Why is it always "Sack the Manager?"

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I rarely tune into it as it annoys me. Only listen on way home from games..
Is David from Bolton you by chance?

Matt , no its not me , but i do think the bloke talks a lot of sense , with a level head . The last time i was on RS , was having a grumble about Howard Kendall .

Catch snippets sometimes after the match when we are at home , but agree with you , it is annoying .

That blade who comes on , who is always having a bet , and took is 92 year old dad out of the nursing home to the match and sat on the kop , is another , always good for a listen.

UTB
 



It just takes a few days to sack a manager and get a new one how long have we been building a team?
 
are they really ?

context , went to Madrid last night to watch real
they hung on to win on aggregate despite losing 4-3 at home to Schalke who had chances to win late on on away goals , but Real got through,but , the crowd was not happy .
They are top of La lIGA , in the last 8 of the CL and it was just like being at the Lane

The moaning and wailing was unbelievable , Benzema and Bale got some vile abuse from those around me, and the central defenders were heralded off with donkey noises as they left the pitch
I was thinking our fans would be exactly the same if we had won 10 european cups 32 league titles and 18 cups , but lost a home game , the fans would go ape shit , sack the manager drop the useless midfielder , felt right at home -
 
are they really ?

context , went to Madrid last night to watch real
they hung on to win on aggregate despite losing 4-3 at home to Schalke who had chances to win late on on away goals , but Real got through,but , the crowd was not happy .
They are top of La lIGA , in the last 8 of the CL and it was just like being at the Lane

The moaning and wailing was unbelievable , Benzema and Bale got some vile abuse from those around me, and the central defenders were heralded off with donkey noises as they left the pitch
I was thinking our fans would be exactly the same if we had won 10 european cups 32 league titles and 18 cups , but lost a home game , the fans would go ape shit , sack the manager drop the useless midfielder , felt right at home -
Fans in "not happy when team not playing to usual standard" shocker
 
are they really ?

context , went to Madrid last night to watch real
they hung on to win on aggregate despite losing 4-3 at home to Schalke who had chances to win late on on away goals , but Real got through,but , the crowd was not happy .
They are top of La lIGA , in the last 8 of the CL and it was just like being at the Lane

Could have swore I watched Real lose to Bilbao at the weekend that put Barca top, but I could be very much mistaken I guess
 
are they really ?

context , went to Madrid last night to watch real
they hung on to win on aggregate despite losing 4-3 at home to Schalke who had chances to win late on on away goals , but Real got through,but , the crowd was not happy .
They are top of La lIGA , in the last 8 of the CL and it was just like being at the Lane

The moaning and wailing was unbelievable , Benzema and Bale got some vile abuse from those around me, and the central defenders were heralded off with donkey noises as they left the pitch
I was thinking our fans would be exactly the same if we had won 10 european cups 32 league titles and 18 cups , but lost a home game , the fans would go ape shit , sack the manager drop the useless midfielder , felt right at home -

Good post BTL, I watched the game on TV, and just as you described, the animosity from the crowd towards the players was tangible. Although an extremely talented player, Ronaldo at times does a very passable take as petulant saviour. Bale was a shadow of what I remember him to be, perhaps the weight of responsibility is affecting his ability to perform, and so on with most of their players, although it does seem that Isco was the best Real player on the night. It's all relative isn't it? The level of expectation is beyond immense for this club, but as a team they're not up their with best teams of the past, but I guess that won't matter to their fans........so your point about fans of SUFC, completely agree, we're miserable now, we blame because, well, isn't that what supporter's do? We seek miracle workers, we have memories with more holes than a colander, and once our hackles are risen, well there's no turning back from that point. Don't expect an ability to revise an opinion, let's just repeat the same limited mantras.

Let's face it, we're a Division 1 club for a reason. We've sparkled occasionally, they've been joyful moments we've all embraced, but there have been many more moments of disappointment. At those moments we've looked ordinary, nothing special, unable or unwilling to compete, I'm not sure which of those two is the case. I certainly think we've not addressed important positions early enough, or been prepared to pay what it'll take when we should have. I can't quite grasp why we were in for Chesterfield's Doyle during January, for a reported seven figure sum, while not being willing to seek out a player of similar value before the first whistle of the season? I know these are familiar questions, but it doesn't make them less valid, or not worth repeating again. But back to the fans, I doubt fans are much different the world over, it's just that when a mindset becomes identified with a club then the fans tend to follow whatever bullshit that enforces their own prejudice.

For myself, well I'm a disappointed clapper - silly term by the way, but I'll use it for those who see life through a simpleton's prism. We have supporters who can't seem to get erect without a game passing where we haven't performed well and thrashed the opposition. I don't expect that level of performance, but let's be honest, we should have collected at least a further 10-15 points this season if we were really the division favourites that the bookies informed us we were. I suppose we'll have to battle on, continue to select which fan's faction we're best suited to, and either dispense well reasoned arguments, or embrace the hysteria that seems to be an increasingly regular happening on this forum. The one consolation is that we're no different to many other clubs. We think, or at least some of appear to do so, that we have an entitlement to something.....I'm not in that group so I guess my aforementioned title of clapper is now an undeniable cap I'll be made to wear no matter what happens.....oh dear, oh dear.
 
just pointing out disappointment is part of being a fan , to us its a way of life , but even the officially biggest club in world football has occasions when the fans throw out the toys

theres always someone who,s fault it is and always scapegoats, wether its a league one club or Real
 
just pointing out disappointment is part of being a fan , to us its a way of life , but even the officially biggest club in world football has occasions when the fans throw out the toys

theres always someone who,s fault it is and always scapegoats, wether its a league one club or Real

And it's that toy throwing that seems to become an hysterical excuse for leaving whatever brain-cells there are at home.

By all means have a considered and well thought out reason to point a finger, but without being fully armed with all the facts it seems to me that all we'll get are half-baked demands for someone to be sacked.
 
are they really ?

context , went to Madrid last night to watch real
they hung on to win on aggregate despite losing 4-3 at home to Schalke who had chances to win late on on away goals , but Real got through,but , the crowd was not happy .
They are top of La lIGA , in the last 8 of the CL and it was just like being at the Lane

The moaning and wailing was unbelievable , Benzema and Bale got some vile abuse from those around me, and the central defenders were heralded off with donkey noises as they left the pitch
I was thinking our fans would be exactly the same if we had won 10 european cups 32 league titles and 18 cups , but lost a home game , the fans would go ape shit , sack the manager drop the useless midfielder , felt right at home -
I wouldn't say this is the biggest load of shit iv'e heard but it's certainly in the top two. For one, Real Madrid aren't top. Two, we aren't no where near that standard and three our fans in general have the patience of a saint.

For anyone to judge us with a champions league side says more about themselves than it does the blades as a whole, especially the fanbase we currently have. Lets see how many fans Real Madrid have in the Spanish 3rd division and lets see how they moan then. Exactly, what a load of cobs wollop.

If people keep slating our fans as though no other fans do any different, then they'll eventually believe that the queen let them shit in her handbag.
 
I vote we sack Bladesway . They are the one constant in all our failings. Oh and me. Shit. Sack me! Sack the fans! Sack everyone! Sack sack sack!
 
are they really ?

context , went to Madrid last night to watch real
they hung on to win on aggregate despite losing 4-3 at home to Schalke who had chances to win late on on away goals , but Real got through,but , the crowd was not happy .
They are top of La lIGA , in the last 8 of the CL and it was just like being at the Lane

The moaning and wailing was unbelievable , Benzema and Bale got some vile abuse from those around me, and the central defenders were heralded off with donkey noises as they left the pitch
I was thinking our fans would be exactly the same if we had won 10 european cups 32 league titles and 18 cups , but lost a home game , the fans would go ape shit , sack the manager drop the useless midfielder , felt right at home -

New song for us then


'It's just like watching Real'
 



are they really ?

context , went to Madrid last night to watch real
they hung on to win on aggregate despite losing 4-3 at home to Schalke who had chances to win late on on away goals , but Real got through,but , the crowd was not happy .
They are top of La lIGA , in the last 8 of the CL and it was just like being at the Lane

The moaning and wailing was unbelievable , Benzema and Bale got some vile abuse from those around me, and the central defenders were heralded off with donkey noises as they left the pitch
I was thinking our fans would be exactly the same if we had won 10 european cups 32 league titles and 18 cups , but lost a home game , the fans would go ape shit , sack the manager drop the useless midfielder , felt right at home -



Good post. Though some can't get their heads round the simple fact that it's the same emotionally and just as important for fans at Real Madrid as it is for us and Hallam FC etc . Same when you draw comparisons on Van Gaal tactics, Mourinho negativity. They play a different game on another planet apparently.

Expectations not met obviously cause dissent anywhere in any league.The United crowd has been quiet but remarkably restrained. So were posters on here until around November time. By then we still had no strikers, in fact not until the end of January.

Clough is only just getting muted boos. I would never boo but every fan has the right. Should we miss the play offs Bramall lane will not be a nice place to be. Personally I will choose to be elsewhere, emotionally we might be in the same context as Real Madrid fans then.
 
Good post. Though some can't get their heads round the simple fact that it's the same emotionally and just as important for fans at Real Madrid as it is for us and Hallam FC etc . Same when you draw comparisons on Van Gaal tactics, Mourinho negativity. They play a different game on another planet apparently.

Expectations not met obviously cause dissent anywhere in any league.The United crowd has been quiet but remarkably restrained. So were posters on here until around November time. By then we still had no strikers, in fact not until the end of January.

Clough is only just getting muted boos. I would never boo but every fan has the right. Should we miss the play offs Bramall lane will not be a nice place to be. Personally I will choose to be elsewhere, emotionally we might be in the same context as Real Madrid fans then.

Woody , expectations and disappointments go hand in hand at BDTBL . If we don't make it this year , no blame can be levelled at the paying fans for any discontent levelled at the club. Supporters will demonstrate by there pockets , and not renew season tickets next season . That is the worst form of protest / dissent , as apathy creeps in.

UTB
 
just thankful this is not a Chelsea message board this morning..

How often do we hear that the team that lost didn't deserve it, that it was an unlucky result, that the better team lost. I have no specific axe to grind with Chelsea more than any other team (within my own, arbitrary, often-nonsensical grading of football teams), but they got exactly the result they deserved for being both complacent and cynical. Mind you, I was listening to 5Live and they were convinced it was a dirty foul that led to the sending off, but then a bit later (with the benefit of replays) were berating Chelsea for it. In hindsight they were right, but it did make me think, who would be a referee?
 
For some reason it puts me in mind in of the phrase which was coined about Forest I believe "Too good to go down" but they did. You can't take anything for granted in football.
 
Though some can't get their heads round the simple fact that it's the same emotionally and just as important for fans at Real Madrid as it is for us and Hallam FC etc .

The same but totally different context, thanks for the patronising pat on the head though.
 
Woody , expectations and disappointments go hand in hand at BDTBL . If we don't make it this year , no blame can be levelled at the paying fans for any discontent levelled at the club. Supporters will demonstrate by there pockets , and not renew season tickets next season . That is the worst form of protest / dissent , as apathy creeps in.

UTB

Don't think you can ever level blame at fans for their response. They pay their money they makes their choice. I don't do it but I do understand the frustrations of those who boo. Can't understand anyone lacing into a particular player but some do and it's their choice. The only people who succeed/fail are the players/manager/board. They are all partly to blame for failure and are all partly to be congratulated on success. My point from the OP was it's always the manager who takes the fall. Players can sit their and piss contracts away knowing that if you have a 3 year contract you can sit on your hands until the next manager comes around if you like. Football is very different to other businesses where a manager generally gets paid less than the players and generally gets the boot before the players.
 
The same but totally different context, thanks for the patronising pat on the head though.


You misunderstand. Sorry the "good post" comment was not meant for you, it was for bladetoolong. Maybe you are more comfortable with that though!!
 
Don't think you can ever level blame at fans for their response. They pay their money they makes their choice. I don't do it but I do understand the frustrations of those who boo. Can't understand anyone lacing into a particular player but some do and it's their choice. The only people who succeed/fail are the players/manager/board. They are all partly to blame for failure and are all partly to be congratulated on success. My point from the OP was it's always the manager who takes the fall. Players can sit their and piss contracts away knowing that if you have a 3 year contract you can sit on your hands until the next manager comes around if you like. Football is very different to other businesses where a manager generally gets paid less than the players and generally gets the boot before the players.

Bladesway , it is the players who the club stand or fall by , if the manger has purchased and recruited wisely , which as a whole Clough has this season . To put a positive spin on all things Blades , i do think the last 2no home results , may well bring a realisation , that being in the play offs , is not a forgone conclusion never mind winning them. It was said about a month ago that we had our Crewe moment , as last season . My view is that , some of the players may well be thinking of there win and promotion bonuses , and effort and commitment , giving that extra mile , may now be with us . Players these days do not play for pride or the shirt , its for the money , full stop.
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Clough s father didn't sign all the best players available, he signed the best characters.

The success of a manager hinges largely on his ability to appoint the right people to " spot a player" and make the signings to build a squad.

Without excellent signings success is difficult.
 
For some reason it puts me in mind in of the phrase which was coined about Forest I believe "Too good to go down" but they did. You can't take anything for granted in football.

Yes, and we chanted for Cough Snr at the match when that was proven not to be the case.
 
I wouldn't say this is the biggest load of shit iv'e heard but it's certainly in the top two. For one, Real Madrid aren't top. Two, we aren't no where near that standard and three our fans in general have the patience of a saint.

For anyone to judge us with a champions league side says more about themselves than it does the blades as a whole, especially the fanbase we currently have. Lets see how many fans Real Madrid have in the Spanish 3rd division and lets see how they moan then. Exactly, what a load of cobs wollop.

If people keep slating our fans as though no other fans do any different, then they'll eventually believe that the queen let them shit in her handbag.


we are a professional football club with thousands of fans , we follow our 11 every week in exactly the same way
its utter bollocks to say theres no similarities , it is identical
what teams win or dont win is inconsequential , my premise was the fans of the most successful side in europe moan just like we do , they disparage players we could only dream of owning, theres massive gulfs in honours and cash but the fans ,,,,, which was my point if your intelligent enough to read it , are identical , they dont jump up and down better than us and we get excited easier as we are so starved of success, but they moan exactly like we do if they dont beat inferior , as they see it teams , bit like us losing to Fleetwood Real losing to say Vallecano , I fail to see when OR WHERE i PUT SUFC WERE ON A PAR WITH REAL MADRID AS A TEAM .
smarty arse remarks like they are 2nd , are how low you have to stoop to make a point ,pedantic remarks are for weak arguments , glad I didnt put 70k crowd you would have told me it was only 69986 just to show how clever you are
 



You had me up until this point. There is no context between us and Madrid.

yes there is they have fans ,,, we have fans , its a big world out there it extends beond shoreham street , fans of all clubs get uppity
as I sat there listening to one fan calling Benzemar a useless mother fucker I thought I could be on the kop listening to a blade encouraging Higdon in the same way
 

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