When Did Away Ends Start

[ancientblade]

The LEEDS game was probably 1974. We played them at Elland Road on Easter Monday and at Bramall Lane on Easter Tuesday. Unique fixtures then.
Yes we went to Elland Road on the Monday and ended up in trouble and on Tuesday as we entered the kop we saw the twat from Monday walking up the kop steps.
We lost two nil.
Interesting days

leeds had 10k on the kop that night and most were in the ground 2 hours before kick off nothing united fans could do about that but thats the only time leeds have done that they tried to get on the shoreham from the lane end twice in the early 70s and came unstuck both times

 

[Nick Jansky]

leeds had 10k on the kop that night and most were in the ground 2 hours before kick off nothing united fans could do about that but thats the only time leeds have done that they tried to get on the shoreham from the lane end twice in the early 70s and came unstuck both times

And that occasion in 1974 spawned the song “You took the kop at half past five again” the next few times we played them.

 

[ancientblade]

And that occasion in 1974 spawned the song “You took the kop at half past five again” the next few times we played them.

yeah exactly only 2 clubs have taken the shoreham in league games and thats man utd and leeds in 74 older wednesday lads still tell tales of when they took the shoreham in a county cup game and a testimonial game what they forget to mention is that none of our lot turned up for either game as ronnie sharpe alludes to in his book theyve never come remotely close in league games when all ours have turned up and never will do

 

[XH536]

You overestimate my memory! The only problem I remember were the miserable old gits at the Lane End complaining that when Utd kicked the wrong way (towards the Lane End 2nd half), we used to arrive at half-time with our rattles and disturb their peace and quiet.
The first time I was aware of crowd trouble starting were matches at Everton and Leeds in 1961. We were chased after the Cup win at Everton as we headed back to the station; and a group of Leeds teenagers headed towards us behind the goal a bit aggressively before the match started. The adult Leeds supporters told them to bugger off, and they did.
Segregation has been a necessary evil. It is much more enjoyable to share space with opposition supporters (as we used to be called).

Agree whole heartedly with your last sentence.
1950's, we, mi grandad and his youngest son, National Service 1947-48 to show his age, did away games, Boxing Days, Easters with a sprinkling of other attractive away fixtures that took their fancy.
I still, vividly, remember at Boothferry Park the feller who, in a sparsely filled terracing around 2pm, inadvertently hit me in the face whilst gesticulating, putting his point, Mi uncle had him by the lapels and was about to deliver the Crux de Gar when mi grandad stepped in. After apologies all was well, although the conversation some what dried up.
Hawthorns, just mi uncle and me. Blades were beaten, 2-1 but Hagan scored, so made my day. We were in amongst the Baggies supporters and a congenial set they were. Despite the loss an enjoyable footballing afternoon.
Main Rd., not the supporters this time just a crap day. En route, car, opposite direction, sideswiped the coach so game started when we arrived and it started to rain. Rushed to nearest turnstiles and ended opposite side to player entrance side, no cover. Shortly, heavens opened and we started to get soaked so we came out and payed again to go behind a goal and under cover but totally soaked. Blades lost 2-1 to round it off.
Great to be a Blade.

 

[maidmarion]

The LEEDS game was probably 1974. We played them at Elland Road on Easter Monday and at Bramall Lane on Easter Tuesday. Unique fixtures then.
Yes we went to Elland Road on the Monday and ended up in trouble and on Tuesday as we entered the kop we saw the twat from Monday walking up the kop steps.
We lost two nil.
Interesting days

I was at that at match and there were lots of Leeds fans on the Kop. It was packed and I also remember young fans being passed to the front of the Kop and being put in the corner of John street and Shoreham Street.

 

[blade too long]

the initial segregation was turbo charged into existance after
On May 29, 1985, 39 people went to the biggest club game in soccer and never returned home.
the HEYSEL DISASTER, when Livepool fans rushed italian fans on the same end before the kick off

still to this day dont understand whty the match went ahead

 

[Pegster]

yeah exactly only 2 clubs have taken the shoreham in league games and thats man utd and leeds in 74 older wednesday lads still tell tales of when they took the shoreham in a county cup game and a testimonial game what they forget to mention is that none of our lot turned up for either game as ronnie sharpe alludes to in his book theyve never come remotely close in league games when all ours have turned up and never will do

Think it was seen as a sign of deserved retribution in the early 90's when our lads went to Elland Road and filled the back upper section of the old Lowfields Road Stand . Didn't go down well that lots of their season ticket holders couldn't get anywhere near their seats !!

 

[cahill]

i suspect that was ayresome park april 71 in our promotion season i was there united fans were massed on boro's end and wondering where there fans were we found out at 2.45 when thousands of em surged at us very nervy afternoon that was

Yes it was. Ended 1-1 I think. I’d no idea which end we were on, just followed the mob. Days when police didn’t restrict where you went. In fact can’t remember any police at all. Wow 54 years ago, and you were also there ?

I’d no idea about Boro’s reputation.

 

[cahill]

Remember that clearly as well. Used to go to Leeds with mates and family who were all Leeds fans. Always seemed to fall around Easter. Played in the FA Cup 6th round at Elland road as well

 

[ancientblade]

Yes it was. Ended 1-1 I think. I’d no idea which end we were on, just followed the mob. Days when police didn’t restrict where you went. In fact can’t remember any police at all. Wow 54 years ago, and you were also there ?

I’d no idea about Boro’s reputation.

yes was there billy dearden scored first with a header from tc's cross at other end united fans were on their end behind goal before boro's mob came storming in at 2.45 and reclaimed it hairy afternoon that was

 

[CarlMcBlade]

When I started going as a kid in the early 70’s, my Dad used to take me into the West Terrace on John Street. Although I was usually perched on the white railings at the front a couldn’t help but notice a few fans behind me jumping up and down when the other team scored. Depending on the opposition the number of away fans in there (for a young boy) could be quite intimidating especially when the likes of Leeds and Man Utd were in town. But that was the early 70s and if there was any segregation at all, I think it was mainly a self imposed thing, where away fans just stuck together for their own safety. I guess segregation became more managed when violence spilled out onto the streets, and also when the football specials used to arrive the police escort used to put the fans at a certain side of the ground…So it might have been a more organic switch to “away ends” than we think.

 

[ancientblade]

early 70s there were some vicious battles on the shoreham the worst being newcastle 71/72 but nobody got the better of the shoreham boys a strange mixture of hundreds of skinheads and greasers who never mixed on the kop or at the back before and half time but they joined forces on a regular basis to repel visiting fans and nobody got the centre of the shoreham

 

[cahill]

early 70s there were some vicious battles on the shoreham the worst being newcastle 71/72 but nobody got the better of the shoreham boys a strange mixture of hundreds of skinheads and greasers who never mixed on the kop or at the back before and half time but they joined forces on a regular basis to repel visiting fans and nobody got the centre of the shoreham

Remember that Newcastle game as well. For some reason I was on the dividing line between the two sets of fans, without getting involved.

From memory I think West Ham was similar, the « quality goal from a quality player « match

 

[Nick Jansky]

From memory I think West Ham was similar, the « quality goal from a quality player « match

That was the one where a few West Ham bought scalding hot drinks, congregated at the top of the kop & then charged down through us, showering us in tea & kicking & punching their way through us. They took a bit of a hiding on their way down, but arrived at the bottom of the kop in one piece.

 

[ancientblade]

Remember that Newcastle game as well. For some reason I was on the dividing line between the two sets of fans, without getting involved.

From memory I think West Ham was similar, the « quality goal from a quality player « match

mIssed that one was at a wedding unbelievable eh but know west ham got sorted good and proper on the shoreham 3 years later in a night game we won 3 - 0 cass pennant makes reference to it in one of his books and recollects being very lucky when 400 united fans came at them near the old queens head pub in pond street and only just escaped

 

[cahill]

That was the one where a few West Ham bought scalding hot drinks, congregated at the top of the kop & then charged down through us, showering us in tea & kicking & punching their way through us. They took a bit of a hiding on their way down, but arrived at the bottom of the kop in one piece.

From memory there was fighting on and off all match. I do remember WHAM fans throwing tea and charging but more top of Kop.
I was stood to the right of them as an observer ( voyeur for hooli porn). Fist time I ever saw black lads in numbers among their fans.

 

[Nick Jansky]

From memory there was fighting on and off all match. I do remember WHAM fans throwing tea and charging but more top of Kop.
I was stood to the right of them as an observer ( voyeur for hooli porn). Fist time I ever saw black lads in numbers among their fans.

Yes, they started at the top of the kop where they chucked the tea to announce themselves and then piled on down. And some of those black lads looked huge, but I was only 14 at the time.

 

[ancientblade]

Yes, they started at the top of the kop where they chucked the tea to announce themselves and then piled on down. And some of those black lads looked huge, but I was only 14 at the time.

one of them would have been cass pennant and he had great respect for our fans in his account of events in his book biggest black guy ive seen from an opposing team was dalton leader of arsenals north bank a dozen of them infiltrated the centre of the shoreham before the 5 - 0 cup defeat to arsenal late 70s and announced themselves as the teams came out they didnt last long however as about 200 united fans swarmed all over them lol and were escorted to the lane end steve cowen also speaks about this incident in his book