Wilder needs a rest

[Bashamed]

He's constantly fidgeting, he's grinding his jaw to oblivion, he's bursting into sing song... we've not had to pick up on any of this in the last 4 years because he's never behaved like this before (well, except when under the influence of a Peroni or two).

I'm not criticising the bloke, I am genuinely worried for him and given the situation in the league there doesn't appear to be a downside to giving him a week or two off right now. And then hopefully he comes back feeling better and fresh in time to get us ready for the FA Cup quarter final.

Give him a week or two off now? What on earth does that mean? Its not football manager you can't just click go on holiday for a few games when you're fed up. He's acting the same as always to me. The singing to me shows he's not lost his sense of humour and still has some perspective. Think you're reading way too much into it. He's hurting massively so going to be a few tetchy moments.

 

[MobileBlade]

Oh no ,not fidgeting

I am currently dealing with a grievance by an employee about their manager. It says "I wish to put in a formal grievance. As I walked past XXXX, they looked at me funny."

 

[FriethBlade]

Too right he needs a holiday...we all f in do and hopefully I will be in Croatia with the family this summer.

Given how we are all feeling it has to be magnified 20 fold for CW and AK. Hopefully they will get plenty of time for a break come May and come back fighting fit for a promotion push next season.

He is desperate to have a plan in place to bounce back next season. Based on this year the 2 clubs who come down with us will be in at least as good, if not a better, position to go straight back up plus there's all the other sides down there who finish in and just outside the play offs .

Whether hes going the right way about pressing the board is up for debate and I know some see this as a way of forcing their hand one way or the other. However I think he really wants what's best for the club and hope his judgement is soundly based as to the best way of achieving this.

 

[FMBlade1]

I suggested a month ago that he could be put on gardening leave until the summer and see if he wants to return to first team duties then, with JVW taking over until then.

People are so entrenched about their opinion, no-one is going to change their mind on press conferences.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

 

[The Crab]

Every time I click on Blades Chat lately...................

 

[Bashamed]

People are so entrenched about their opinion, no-one is going to change their mind on press conferences

This isn't a dig at you because you're probably right but it's very depressing that we now have a section who are entrenched in their view that Wilder needs to leave. And when I say depressing I mean embarrassing and shameful.

 

[FMBlade1]

This isn't a dig at you because you're probably right but it's very depressing that we now have a section who are entrenched in their view that Wilder needs to leave. And when I say depressing I mean embarrassing and shameful.

Yes it is a general thing. I have tried to be nuanced on here though if you are you are accused of flip-flopping. I want Wilder to say, but I also want him to change his approach and adapt.

People have the right to want Wilder to leave, there are good reasons to suggest it, I happen to disagree with them though I think their views should be respected.

 

[Robboblade1889]

He's constantly fidgeting, he's grinding his jaw to oblivion, he's bursting into sing song... we've not had to pick up on any of this in the last 4 years because he's never behaved like this before (well, except when under the influence of a Peroni or two).

I'm not criticising the bloke, I am genuinely worried for him and given the situation in the league there doesn't appear to be a downside to giving him a week or two off right now. And then hopefully he comes back feeling better and fresh in time to get us ready for the FA Cup quarter final.

Is this serious he’s fidgeting and grinding his jaw! Fuck me what a shocker no wonder the sky interviewer was in shock.

 

[Jimmy Fleck]

Chris is a big boy I’m sure he doesn’t care about what some of you thick twats are saying on this forum.

 

[BettingBlade]

This isn't a dig at you because you're probably right but it's very depressing that we now have a section who are entrenched in their view that Wilder needs to leave. And when I say depressing I mean embarrassing and shameful.

I think it’s a smaller percentage than you perceive that actually want Wilder to leave. There’s certainly a growing section that are becoming more critical and are starting to question him but I think most, myself included, can see the bigger picture and the positives of keeping him around.

I think being bottom of the league losing 21 out of 26 league games definitely gives validation for people to question our approach this season. At the end of the day, it would be pointless in the forum existing if we all had to just shut up and praise the club no matter what.

People are always entrenched in their opinions about everything, I think it’s just a society thing now brought on by social media. I think it works both ways, there’s posters on here who seem to be offended when any blame for anything lies at Wilder’s door. He’s clearly made mistakes this season but who hasn’t at the club? Pointing those mistakes out doesn’t correlate with wanting him out.

 

[BettingBlade]

Is this serious he’s fidgeting and grinding his jaw! Fuck me what a shocker no wonder the sky interviewer was in shock.

Yeah but what if we didn’t see him snorting that big fat line off the desk before the feed went live?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I have tried to be nuanced

 

[FMBlade1]

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That's such a great film.

And here you go:

Well done Wilder

Even if we lose from here on. Realized it wasn't working with Fleck and boldly took him off for Burke after 30 minutes changing our system. Then cleverly bringing on Bogle again removing our record signing amending how we play especially as being down to 10. First 30 minutes was a disgrace...

www.s24su.com

 

[Bashamed]

I think it’s a smaller percentage than you perceive that actually want Wilder to leave. There’s certainly a growing section that are becoming more critical and are starting to question him but I think most, myself included, can see the bigger picture and the positives of keeping him around.

I think being bottom of the league losing 21 out of 26 league games definitely gives validation for people to question our approach this season. At the end of the day, it would be pointless in the forum existing if we all had to just shut up and praise the club no matter what.

People are always entrenched in their opinions about everything, I think it’s just a society thing now brought on by social media. I think it works both ways, there’s posters on here who seem to be offended when any blame for anything lies at Wilder’s door. He’s clearly made mistakes this season but who hasn’t at the club? Pointing those mistakes out doesn’t correlate with wanting him out.

I hope you're right. And yes criticism is valid and deserved. Maybe I'm just going through a phase but its the now constant threads on him that slate everything he does is starting to feel like a lot of people now can't wait to slag him off and think he deserves to be sacked. I think sacking him would be a terrible mistake.

 

[Robboblade1889]

There is certainty an argument for wanting him sacked I totally disagree with it but get it. What I have an issue is stuff like this, basically fabricated things to try and prove a point. The myth that he doesn’t accept responsibility, in this particular interview he says he talked responsibility in the first 3 mins. Then there is the rewriting of history and dumbing down his achievements

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

That's such a great film.

And here you go:

Well done Wilder

Even if we lose from here on. Realized it wasn't working with Fleck and boldly took him off for Burke after 30 minutes changing our system. Then cleverly bringing on Bogle again removing our record signing amending how we play especially as being down to 10. First 30 minutes was a disgrace...

www.s24su.com

Not sure about your offline personality, but one thing you most certainly aren't nor have ever been on here, is nuanced.

 

[FMBlade1]

Not sure about your offline personality, but one thing you most certainly aren't nor have ever been on here, is nuanced.

When things go well I praise. When things aren't going well I say so.

Sadly for quite a while in many aspects things have not gone well.

It's not complicated.

 

[mattbianco1]

Nobody questioned his interview techniques until this season.

 

[Nade]

I’m going to listen to it again intently, I expect it will be difficult to miss given that the sky interviewer was lost for words at what he said.

Let us know if you find anything. I listened to it too and don't know what people are referring to.

 

[cc1]

Full Villa pre-match conference

My word, this is a terribly unprofessional conference from Chris. He's clearly on something. The Sky journo was completely lost for words.

If that had come from Warnock or Clough we'd be up in arms. He can bang on all he wants about the club sticking to the plan, but we can never aspire to be a Premier League club with a manager behaving like this on camera. It's shocking.

Poor Chris is suffering, more than any of us and understandably so. I wonder if a break away from the club would do him the world of good right now. For his sake and the club's. Cos at this rate he's in danger of scorching the earth beneath Bramall Lane and permanently damaging the relationship between all concerned.

He's clearly on something? You want to retract that?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

When things go well I praise. When things aren't going well I say so.

Sadly for quite a while in many aspects things have not gone well.

It's not complicated.

It's not, but that's nothing to do with having, or as I see you, totally lacking in nuance.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Nobody questioned his interview techniques until this season.

Ahhhh but we now have psychologists body language experts translators on this board now who have a much better idea than us mere mortals on the inner goings on of a manager through his interview. I wish we had these people before we could have saved the heartache of this season sacked Wilder after the millwall away game and still been having a laugh in league one with a cardboard cut out manager who’s interview technique is finely tuned.

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

People are really, really overreacting to this press conference.

 

[Holmfirth Blade 1977]

And who exactly do you think or are wanting in charge?

Do you remember Brian Robson last time we went down! We need continuity and someone who actually wants to manage the club, my worst fear was CW walking this year and someone like Sam Allerdyce coming in, we have a tight nit group that we need to keep and get them on form again.

I don't get to many games because I am still involved with a Saturday league team but I would hate to see the effects of a foreign manager and a load of foreign mercenaries' in the team. Just have a look at Wednesday, if we are not careful that could be us......

 

[bongleblade]

Chris Wilder:“i know which way i would take the football club”

Chris Wilder: plays 5-3-2 again this week

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Wish he’d big us up as much as he does Aston Villa and the like.

I’m beginning to think that constantly banging on about us being the poor relations and lucky to be on the same pitch as most of the premier League has got into the players heads and they’ve started to believe it.

It’d be nice just for once for him to sing he praises of his own club, instead of constantly talking it down.

 

[mattbianco1]

After the 3-0 defeat to Southend -


Walsall away (last defeat of 2016/17) -


Then there was the one after the pigs when he was talking about players on 40 grand a week.

When we're not doing well, he's downbeat and will criticsie where it needs criticising.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Right let’s cut the bullshit about this interview now following numerous threads and comments on. I have just watched it again and there is nothing in it whatsoever to call the manager what the OP has called him. It’s the same interview he has done for 5 years of being at the club. Nothing he says is that controversial and the forensic analysis of it is embarrassing.
If people want him out then fair enough but don’t use shit that doesn’t exist it’s pathetic. Plant your flag and say you want him out because of football reasons, I can’t believe supposed Blades fans are stopping this low to try and character assassinate the best manager we have ever had without and basis whatsoever. The OP should take back his original post because it’s not just an opinion it’s fabricated bullshit. Fucking fidgeting I’ve heard it all now!

 

[Robboblade1889]

After the 3-0 defeat to Southend -


Walsall away (last defeat of 2016/17) -


Then there was the one after the pigs when he was talking about players on 40 grand a week.

When we're not doing well, he's downbeat and will criticsie where it needs criticising.

I cannot believe you are actually having to do this to prove a point Matt. These people writing this shit know all of this but darent just come out and say I want him gone so are trying to find something else to use other than what’s happening on the pitch. Quite frankly they should be ashamed of themselves, regardless of if you believe he should go or not. Chris Wilder deserved more respect than this and I can believe what some of our fan base are trying to do.