucking stupidity.

We've just thrown away a key advantage. And for what? If he's technically on loan, then surely we can prevent him playing?

Probably think Millwall have done us a favour paying £1.5m or something don't we?

Playing them without Saville or Saville's replacement would have put us in a considerably stronger position.

Regards favours, we'll only know after the game

I'm hoping Lenners gifts us a goal

Also wasn't the deal dependent upon him being allowed to play? I thought Millwall stipulated it?

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

I was at the Peter Withe game, can still see him scoring to this day, I was furious to say the least.

 

[Addison]

CW confirms it was part of the deal for him to play against us. Written permission clause covered. Not sure any other loan to buy has this arrangement though may come back to bite us.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

It's Ryan Leonard playing against us not Ryan Giggs.

 

[spongebobblade]

CW confirms it was part of the deal for him to play against us. Written permission clause covered. Not sure any other loan to buy has this arrangement though may come back to bite us.

Millwall insisted on it as Utd refused to budge on the 1.4m transfer fee. Shame that the first time we give a ‘take it or leave it’ ultimatum on the transfer fee nobody praises the club

 

[Th!stledo]

CW confirms it was part of the deal for him to play against us. Written permission clause covered. Not sure any other loan to buy has this arrangement though may come back to bite us.

Contracts, be it even loan contracts, are drawn up between two or more parties. Conditions negotiated and the price are all down to what they agree upon. For me the critical point is that each side has made the eventual full signing water-tight, without any back-doors to go back on the deal.

 

[Silent Blade]

Oh dear here comes another Steve Wigley / Peter Withe event

You mean Roger Hansbury/Peter Withe

 

[Ned the Donkey]

Fuck me. Are we shitting ourselves about Ryan fucking Leonard? Nothing against him. Seems like a nice chap. But Jesus.