Where Are Our New Ones ?

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We've sold 16,000 plus season tickets, that's enough for McCabe, he's now no longer bothered what happens for the rest of the summer in the transfer market.

Remember we have a pathway for youth to address any gaps in the squad.
 

Liaminho9 said:
Just wait...

Kyle Walker will have a brilliant Euros, prompting Barcelona to bid £24m for him to replace the outgoing Dani Alves, and we get a few million from the sell-on clause to bump up our transfer budget.
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If it's the same fucking Space Cadet that dealt with the Hammond contract, we'll get fuck all. In fact we'll probably owe them summat.
 
The Crab said:
If it's the same fucking Space Cadet that dealt with the Hammond contract, we'll get fuck all. In fact we'll probably owe them summat.
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From the Star a couple of years ago:

Sheffield United inserted sell-on clauses into the deals which saw Kyle Walker and Kyle Naughton join Tottenham Hotspur five seasons ago, The Star can confirm.

Details about the arrangements, which are believed to guarantee United 10 per cent of any future transfer fee...
 
Liaminho9 said:
From the Star a couple of years ago:

Sheffield United inserted sell-on clauses into the deals which saw Kyle Walker and Kyle Naughton join Tottenham Hotspur five seasons ago, The Star can confirm.

Details about the arrangements, which are believed to guarantee United 10 per cent of any future transfer fee...
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Fair enough Liam.

My only reservation is that it is The Star, I'm more inclined to believe that three little pigs can build houses than anything in there :)
 
Think the Ricky Holmes situation's going to be pivotal.

If it's not us that's the club that's in for him, reckon there'll be a meltdown scenario.

On the other hand, if it is us, and we've been willing to work behind the scenes, force the situation, and then to pay a decent fee for him, then we'll be starting to look pretty ambitious (within our straitened means).
 
Liaminho9 said:
From the Star a couple of years ago:

Sheffield United inserted sell-on clauses into the deals which saw Kyle Walker and Kyle Naughton join Tottenham Hotspur five seasons ago, The Star can confirm.

Details about the arrangements, which are believed to guarantee United 10 per cent of any future transfer fee...
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So how come we got fuck all when Naughton was sold? Always a way to get around that ask the Spurs chairman.
 
I'm sure I heard that the sell-on clauses weren't that simple and were time-bound?
 
They can often become null and void if no profit is made on the player, which could be the case with Naughton. Not sure on them being time bound but i can recall clubs 'buying out' the option in the contract at a later date. (For example Spurs might offer us £1m to eliminate the clause, whilst Walker is still their player)

Edit
Tottenham has actually done this in the past:
There have been a few instances where clubs have not included a sell-on clause before selling their player and have gone on to deeply regret it. Southampton were the club in the losing position during Gareth Bale’s world-record £86 million transfer from Tottenham Hotspur to Real Madrid, missing out on a potential sum of £20 million. When the Saints sold the winger to Tottenham for £5 million in 2007, his contract included an addition of a 25% sell-on clause and £5 million in add-ons. They later decided to waive the sell-on clause in favour of £3 million from the London club due to financial constraints. This meant that they would not receive a single penny for any future transfers for the Welshman, who eventually went on to become an international football star.
 
Liaminho9 said:
There have been a few instances where clubs have not included a sell-on clause before selling their player and have gone on to deeply regret it. Southampton were the club in the losing position during Gareth Bale’s world-record £86 million transfer from Tottenham Hotspur to Real Madrid, missing out on a potential sum of £20 million. When the Saints sold the winger to Tottenham for £5 million in 2007, his contract included an addition of a 25% sell-on clause and £5 million in add-ons. They later decided to waive the sell-on clause in favour of £3 million from the London club due to financial constraints. This meant that they would not receive a single penny for any future transfers for the Welshman, who eventually went on to become an international football star.
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Liaminho9 said:
They can often become null and void if no profit is made on the player, which could be the case with Naughton. Not sure on them being time bound but i can recall clubs 'buying out' the option in the contract at a later date. (For example Spurs might offer us £1m to eliminate the clause, whilst Walker is still their player)

Edit
Tottenham has actually done this in the past:
There have been a few instances where clubs have not included a sell-on clause before selling their player and have gone on to deeply regret it. Southampton were the club in the losing position during Gareth Bale’s world-record £86 million transfer from Tottenham Hotspur to Real Madrid, missing out on a potential sum of £20 million. When the Saints sold the winger to Tottenham for £5 million in 2007, his contract included an addition of a 25% sell-on clause and £5 million in add-ons. They later decided to waive the sell-on clause in favour of £3 million from the London club due to financial constraints. This meant that they would not receive a single penny for any future transfers for the Welshman, who eventually went on to become an international football star.
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I thought they bumped up the claimed value of Naughton in the Kyles deal in order to get away with paying us nothing?

They did it to Swansea as well I think, Bought 2 players and later claimed one was free to avoid paying anything.
 

grafikhaus said:
Fuck all to do with this thread but *My fave film of all time* alert. Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men. I thought it was spiffballing? Ain't summer's boring...
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Very good film, can't remember but I'm sure you're right. "Spitballing" is something I heard many years ago, can't remember where.

And yes, British Summer is boring. Can't wait to get on Hols, read some books on the beach and have some beers.
 
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Could you imagine if we'd done something like that. McCabe would be hanging by the elastic waste of his soiled boxers from one of the flag poles over the south stand.
 
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Could you imagine if we'd done something like that. McCabe would be hanging by the elastic waste of his soiled boxers from one of the flag poles over the south stand.
 
Thickandthinner, you got one of those Arkwright keyboards? :)

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finlaytheblade said:
Where's all the positivity gone things will be happening we can't go into the new season with no recognised centre backs.Get real for Christ's sake.
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The season we got relegated I think we had this problem and “fixed” it with a last minute loan of Nyron Nosworthy!
 
Grizzly blade said:
What I find comical, is the assumption Wilder will fare better at getting the players in he wants than Previous managers.
Past managers had control over who he wanted brought in...but not whether the deal was completed. All this talk of managers being solely to blame for past failures is rubbish.
Some players were missed out on because the board messed about, refused to spend on "X" because certain members of the board didn't rate him....etc etc. It's been a mess for too long.
Now this transfer committee is allegedly up and running, do we honestly believe things will be better? I don't, it's going to be worse IMHO.

businessmen and accountants should not be negotiating player transfers. Experts in football transfers should. It's not like any other business in the world, your average man in the street doesn't go to job interviews with agents and an entourage all making demands of employers to secure their services. And it's that lack of expertise and the certain splits and differences in opinion that will happen that will make this committee fail...again IMHO.
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I’m sad I say I largely agree with that. But no doubt it will all be Wilder’s fault and the axe will fall again to another wave of unsubstantiated optimism when we appoint any one of Phil Parkinson/ Steve Cotterill/ Brian Deane/ Chris Morgan/ Neil Warnock or whoever else the flavour of the month is. We’ll spend the first part of the summer being optimistic now we’ve got a “proper manager” in charge before noticing that our player recruitment continues to be, on the whole, not good enough but some will retain the optimism until we’re out of the race again at which point they’ll call for the manager’s head and the cycle goes on.
 
Grizzly blade said:
Wilder will certainly be hamstrung by players he doesn't want.
The owners will not run the risk of getting in players to replace those transfer listed and then be stuck with both because we can't shift them.
As I see it, our issues aren't to do with getting in players we want as they are away on holiday.....it's more likely we can't get shut of the players we want out because they are away and not playing ball.
It's not like those out of contract will be pulling up trees to find a club and a wage....these on the list have a club, a salary and more than likely a pay cut if they go elsewhere. So they can drag their heels while their agent demands as much as he can from United to smooth a way for their client into another club.

That's what I reckon Wilder means when he talks about lots happening behind the scenes!

So I expect us to be actively looking for bargains and free agents....while hoping we can push the listed players out and free up the remaining budget and potentially some transfer fees!
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All of this is true but should be much less of an issue than it has been for the past 12 months. Since the Swindon Semi final we’ve managed to ship out


Doyle

Ben Davies

Steven Davies (Loan Ended)

Jason Holt (Loan Ended)

Ian Turner

Howard

Alcock

Collins

McEveley

Harris

JCR

Cuvelier

Baxter

Flynn

Higdon

Dimaio

Khan

McFadzean

Kennedy

Murphy

McGahey

Scarisbrick

Evans

Berry



That’s 24 players that have moved on over a period of about 13 months during which time, the only new players we have committed to the wage bill are Sharp, Woolford and Hammond (We’ve had loans that have come and gone like Sammon, Edgar and Baptiste but no longer paying them either). We’ve now added Duffy and Hussey too.


The only fee we’ve paid in that time is circa £500k for Sharp whilst receiving around £1.5 million for Murphy and an undisclosed fee for Alcock leaving us with a surplus of a million. So that’s 5 in against 24 out whilst also raising a million in transfer fees (and let’s not forget the man u cup money).


Now I know we’ve been running at a big loss. So the question is whether we are prepared to carry a wage bill of anything like what we’ve had previously. That depends on whether the owners are prepared to continue to subsidise it. If they are willing to show at least similar ambition then we should have plenty of room in the budget for new players. Time will tell whether that will be the case though. It might be that we’re entering a new period of austerity.
 
1danewhitehouse said:
All of this is true but should be much less of an issue than it has been for the past 12 months. Since the Swindon Semi final we’ve managed to ship out


Doyle

Ben Davies

Steven Davies (Loan Ended)

Jason Holt (Loan Ended)

Ian Turner

Howard

Alcock

Collins

McEveley

Harris

JCR

Cuvelier

Baxter

Flynn

Higdon

Dimaio

Khan

McFadzean

Kennedy

Murphy

McGahey

Scarisbrick

Evans

Berry



That’s 24 players that have moved on over a period of about 13 months during which time, the only new players we have committed to the wage bill are Sharp, Woolford and Hammond (We’ve had loans that have come and gone like Sammon, Edgar and Baptiste but no longer paying them either). We’ve now added Duffy and Hussey too.



The only fee we’ve paid in that time is circa £500k for Sharp whilst receiving around £1.5 million for Murphy and an undisclosed fee for Alcock leaving us with a surplus of a million. So that’s 5 in against 24 out whilst also raising a million in transfer fees (and let’s not forget the man u cup money).


Now I know we’ve been running at a big loss. So the question is whether we are prepared to carry a wage bill of anything like what we’ve had previously. That depends on whether the owners are prepared to continue to subsidise it. If they are willing to show at least similar ambition then we should have plenty of room in the budget for new players. Time will tell whether that will be the case though. It might be that we’re entering a new period of austerity.
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which is exactly why theres some funds for chris
 
We're entering a period of austerity, hear the rhetoric pouring out of McCabe's mouth, being regurgitated by Wilder and being swallowed by fans who now are "happy we're not being taken the piss out of on wages" etc. truth be told (well in my opinion anyway) we are having the piss taken out of us, by the board - as per.
 

Basically unless something drastic happens in the next few days, we're pretty much fucked before we start, or it could be that Wilder has borrowed Harry Potters wand, and the scraps he fields for the pre season show abit of magic, eather way, even if we only field 9 players, it surely can't be as bad as last season!!? Can it!!??
 
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