Wilder interview

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Think he had arse on to be honest not going to give away anything if there was.
He definitely had the arse on alright hope he let the players have it after that no show ,they let us and him down badly.
The attitude of the team first half was dire
I'm sure privately he and Knill will be most alarmed, the lack of desire was criminal and for me the goals all came down to that.
Right from the kick off there was a lack of
aggression in our play which is a worry as without that no team no matter how good will be successful ..
Wilder will know he has a problem getting on his back will not help at all,let's see how he tackles it ,he has limited time and money to put it right ,his biggest test yet fingers crossed he has the ability to win through.
 



"We had one target and there's nobody else out there that we feel improves us on a permanent"


What a total fucking shambles. Inexcusable. Unbelievable. Amateurish.

How we've once again found a way not to spend money is remarkable.

Same old, same old.

Chris - We've just lost both our opening games and we're relying on an ageing strikeforce. Who have you got for me Mitch?
Paul Mitchell - I got nothing boss. There's absolutely nobody out there we could bring in who could improve on 0 goals scored from attack, in the second tier.
Chris - Good work Mitch, we'll go with that! See you again in January.

Can't see it, can you? Either this is an elaborate bluff because he just couldn't be bothered to field the usual guesswork questioning or he thinks he has a chance of getting a better quality of player through loans.
 
All I would say is, if we went down, who would we choose/trust to get us back up? Probably Wilder. Having spent a good part of my adult life involved with Football, I have seen the weirdness of the managers lot. I never went overboard with praise for CW nor will I go overboard now. Pre-season just had a look of 'slow start' to the season, about it. Can't explain why, just did. Last night was bad, yes but I'm waiting for 10 -15 games before I start worrying.
 
Wilder gave the line up from Saturday the chance to redeem itself. It didn’t. He will now change it this weekend. I’m sure he will do.

As for the transfers - our fantastic board strikes yet again.
 
Our fans expect us to beat the likes of Swansea and Middlesbrough, and I’m afraid it’s not going to be that easy.

Neither should it be that hard. Very early days and both Swansea and Middlesbrough are riding high. Is it because they're so good? Or because they've played us? Let's see where both of these end up - but I doubt very much it'll be in the autos. Going into the next game, QPR have the same points as us - 0. I'll bet that's changed by FT.

At least the debate about Duffy - 'should he start or come on later as an impact sub?' - can be put to bed. Our defence has been so totally 'rabbits in headlights' in the first two games, that the later introduction of an 'impact sub' would be like bolting the stable door. But if we're seriously pinning our hopes on a player with only an hour in the tank, it's going to be a long winter.

I know I'm not on my own but - at 0-3 after 25 minutes last night - I feared an embarassing, humiliating rout. Thankfully, 'boro eased up and we still barely raised a glove to them. Reasons the be cheerful? Less than 2 years ago (Aug. 16, 2016) we were 0-3 down (after 15 minutes!) to Southend at home. But that season didn't end up too bad.

Pre-season just had a look of 'slow start' to the season, about it. Can't explain why, just did. Last night was bad, yes but I'm waiting for 10 -15 games before I start worrying.

Because - apart from Inter - what can United possibly pick up (apart from injuries) against the likes of Mansfield and Donny? You're hardly going to 'hit the ground running'.
 
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My biggest concern was that Swansea and Boro were nowt special..we have been beaten by pace on Saturday and physicality at set pieces last night.

Play like that when we come up against the stronger sides, (Derby, Stoke, West Bromwich, Forest) and we will be on the end of some proper tonkings.
 
The ones in a court dispute over ownership..... so affects transfers in which cost money they might lose if lose court battle ? All I have to say is one joint owner attends all matches..

I think you missed the point I was making.

And money has been available for transfers (£4m for a defender...). It’s not championship winning (or even top 10!) finance but money there. It is ultimately how it is spent that makes the difference.
 
The fee & the personal terms have to be thereabouts if any hope of signing top class Champ/ lower Prem team players.
It's not rocket science is it. Do you expect Stoke to be as good as Man U or Man City ? We Blades have to have realism or we will implode !

I expect a manager to be able to sign a player for 4/5 million. Not chase after a small group of players who we all know will not move to us for the money we are prepared to pay them.
 
Who says Duffy cannot play 90 minute's, he never gets the chance,I dont see him blowing out of his arse and looking knackered , has this been said officially or are folk saying it because of his age or picking up on what someone else has said and trying to sound intelligent , also as disappointing as the line up at kick off was if coutts,Duffy and fleck had played we would probably have still been 3-0 down, I agree we lacked a lot of drive but ffs how awful was our defence at dealing with set pieces and long punts into the box,I have only seen it on Sky and there were no replays so I dont know who individually was to blame, and finally, Wilder out, really? I accept it's all about opinions but ffs keep your stupid opinions to yourself I bet if we win the next two these same prats will be singing his praises, I sometimes wish the Internet hadn't been invented then the only people you argued with were the ones who actually went to matches.
 
Correct Magic. Short memories some have. Wilder said it how it was. We did have the best chances and they weren’t taken! I’ve only one gripe and that is Duffy should be on from the off. Far better than either Lundstram and Evans. Very Impressed with Woodburn. His contribution was first class when he came on. UTB
 
Chris - We've just lost both our opening games and we're relying on an ageing strikeforce. Who have you got for me Mitch?
Paul Mitchell - I got nothing boss. There's absolutely nobody out there we could bring in who could improve on 0 goals scored from attack, in the second tier.
Chris - Good work Mitch, we'll go with that! See you again in January.

Can't see it, can you? Either this is an elaborate bluff because he just couldn't be bothered to field the usual guesswork questioning or he thinks he has a chance of getting a better quality of player through loans.

Nail on the head with that post!

I just can not believe there is no one out there that would add something to strike force, even if it’s a bit of a punt like Wilder said.

We must have known that Waghorn was unlikely to come at least a week ago? So surely we’ve been looking at cheaper alternatives?

We’ve got to at least sign a loan striker, we can’t go half a season with three 30+ strikers with the youngest of the three being injury prone in recent years.
 
The worrying part is that “we had the best chances”. I’m inclined to agree, but I don’t think it’s worth mentioning after that wank performance.

I hope he isn’t thinking that if we sort out the set piece defending and take the chances everything is hunky dory.


He can say 'best chances' but we've nowt up front to score them.

That's the problem, pace hurts and we've none.
 



He did make a relevant point in that interview for me regards a comparison to where we were last year. After 3 games we had 3 points - win on Saturday and it’s been a bang average start as it was last last season. Casting your mind back we were actually lucky to have 3 given we were pretty fortunate to beat Brentford, got tanked at Cardiff and narrowly beat at Boro (although they dominated) if I remember correctly? Also mustered just the one goal among those too.

It’s really not all doom and gloom if we can pick something up Saturday at QPR - although we need to shake things up a bit, particularly formation and personnel wise. Hoping we see Duffy, Woodburn, Leonard, Stearman and Sharp all involved.
 
Well, if you are 3-0 down and want to get something out of the game I would say there might be some use in having a few chances. Otherwise, how else do you get back in the game?


Agreed mate …… but like on Saturday ……. we MISSED our chances ……. same problem as last season ……. but not rectified o_O

Oh yes ….. and another thing …… can we show the video to our wing-backs so they can see how you cross a ball into the box :rolleyes:

UTB & FTP
 
Once the players cross that white line and don't do what they have been coached / .told to do then it is entirely down to individuals Wilder knows who botled and will sort it out
Like he did after Saturday's display you mean.......
 
No permanent transfer in possibly no loans in eh. The other day we had bids in for 4 now it was only ever one bid for a player and nothing out there than we can afford that would improve us ..................... really ....... really Chris ? All our strikers the wrong side of 30 slow as fuck and we can't find anyone who might improve us ........... phuck me you can see the direction we are heading.
 
I would take Wilder’s permanent deal comment with a pinch of salt. He might be right that at the minute nothing looks like happening, but there will be some deals that will still happen that might switch a previously-unavailable player into one that could be attainable. From recollection of the Bleacher Report piece for example, Donaldson’s availability only became apparent early into deadline day.
 
CW ought to be over at S6 this morning they are desperate to offload a few, any of their strikers would improve us.
 
What a load of bollocks this post is. Wake up & smell the coffee ....Chris never said he could walk on water for God's sake.

But people all him god, last two seasons he could do no wrong, he was found out during the second half of least season and we've not changed at all. I have a feeling it'll all end in tears, with or without CW.
 
Chris has to be mindful of his employers. Yes he won us promotion & yes he overachieved last season. So give the guy a break this season & don't make it worse by nasty comments. If you make nasty comments you are a pig !

If CW continues this losing streak then do you think the owners will "give him a break"? How big of a break do you want to give him before it's too late?
 
By the way, this shambolic recruitment failure has nothing to do with the board.

It's all on Wilder. His parochial narrow minded approach to foreign scouting, persistence with unrealistic targets and self imposed precious wage structure are to blame.
 
After listening to his post match interview. I get the impression that he’s been told to stick with what he’s got!!. I maybe wrong and i hope I am?.
Normally I feel better after listening to wilder but I’m now getting the feeling that we could be in deep shit by Xmas unless the lads learn how to do their respective jobs on the pitch?. They don’t seem capable at the moment!!.
Let’s see what Saturday brings!!. UTB
 
It's only been 3 windows, but we've had Waghorn, Hogan and Coady. Three players who were probably ALREADY on wages we weren't able to equal, nevermind improve on.

Yeah I have to be honest, I do wonder what our approach is to these. We must know the kind of money they're on and have an idea what they will want.

Surely we don't expect players and their agents to take a slightly bigger signing on fee and performance based money when they know they can get guaranteed money elsewhere.
 
We have not been pretty rubbish since Coutts was injured.

In the immediate aftermath of that injury, when you would expect some disruption, we lost 4 out of 5 games. One of those was 4-5 to Fulham, in which we played pretty well against a very good Fulham side, and d another was the 1-2 defeat to Bristol City where we again played very well.

After those 5 games we won 8, drew 8, lost 8. That is not rubbish. It is mid table or mediocre and we did not play rubbish in most of those 24 games.


I think it is not unreasonable to ask questions when matches go wrong, but to call someone deluded (a pretty offensive term) after two games is in my opinion a little unreasonable, especially given his very recent record.

The delusion comment is based upon the fact that since January CW has repeatedly said in RS interviews 'that we have not been found out'. The evidence proves to the contrary. Secondly after a pretty inept performance against Swansea he picks the same team that did so badly against them to play Middlesborough. Again in the RS he is totally happy with that when just about all the fans on here question it. He is therefore in my mind deluding himself into thinking there is no problem, when the facts suggest otherwise. Non SUFC pundits also say this.

I like the guy. I just want him to wake up smell the coffee and get real and not drift as he appears to be doing right now into some Clough/Adkinsesque type stupour with soundbites that there is nothing wrong other than individual mistakes, when there clearly is. There are individual errors too but yesterday was awful in the first half.

We are at our best laying into teams. What he needs to do is continue to do that but sort his 3/5 at the back out and overlappers because starting with Fulham the data suggests teams have now sussed that out and CW needs to find a system to overcome it. DB did it with L1/L2 players and didn't CW have a better win record (now disappearing fast).

If he continues like this he'll take us back down again. SUFC have an awful record of when we start badly clogging around in the bottom 5 or 6 by November we hardly recover. The only times we did it that I recall was under DB (the great escape season) and when NW took over from Adrian Heath. You could argue that NC did that also after the DW debacle though thankfully it hadn't gone too far (but far enough). If we did get that bad maybe only Big Sam would get us out! :eek:

Hopefully CW has seen what Duffy and Woodburn can do and will start with them on Saturday. But if Duffy can't last 90 mins not sure who replaces him. Maybe he just shuts up shop hoping we are 3-0 up by then!

If CW can re-adapt quick like he did in his first season we can quickly get back to normality but at the moment he does not give the impression that he can or either is going to do that. He now has to get the team to deliver 50 odd points in 44 games.
 
Looks like he was lying yet again in his interview because apparently we're signing Lee Gregory.

Sell Brooks. Sign Gregory. You couldn't make it up. That's as laughable as it gets.


 
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By the way, this shambolic recruitment failure has nothing to do with the board.

It's all on Wilder. His parochial narrow minded approach to foreign scouting, persistence with unrealistic targets and self imposed precious wage structure are to blame.

I'd watch that, you're starting to sound all Funny Little Nigel-y again.

And before anyone asks, blame to the board and blame to the management team are not mutually exclusive, they're both equally possible and noone is immune from criticism.

Rest assured, Wilder is the best thing that has happened to this club for many, many years. This does not mean he's above criticism and he's got a lot of work to do, but we also need to recognise how far we've come and not lose sight of that.

Impatience grows when people see seemingly good opportunities passing us by though, and I understand that (Bradshaw, Blackman and others going elsewhere etc).
 

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