Wilder has changed nothing......

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Nick Jansky said:
Both born & bred in England.
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Not good (foreign) enough then.

My great, great, grandfather signed the first black professional footballer for United.

Wharton played in goal at a time when keepers could handle the ball anywhere in their half of the field and faced dangerous tackles from opposition players. He was an entertaining figure between the sticks, according to one fan who wrote in the Sheffield Telegraph: “I saw Wharton jump, take hold of the cross bar, catch the ball between his legs and cause three onrushing forwards to fall into the net. I have never seen a similar save since and I have been watching football for over fifty years.”
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Arthur Wharton - Wikipedia

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I think wilder has changed everything.

In our position, a league 1 club with a league one owner, which is what we were when he took over, and what we have a sporting chance of not becoming. again,

I would rather trust wilder with the rebuild next season, under the current ownership, than any manager on earth.

Apart from rohl, obviously.
 
botoble said:
That Chile 🇨🇱 international forward followed by that Danish 🇩🇰 international goal keeper… his dedication to Britishness is offensive.
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"British players/players who had experienced of English football."

Can you not read? BBD was born and raised in this country and played most of his football here. KS grew up here, spent most of his life here and played most of his football here.
 
BalticBlade said:
Can you not read? BBD was born and raised in this country and played most of his football here. KS grew up here, spent most of his life here and played most of his football here.
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No I cannot read.

Simply a lucky guess that my flippant response was so close to the topic.

I hope my response is satisfactory.

I hope Wilder slips up again and gets us a promotion from the championship next season and a 9th place premier league finish with a “British or has experience in British football” squad.

IF he bought a bunch of non-experianced punts from foreign leagues that didn’t pay off he would be tarnished with the “why didn’t he buy experience” brush.

I think the risks of language, culture and step up in league are major factors in us not making more moves like this. We can’t afford the best from the top footballing nations hence why the likes of Ben Slimane/Benie Traore and up until Wilder arrived Souza haven’t torn up any trees since arriving. Unlike the big clubs we don’t have the luxury of punt transfers. There are teams (not managers) that have extensive scouting models such as Brentford and Brighton but note that irrelevant of the manager this strategy remains the same at those clubs. There is also the risk that once we fall from the premier league they will want to move as they have no allegiances to this country.

Huddersfield Town had this issue when they were relegated and their team of foreign pints imploded. Thankfully our Britishish team stuck together and had it not been for Jokanovic wanting to reinvent the way we play, I think we would have gone straight back up.

They be my views, do what you will with them.

Ps I lied, I can read really…
 
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Sheffsteel said:
You attention seeker.

If you can’t see the significant improvement then your a liar but you already know that.

Always makes me laugh out some people are unable to think and apply critical thinking.

For them it’s a simple equation.
We win = we were great, we might stay up
We lose = we were crap, sack the board, definitely down.

Under Wilder we now look a poor PL team/ good Championship team where as before Wilder we didn’t resemble a team, the players played liked they’d just met and you feared every game would be a 5-0 defeat. Games were like watching a league 1 side sometimes even a league 2 side in the cup against PL opposition.

Breaking all the records as the worse top flight team ever is simply not acceptable.

Many of our PL displays under Hecky is the least competitive I’ve seen us in over 50 years. I knew within 10 minutes of most matches that we had no chance and our task was to keep the score below 5.

The results under Hecky were the only positive because I think the performances were far worse.
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Think this nails it tbh
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
Spot on. Should have beat Villa and City. Not whipping title contenders is a disgrace. Gerrim sacked.
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Nearly did beat Villa - defended v well and in last 15 mins tried to win it - and against a side who had win previous 15? at home , beaten City and Arsenal along the way .

Against City ? Well I agree - we should have done much better than lose 2-0 away against the current world club champions.
 
Wilder is a breath of fresh. Under Hecky it was getting toxic and leaving a nasty taste. Nice guy. Never a Premiership manager.
 
Hecky went back to what Wilder was doing … wilder replaced Hecky so what do you expect?
 
I don’t know what some fans see if they think Wilders changed anything! Clueless. A very tiny new managerial bounce and then this. Needs to go
 
crazyblade1889 said:
I don’t know what some fans see if they think Wilders changed anything! Clueless. A very tiny new managerial bounce and then this. Needs to go
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And get who in? 😂 the players we’ve signed are shite. There’s only one person to blame for the state of this club & it’s the Prince. While ever he’s here nobody can cure us.
 

Whoever is manager will have the same tactics, sit back, contribute nothing to a game, hope the other team has an off day and we might get a point.

Most of our managers past and present are so fucking thick they don't get it.
What you are really saying to the players when tactics are being finalised in an indirect manner is, you're shit, you're shit, you're shit and you're shit, so don't do anything stupid like try to play a bit of football because you're shit.
 
crazyblade1889 said:
Wilders spent a kings ransom on utter dross. He has been well backed in his previous spell and this current one.
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His previous role he got us promoted twice & nearly got into Europe. He had one bad season. The only signing he spent too much on was Brewster.

McBurnie was a big reason we easily stayed up his first season & was promoted last season, I’d say over 4/5 years he’s returned what we paid for him. Anyway, thats all years ago now we have to move on from it.

This season he’s walked into some elses squad. Well backed? Two loans and a keeper for around £2m. In premier league terms I don’t even know if you can call that badly backed?

I don’t think we should have appointed Wilder, but no manager was going to improve us. The club is rotten at the top.
 

I'm no footy genuis but when a side gets a new manager due to getting tonked every week the narrative tends to be that the new persons priority will be to bring some organisation, make it hard to concede , shore things up etc . We seam to be less organised , and easier to score against .
Whilst I realise that the team under hecky had massively lost its way and by no means would suggest that a change wasn't required. We do seam to have very quickly lost our way yet again. I don't blame anyone as I'm sure no one , hecky , wilder or PA would have wished it but FFS it's really not worked so far and I'm not sure it will .
 
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