What Might Have Been Had We Beaten Wigan

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LoughboroBlade, I agree about Rob Hulse: the exception that proves the rule! He wasn't adequately replaced, though, was he? Stead did very well but badly needed a 'Hulse' alongside him.

That 10 point gap was all the incentive we needed to take a calculated risk and spend on one or two ''proper" Premiership players. Our failure to do so was surely step one of our subsequent downfall (I actually think step two - step one would have been, immediately we got promotion, to thank Warnock for his magnificent achievement and then sack him with a generous pay off! Heartless, I know!)
 



LoughboroBlade said:
There were plenty of poor signings that season. A lot of people pick out Fathi and Shelton - I think they were always signed with the following year in mind though. Claude Davis is for me the worst. He did have a few good games admittedly, but he was wildly over-priced, injury-prone, inconsistent - we'd have been better off sticking with Morgs and Jags as the first-choice two, bringing in a cheaper defender (or getting someone in on a season loan) as cover alongside Lucketti, and then investing that cash elsewhere in the team.
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But jags was playing central midfield or right back at that point. Can't remember warnock ever using him as a central defender (apart from the wigan game that is)
 
Warnock played Jags at Right Back for the Wigan game, to try to kill the threat of Lee McCullough on the Left.
 
Highbury_Blade said:
But jags was playing central midfield or right back at that point. Can't remember warnock ever using him as a central defender (apart from the wigan game that is)
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Jags started playing CB in the 02/03 season when Murphy went back to Oz (the back four against Arse in the FA Semi was Curtis/Jags/Page/Kozzy) and did so many more times in the subsequent 4 seasons for us.
 
Worksop II said:
Warnock played Jags at Right Back for the Wigan game, to try to kill the threat of Lee McCullough on the Left.
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One can only wonder on the mental torture wrought if Wigan could have fielded Paul Shaw that day too..
 
Worksop II said:
Warnock played Jags at Right Back for the Wigan game, to try to kill the threat of Lee McCullough on the Left.
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Are you sure? I thought the back line was (from right to left) Geary, Morgs, Jags, Kilgallon

Pretty sure i remember thinking, he should have played jags on the right, as geary was having a hell of a time with McCullough.

Maybe it's my memory playing tricks though
 
Grecian2000 said:
Jags started playing CB in the 02/03 season when Murphy went back to Oz (the back four against Arse in the FA Semi was Curtis/Jags/Page/Kozzy) and did so many more times in the subsequent 4 seasons for us.
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Pretty sure that by the premier league season he was almost exclusively a central midfielder though?
 
Highbury_Blade said:
Pretty sure that by the premier league season he was almost exclusively a central midfielder though?
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He started in midfield but eventually found his way back to his correct spot (Warnock a bit behind the curve). Can't say how many games were played in which position, but he was right back against Wigan - it was his cross from the right for Stead to nod in.
 
I think it was the only time Warnock did play him at RB that Season

Jags, Morgs, Kilgallon, Geary
 
Highbury_Blade said:
Are you sure? I thought the back line was (from right to left) Geary, Morgs, Jags, Kilgallon

Pretty sure i remember thinking, he should have played jags on the right, as geary was having a hell of a time with McCullough.

Maybe it's my memory playing tricks though
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It is, on this one occasion only :)

Jags specifically played on the right to accommodate the threat of McCulloch [It's a pity he wasn't 'on the right' when that free-kick came into the box!]

Another example of Warnock being out of his depth I'm afraid. Unsettling our organisation through worrying too much about pretty average (at that level) opponents.
 
Being a Blade it's not "IF" it's "WHEN", When are we going to get promoted, when are we going to buy a team not just collect freebies and or oldies, when are we going to win a playoff, when are we going to beat a team in penalties. Just WHEN.
 
Wouldn't we have had to change our name to another football club? Fucking it up is what we do, its clear for all to see.
 
Pinchy said:
LoughboroBlade, I agree about Rob Hulse: the exception that proves the rule! He wasn't adequately replaced, though, was he? Stead did very well but badly needed a 'Hulse' alongside him.
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Bit harsh that. Hulse got injured on the 17th of March at Chelsea, long after the transfer window had closed. Stead was brought in to play alongside Hulse and they actually looked decent together.
 



JohnDenver said:
He started in midfield but eventually found his way back to his correct spot (Warnock a bit behind the curve).
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Moyes of course made the exact same mistake and persisted with Jags in the middle of midfield for much of his first season at Everton. I remember going to their home game against Middlesbrough a few months into the season where he was paired alongside Phil Neville - probably one of the worst midfield combinations I've seen at Premier League level. The Everton fans I spoke to couldn't understand why he'd been signed - and found it similarly odd that Beattie was doing so well for us at the same time.
 
super_pig said:
i'll do it.. judging his reaction would be a good way to see what the truth was.. like pinchy says i've always found it a bit unsettling tbh
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Any more unsettling than Mike Dean failing to spot Jagielka being thrown to the floor in Wigan's penalty area?

Just one of those Blades days.
 
JohnDenver said:
:)

Actually, by way of a proper answer, I've summoned up the courage to find the video and linked it at the exact point of the shove to limit the pain of viewing. C&P here (I can't stop the website wanting to embed the video player on receipt of a youtube url).

HTML: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFnyZ1GxNEs&feature=player_detailpage#t=57s

You can see the Wigan fella jumping into the back of Jagielka, highlighted by the fact Jags lands on his arse rather than his feet.

Or suffer the full version here:



I'll never listen to Sigur Ros again.... :(
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I tried to, I really did, but got 10 seconds in and couldn't watch any more. Even after 5 years it really hurts. Any more than I could read the Burnley or Huddersfield Play off programmes.
 
Pinchy said:
He made it clear that he was starstruck at the thought of Premier League football. In away games he set up to snatch a draw or lose by as few goals as possible. Promoted teams before and since have shown that you must be positive to survive.

He failed to recruit a single 'quality' Premiership player, preferring to spend our money on multiple sub-standard purchases.

He, together with the chairman, squandered a golden opportunity to cement our place in the Premiership when we were ten points clear in January.

He thought (as many of you, ludicrously, still do!) that committed, scrapping upanatem was some sort of substitute for real talent.

He was out of his depth, as he has demonstrated on each of his brief flirtations with top level management.
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So how did we get 38 points then - let's address that first rather than just ignore it please? And I massively agree with you about scrapping etc but it is very difficult to sign the quality players you seem to think would just walk to BDTBL to face what was almost certainly going to be a relegation scrap. Not always the case with promoted clubs and agree thaty Reading and Swansea have proved that.

Mistakes yes, Fighting an uphill batle yes with some of the players yes but to say way out of his depth etc is a bit harsh I reckon
 
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