What can we do to have a better atmosphere

[pommpey]

Put lyrics to the songs on the noticeboard.

"You're gonna get your fuckin' 'eads kicked in!"

"My old man said 'Be a Wednesday fan' I said, 'Fuck off, bollocks you're a cunt!'"

Bouncy ball on each syllable.

That sort of thing.

pommpey

 

[South Bucks]

Problem has not been the introduction of seating into standing areas but how some clubs like ours have chosen to allocate it.

If at the end of each season folk renew their ST for the same seat next season and do this for decades that area gradually and eventually becomes like a petrified forrest full of nice old timers in the best and most central seats. Great reward for them and their loyalty but not necessarily great for the atmosphere in the long term.

Any newcomers or younger people then wishing to join this party realise to fit in they have to be fragmented and fit in round the outside or run the wrath of sitting in odd seats inbetween in "Uncle John's old seat" and be told each match "he sat there from 1958 to 2008 don't you know and you're sitting in his seat". I've done it a few times, its like a time warp, no thanks.

When it was all standing on the kop and thereby unallocated, as people got older they'd migrate from the lively noisier back/centre heart of the kop to the margins where it was quieter (or into seats) and younger noisier people would naturally replace them in the kop centre thus keeping it alive. I suspect this doesn't happen now, people just renew their ST for the same old seat each season and just stay put until they can't go to games anymore and with it the heart of the kop and all around it gradually ages and dies.

A natural but entirely predictable and preventable death in my view. Yes people can have allocated ST seating in many areas, but not in a few critcal areas if we want to keep the atmosphere alive IMO.

 

[alcoblade]

At the risk of offending a few (sorry), but "being too nervous to sing because we might fuck it up" is quite possibly the most lame excuse imaginable for not getting behind the team.........

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

Problem has not been the introduction of seating into standing areas but how some clubs like ours have chosen to allocate it.

If at the end of each season folk renew their ST for the same seat next season and do this for decades that area gradually and eventually becomes like a petrified forrest full of nice old timers in the best and most central seats. Great reward for them and their loyalty but not necessarily great for the atmosphere in the long term.

Any newcomers or younger people then wishing to join this party realise to fit in they have to be fragmented and fit in round the outside or run the wrath of sitting in odd seats inbetween in "Uncle John's old seat" and be told each match "he sat there from 1958 to 2008 don't you know and you're sitting in his seat". I've done it a few times, its like a time warp, no thanks.

When it was all standing on the kop and thereby unallocated, as people got older they'd migrate from the lively noisier back/centre heart of the kop to the margins where it was quieter (or into seats) and younger noisier people would naturally replace them in the kop centre thus keeping it alive. I suspect this doesn't happen now, people just renew their ST for the same old seat each season and just stay put until they can't go to games anymore and with it the heart of the kop and all around it gradually ages and dies.

A natural but entirely predictable and preventable death in my view. Yes people can have allocated ST seating in many areas, but not in a few critcal areas if we want to keep the atmosphere alive IMO.

........and at the opposite end of the spectrum, you've absolutely nailed it.

UTB

 

[Rodley]

Agree with that unallocated seating at the rear of the Kop.

 

[Darthblade]

Topless barstaff.
Topless flag wavers.
Topless Gary Sinclair.
Lesbian mud wrestling at half time.
Norwegian horse porn throughout the game shown on the big screen.

That should sort it.

Can we replace the topless Gary Sinclair with Kelly Brook please ( topless of course ) .....

Oh and Ive no problem with the lesbian mud wrestling ....... even though I'm old I'm very inclusive and PC ...... I've always said there's nowt wrong with lesbians ...... as long as we're allowed to watch 'em !!

UTB & FTP

 

[sothall blade]

Let me run this by you.
Considering that everything they do at S6 is perfect and everything we do is tacky.
How about a
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I'll get my coat.

I think the "Twat Thread" is calling you

 

[sothall blade]

I'll never forget the day the pigs were 3-0 up against Derby and Derby scored 3 late goals, the 3rd goal on the scoreboard was celebrated like a cup final goal !

What like Derek Temples goal in 66 Cup final ?

 

[Pinchy]

At the risk of offending a few (sorry), but "being too nervous to sing because we might fuck it up" is quite possibly the most lame excuse imaginable for not getting behind the team.........

UTB

It doesnt even make sense, in its own terms.

1. Having a good shout and sing is a pretty good way to expend nervous energy.
2. It might just help the team to not fuck it up, especially as this generation has no history of fucking it up.

 

[alcoblade]

It doesnt even make sense, in its own terms.

1. Having a good shout and sing is a pretty good way to expend nervous energy.
2. It might just help the team to not fuck it up, especially as this generation has no history of fucking it up.

Without doubt a rowdy atmosphere has a baring on results. Such a shame that we can't create one.

As always, there are a number of factors. Little excitement about the opposition is a big one.

The one thing we could affect is creating an unreserved seating section at the back of the kop. Right now there are 2 unofficial "singing sections" that regularly cancel each other out.

UTB

 

[Pinchy]

Without doubt a rowdy atmosphere has a baring on results. Such a shame that we can't create one.

As always, there are a number of factors. Little excitement about the opposition is a big one.

The one thing we could affect is creating an unreserved seating section at the back of the kop. Right now there are 2 unofficial "singing sections" that regularly cancel each other out.

UTB

The Palace one is front and left as viewed from the pitch. They make a hell of a noise for a few hundred. If they can....

 

[Bladeloyal]

Stop looking at your phones while the match is on ,smart phones dumbing the world ,done from my smart phone

 

[raul]

Is that the same Palace who rank 92nd of all pro clubs for points gained since Jan 2016?

Better atmosphere yes please , but an organic one, not a bunch of balloons bouncing up and down for 90 mins going whooooaaa whoa whoa wo wo whooooaaa .

 

[Ricky]

What could be a better idea than the lower tier is the upper tier, longer term at least.

The compromise would be having away fans in the lower but the combination of a good view and a potentially good atmosphere could make the upper a very attractive place to go so the numbers there could be sustained and a prominent area of support could be created to rival the Kop.
The same could apply to the lower but not as many fans would want to go there due to the inferior view.

It's crazy when you think about it, we've had that stand sitting there for years with no home fans on when we could be on there getting a better view than the Kop and ideally creating a good atmosphere too. If we could do that there's nowhere in Bramall Lane I'd rather be to watch a game, and I imagine many others would feel the same.

 

[South Bucks]

........and at the opposite end of the spectrum, you've absolutely nailed it.

UTB

Thanks and maybe a related question is "how much do we want a better atmosphere ?" Personally I think a cracking atmosphere is maybe worth 10 to 15 points a season in terms of boosting morale for our team, intimidating the opposition and influencing referees. Be interested to know what others think. We can't complain if refs allow themselves to be swayed when away from home if we don't do the same at home. How many away league 1 teams would go all out to win at an intimidating BDTBL ?

I'm going to Bristol next week to enjoy its glorious unallocated free standing terraces. I'll only know a small fraction of the utd fans there by name but I know it'll be a geat atmosphere and we'll all sing loud and proud and get behind the team. By the end I doubt I'll have much of a voice left as usual regardless of how we play. Says it all really. Give people the right environment and they will sing and support.