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I'm not for sacking him. I don't see the point. I think he will keep us up, especially if given the JTW to get something a bit closer to the squad he wants. There are some ok signs in terms of our attacking intent.

Having said that, if we don't win either of the next two it is going to get very toxic indeed. And I am a bit sick of this "he couldn't possibly do any better with these players." This squad is not worse than Oxford, Portsmouth, Blackburn, QPR and others. Our poor form under Wilder is not new--we have been poor since Christmas. Long term we need to go in a different direction.
 

If I’m buying a Chris Wilder themed mug I’m going for the one where he has tits.

 
Can people stop talking about the January transfer window as if everything will be fine from then? Yes you as well CW!

We could likely be even further adrift by then. We won’t do any business until late in the window. And what decent player will come to a side in the bottom 3?!
 
We were shit last season with Wilder's boys, we're shit this season with a different team. There's only one constant here. He has overall accountability for our results (but obviously doesn't take ANY accountability whatsoever).

He needs to go, and this time he simply can't come back. He's now failed consistently since the 2020/21 season. He's a multimillionaire and needs to retire to spend the rest of his days in a pub without embarrassing the club further.
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Tactically inept? Changed it since he came in, changed it tonight against top of the league. Previously changed a system that took us from league one to premier league. But yeah, tactically inept
Exactly- WTF are people on about ?

With this fkn lot to manage / Jesus , I think I’d have them all on the goal line
 
I'm not for sacking him. I don't see the point. I think he will keep us up, especially if given the JTW to get something a bit closer to the squad he wants. There are some ok signs in terms of our attacking intent.
Agree with your post, but this starts the Wilder loop again. Next manager will have Wilder's players, struggle while changing things, get sacked, Wilder re-build. Rinse and repeat.
 
Was Campbell on his own up front?

Disagree with you there.
Sometimes defeat can definitely be due to poor formation/tactics/in game decisions etc. from the manager and Wilder has been guilty of all 3 at times this season.
Tonight's defeat however was not down to Wilder.
Team were set up more positively and obviously told to take more risks with possession regarding forward passes and commiting players forward.
At 1-0 up we stayed positive and didn't try to sit on the lead. All subs made (except for keeper sub due to injury) were positive.
At times this year we've looked clueless with the ball but tonight there were noticeable effective patterns of play. eg. Early balls into channels for Campbell with quick support runs. Overlapping runs from Seriki off Brookes. O'Hare's linking runs between midfield and attack right across the pitch etc etc.

I'm neither a Wilder-lover nor a Wilder-hater but I am a Blade and I was encouraged by a lot of what I saw tonight.
Still lots of improvement needed obviously.
Im not a wilder hater, im just frustrated, a bad loser and fed up of the shitshow of a season, too many similarities to last season in the prem and its making me fed up of football already. When I was looking forward to new season 😂.

Anyway line drawn, ive slept on it. We was a bit better going forward than in previous games but still not clinical enough & defensively we are so fragile and shit, seems a lot of individual errors costing us, more than you should have in a professional team.
 
If I’m buying a Chris Wilder themed mug I’m going for the one where he has tits.

Nice. I might buy a pair..
 
CW lives in the past
Sunday league language in a modern age
Can't get a team fit - see all last season.
Desperate to hang on to what he sees as 'his' job.

There are reasons no one else wants him and why Knilly plays at international level. I'd be interested to see how he would be without Alan.

But it's time 'one of our own' (proving to be a good cover story) remembered that he's a 'puntah' too and get his a*se over to those fans who commit everything to follow home and away, even when we lose.

I can cope with incompetent management, fronting for a failing business, desperation to lead 'the football club' but repeatedly avoiding difficult moments is cowardice.

He'll be front and centre if we win though, maybe push a few players about, thump the badge?

There will be a time when the best thing he can do for OUR club is to quit and the clock is ticking right now.

We can't go on forever crossing fingers that he'll eventually get back to the 2016 version and tie ourselves into that desperation and dwindling hope. This is reality not dreamland.

Time waits for no one, not even SUFC.
 
Who would you have preferred, before Wilder was sacked in summer?
Where do you want me to start ? It’s a cop out move . Lazy and shows lack of thoroughness , understanding of the game and football based intelligent management. Basically a name like Warnock . There’s some excellent upcoming manager talent out there both here and abroad rouble is we have corner shop leadership
 

He just doesn't help himself with his decisions and tactics.

Everyone can see Mcguinness has been way off what we need. I'd rather see Tanganga move inside and then Seriki/Binden/Mcallum come in at right back.

We persisted with 1 up front, despite not having the players to play this way - you need a big mobile center forward and dynamic quality wide players to do this. We looked most dangerous yesterday with 2 up there - but I bet we go back to 1 up front on Saturday.

Peck in the deep role just adds nothing to the team except sideways passes. He was playing more advanced yesterday and this suited his game so much more.
 
A total lack of understanding is evident in what you state.

This mess is not Wilders. He has Donnay golf clubs to compete where other managers have Pings.

Jan can not come soon enough.

Trouble I can see is that funds will have to be generated so Gus is toast. There will be others !!

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I am not misunderstanding anything. He is the manager, he has to do better. The lad up the road has been dealt a much worse hand than Wilder and if it wasn’t for the points deduction we would be looking over our shoulders. A good manager gets the most out of players. Wilder mark 1 did it. This version is not the same coach, whatever motivational skills and coaching skills are just not evident.
Happy to be proven wrong in January when he gets all his targets (and plays them rather than doing his usual of benching them like he did with the likes of Holding) and we stride up the league.
 
Sound but you know you’ll give it them back
I’m not much of a gambler at all. Had a fiver on Preston at HT and won £40. Did the same last night and won £20. But yeh I’m usually the guy saying exactly what you said to others so you’re probably right.
 
You didn't watch the game then.
1st half was very good against a team that will go up this season. 2nd half was the polar opposite. I know Cov would come out stronger, but the mentallity of the players must be shot - some are simply not mentally or skillfully good enough. Time for changes in Jan and let's see if CW can get some solid players in.

We miss Souza. I think that is the main reason that we're doing so poorly right now.
 
CW lives in the past
Sunday league language in a modern age
Can't get a team fit - see all last season.
Desperate to hang on to what he sees as 'his' job.

There are reasons no one else wants him and why Knilly plays at international level. I'd be interested to see how he would be without Alan.

But it's time 'one of our own' (proving to be a good cover story) remembered that he's a 'puntah' too and get his a*se over to those fans who commit everything to follow home and away, even when we lose.

I can cope with incompetent management, fronting for a failing business, desperation to lead 'the football club' but repeatedly avoiding difficult moments is cowardice.

He'll be front and centre if we win though, maybe push a few players about, thump the badge?

There will be a time when the best thing he can do for OUR club is to quit and the clock is ticking right now.

We can't go on forever crossing fingers that he'll eventually get back to the 2016 version and tie ourselves into that desperation and dwindling hope. This is reality not dreamland.

Time waits for no one, not even SUFC.
Yeah..he couldn't get down that tunnel fast enough again..show some fuckin humility..shake opponents hands..fuckin mardy arse.
 
Can people stop talking about the January transfer window as if everything will be fine from then? Yes you as well CW!

We could likely be even further adrift by then. We won’t do any business until late in the window. And what decent player will come to a side in the bottom 3?!
The funniest thing about this argument is that his last few windows have been absolutely appalling.

We’re relying on the manager that bombed out Seriki and Gilchrist to bring in Clarke and end up playing Choudhary at right back to save our season.

We lost Ahmedhodzic, Souza and Moore and replaced them with inferior players but the bulk of the squad that played last night is Wilders.
 
Absolutely not, good comments. However, as mentioned previously, Tanganga started in the PL as a RB. Soumare clearly has talent, but his positional sense ATM, could be questioned. Playing away at top of the league might not have been the best decision today. Queue the "thanks Chris" comments
Phil Jagielka started as a CM, moved to RB but by his mid-20s (same age as Tanganga) was firmly a centre back. Same goes for Tanganga.
Tanganga played RB sometimes for Spurs but was always a central defender playing out of position. Sol Campbell started out playing left back for them but it was never his best position.
GG sums it up perfectly here.

I said it elsewhere: playing Tanganga over Seriki at right back weakens two positions. McGuinness is an absolute bombscare but he's playing because our best right sided centre half is being asked to fill in at right back.

The funniest thing about this argument is that his last few windows have been absolutely appalling.

We’re relying on the manager that bombed out Seriki and Gilchrist to bring in Clarke and end up playing Choudhary at right back to save our season.

We lost Ahmedhodzic, Souza and Moore and replaced them with inferior players but the bulk of the squad that played last night is Wilders.

Ahmedhodzic and Souza were leaving as soon as the full-time whistle blew at Wembley. That was obvious. As has been evident throughout this season there's absolutely no strategic planning at any level of this football club because any competent rectruitment team would have brought in the replacements before those two departed.

Getting £2m+ for Moore was outstanding business. Replacing him with the ghost of Danny Ings on the same elevated wages a month later was not.
 
Moore has scored 7 in 13 this season, I'd pay £2m for 7 goals full stop at the moment. Can only be good business if you replace him.
 

Phil Jagielka started as a CM, moved to RB but by his mid-20s (same age as Tanganga) was firmly a centre back. Same goes for Tanganga.

GG sums it up perfectly here.

I said it elsewhere: playing Tanganga over Seriki at right back weakens two positions. McGuinness is an absolute bombscare but he's playing because our best right sided centre half is being asked to fill in at right back.



Ahmedhodzic and Souza were leaving as soon as the full-time whistle blew at Wembley. That was obvious. As has been evident throughout this season there's absolutely no strategic planning at any level of this football club because any competent rectruitment team would have brought in the replacements before those two departed.

Getting £2m+ for Moore was outstanding business. Replacing him with the ghost of Danny Ings on the same elevated wages a month later was not.
Getting 2m for Moore is only outstanding business if you replace him. Our lack of progressive planning is scary. Bettis openly stated "we knew Anel and Souza would go in the summer"... if that's the case then why did it take us about 4 weeks to get a replacement? Anyone with half a brain cell would draw up a big shortlist of targets and work down that list ready for green light.
 

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