What a joke of a club we are

[Patrick Suffaux]

They do indeed. But they don't happen without strategic management and stable finances.

Very true JD and when you look at all those clubs they have one thing in common. They bring in a manager and back his vision. They have an ethos, a plan, a method.....we on the other hand have our own type of business model.....sell anything that's worth a few bob.

 

[Marco Van Barsteward]

Can't see there's any need for this. I don't know sitwell but respect to him for going for so long. He has seen real low times at the lane in those years. This isn't all that bad. Yes it's not long since we were premiership but surely we should be getting behind the team to try and get them back.

Fairytales do happen. Swansea, Wigan, Fulham, Stoke, Southampton & Norwich can all tell you about that.

There's every need for this. We're being bum f*cked by McCabe and most of us can see it. Non of the above clubs were or have been. All their chairman invested in the squad hence their rise up the leagues. Ours is not supportive at all in the actual football side of things. AND, you're in dreamland if you think remaining positive is going to get us anywhere. Things need to be said and done in order to take United forward. McCabe is raping the club.

 

[sitwell]

Things ? Go on tell us.

 

[Balham]

BladeFisher that's a top post. Thanks for clarifying...I don't agree with everything you write but I get the reasons behind it. You're quite right too - the Meadowhall thing was one of the most cringeworth Warnock statements and should have been buried long ago. However, both the "clapper" and "knocker" camps on here - if you can generalise like that - have posters who aren't prepared to listen; neither is worse than the other for that.

sitwell under the "Beckham rule" each team gets two DP slots; this wikipedia link has more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_Player_Rule

 

[Marco Van Barsteward]

Sitters ALWAYS gets defensive if anyone dare criticise the Blades, the players, the manager or anything to do with Sheffield United FC
Unfortunately, I go further back than Sitters and can remember the good times, the great nights, the cup runs, the promotions, the relegations thats all part of being a Blade - but it's here and now not 1961 or 2003 it's 2013 and we are in a Pub League, a team full of has beens, never has beens or never going to be a been, a weak lilly-livered manager who hasn't got a clue how to motivate the team, a chairman who tells lies and is constantly stripping the club of any assets left and we are supposed to be pleased????
Get real Sitters, stop acting like a spoilt Wednesdayite in I'm a bigger blade than you, I've watched them for over 40 years, I know best etc etc - Grow Up it's not big, not clever any idiot can spout rubbish -if I wanted to listen to that claptrap I would visit S6 now and again
We are in the shit and I for one care about it - Because I don't go around coming out with 'Support the Blades in everything they do because they are Sheffield United FC - thats all that matters!
I think we are better than that, we are Blades and Division Three is just not good enough!

Top post. 3rd division football at Bramall Lane is definitely not acceptable.

 

[sitwell]

One mans 'Top Post' is another mans tripe.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Very true JD and when you look at all those clubs they have one thing in common. They bring in a manager and back his vision. They have an ethos, a plan, a method.....we on the other hand have our own type of business model.....sell anything that's worth a few bob.

At BDTBL it's a bit different McCabe brings in a manager and tells him his vision which never appears to have ethos, a plan, any method and then sacks them because he can't do the job properly.
Whilst I do not rate Wilson I do feel for him working for a knobhead like McCabe - but I am sure he is paid handsomely to be a puppet!

 

[Fiery Blade]

One mans 'Top Post' is another mans tripe.

Is that with or without onions Sitters?

 

[mattbianco1]

Forgive me but, they have a wage cap in Canadian football same as MLS so any team with a 'Star' player on mega contracts had to be supplemented by the rest of the team that played for very modest wages ie average run of the mill players - so I think you will find many players claiming they played in the same team as Henry, Miller, Beckham etc - here theywould be hard pressed to get a game with Worksop Town!

Not sure you understand the MLS salary cap rule or not. I'll help explain just so you do with a bit of copy and pasting (main bits are in bold).

A team's roster can be made up of up to 30 players. They are eligible to be selected to the 18-player team for each game.

• The salary cap will be $2,810,000 per team, not counting the extra salary of designated players. Players in the first 20 roster spots will count against the cap
• The maximum salary for any one player is $350,000.
• A designated player counts $350,000 against a team's cap. However, if a player joins his team in the middle of the season, the charge against the budget will be $175,000.
• Players who are in the roster spots from 21-30 will not count against a team's cap. They will be known as off-budget players. Generation adidas players are off-budget players and not counted against the cap.

If you click the following link you will find a list of designated players or "STAR" players as you call them.
http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/current-designated-players
When on that link if you press CTRL + F then type Robson.... i think you know what i'm getting at

 

[Marco Van Barsteward]

However, there is with SUFC the clapper fraternity who seem to be totally happy with mediocrity. I am not. I am with Fiery and Metal and KenMc, mpjaco who clearly are fed up with this ineptitude. It is pants! I don't expect to be like Chelsea but big club my arse. Getting more like Port Vale and Bradford City every day (except we can't get to a cup final or win a play off).

In my post I think it might well be the "we're more in the clart than we realise" being the truth behind the Blackman sale than anything else. If that is the case, despite his motovational failings DW has my sympathy as I think he is on a hiding to nothing. The jury is out.

I'm not prepared to sit back and watch us get progressively worse, or at least i'm not going to say a turd is a rose or anything like that. I feel sorry for all the people that feast on Mr McCabes bullsh*t butties and dine out on former glories. That's just not me, never has been, never will. I bet these same people support the current government strategies on dealing with the current economic crisis and think cutbacks are the way to go. Well McCabe's been cutting back for years now and look where that's got us. In business as in life you need to speculate to accumulate. You don't win £10 at the bookies without sticking a quid on.

We are in a very big hole i reckon, hence selling players, but whilst ever we're in this division we won't be generating enough income to move forward financially. We're in danger of ending up like Bradford.

 

[mattbianco1]

There's every need for this. We're being bum f*cked by McCabe and most of us can see it. Non of the above clubs were or have been. All their chairman invested in the squad hence their rise up the leagues. Ours is not supportive at all in the actual football side of things. AND, you're in dreamland if you think remaining positive is going to get us anywhere. Things need to be said and done in order to take United forward. McCabe is raping the club.

Southampton were in fucking admin !

 

[FleaPitBlade]

Not sure you understand the MLS salary cap rule or not. I'll help explain just so you do with a bit of copy and pasting (main bits are in bold).

I see Freddy Adu is on that list. WTF happened to him? He was supposed to be the best footballer in the galactic empire by now.

 

[Jon Bon]

HEY...! Why the doom and gloom? Don't forget, we managed to hang on to Harry...

 

[mattbianco1]

I think the issue for most people is not who we've brought in, rather the implication that there would be funds available regardless of whether Blackman goes or not.....when there clearly wasn't.

What we get instead is a loan player, a player on a short term contract and a token bid for a player they knew was never going to be accepted.

I can't confirm this as i don't know the answer or claim to know the answer. But by increasing the turn over by £1.2m in a single swoop will give us an extra £660k to spend on wages will it not?

 

[sitwell]

Is that with or without onions Sitters?

must be without ,no tears here. Shame youve gone too far over because i used to enjoy your posts ,although you need to check your research ,nobody was more anti Blackwell than me when he was manager. As for your new found foghorn disciples ,fuck me

 

[FleaPitBlade]

I can't confirm this as i don't know the answer or claim to know the answer. But by increasing the turn over by £1.2m in a single swoop will give us an extra £660k to spend on wages will it not?

I don't think its as simple as that - I could very well be wrong but I'm sure I read somewhere that a clubs salary cap is based on projected or past years turnover and declared at the start of the season??

 

[SwissBlade]

While you make some good points with the rest of your post, this bit is ridiculous. I'm sure SwissBlade, sitwell and whoever else your veiled comments are aimed at would say that rather than being "clappers" they're just supporting their team.

I try to remain positive about the activities of the club, perhaps too much for some, but I still try.

Despite historical JTW's I also try to remain open minded that the club doesn't want to shaft itself and I remain hopeful that one year things will be different. I don't like to let past history cloud the present. That was then, this is now.

I do buy into the FFP situation, but it shouldn't be the millstone that we say it is.

However, I find this situation overwhelmingly underwhelming and whilst I was trying to stay positive, I'm not sure that last minute deals, picking up scraps on short term loan deals represents good business.

I don't understand why clubs have to wait until the last minute to do business. We knew we wanted 2-3 players, so why not go and make those bids earlier. The news of the rejected bids came through late yesterday evening. Its all a bit daft. Perhaps we expected teams to panic sell in fear of missing out on the cash.

I've said before I'm not wholy disappointed in the sale of Blackman, not replacing him (we don't appear to have done) seems to leave us slightly short of pace and mobility options either on the wing or up front.

Bringing Forte, Robson and Murphy should've been enhancing what we had and perhaps it will be, but I'm unclear whether it will do that.

 

[sitwell]

Surely Murphy is the replacement for Blackman ? Forte as a mobile option up front for Miller ,Robson to compete with Doyle/Macdonald in the middle and Higginbottom to bolster the defence. Maybe i would have wanted higher quality but I am a realist , isnt this what everyone was clamouring for ?

 

[mattbianco1]

Wasn't aware of that Balham - Thanks

Fiery that is part of the problem on here. People spout things when they don't know the facts. I'm not getting at you in particular here so apologies, you're just in the firing line.

You didn't know the rules and regs of the MLS wage cap. I'm not sure you even knew Vancouver played in the MLS?

This is the same for people that winge and moan about McCabe and the finances etc.. They spout things as fact when they don't know the half of it. I don't know this either which is why I refrain from writing things that is an obvious opinion and not fact. If it is my opinion i usually put IMO.

Again, not a direct reply to you but the MLS/Vancouver bit is

 

[blade too long]

we have sold 1 player
released a couple who have never figured as all clubs do
our adversaries at swillsboro let 4/5 first team players go and 3 or 4 others

thats what happens
we actually have more options available , the merits of which we have to wait and see , not condemn out of hand
true we failed again to buy David Villa , but some of us arent barmy enough to think its possible

 

[sitwell]

Thats my point too ,I simply dont understand why people go to the lengths they do or make things up simply to put a negative slant on the club they support. There are enough pigs dingles and all the other fuckers slagging us off without our own fans doing it.

 

[mattbianco1]

Thats my point too ,I simply dont understand why people go to the lengths they do or make things up simply to put a negative slant on the club they support. There are enough pigs dingles and all the other fuckers slagging us off without our own fans doing it.

But if a Pig or Dingle slagged McCabe off to their faces they'd argue back

 

[mattbianco1]

we actually have more options available , the merits of which we have to wait and see

I have explained just that here:

http://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/how-about-welcome-and-good-luck.29138/page-3#post-472104

 

[shreds1975]

I don't think its as simple as that - I could very well be wrong but I'm sure I read somewhere that a clubs salary cap is based on projected or past years turnover and declared at the start of the season??

The forecasts are updated and re-submitted regularly, but still based on a fixed period. This allows for monies from cup runs (we wish), new sponsorship deals and player sales etc to be reflected.

 

[super_pig]

Thats my point too ,I simply dont understand why people go to the lengths they do or make things up simply to put a negative slant on the club they support. There are enough pigs dingles and all the other fuckers slagging us off without our own fans doing it.

freedom of expression mate.. get used to it.
a lot of people died to give you the right.

 

[sitwell]

I understand the how ,its the why .

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

I can't confirm this as i don't know the answer or claim to know the answer. But by increasing the turn over by £1.2m in a single swoop will give us an extra £660k to spend on wages will it not?

I'm not sure how it all works either but based on those figures, the 660k would roughly free up 12,700 a week wages, plus whatever Blackman was on, plus the supposed money McCabe said was available regardless.....please point out any corrections I'm merely speculating like yourself.

However taking all that into account.....we could only afford a loan player and a contract to the end of the season?! Wow.....those two must be on a lot of money!

 

[JohnDenver]

The forecasts are updated and re-submitted regularly, but still based on a fixed period. This allows for monies from cup runs (we wish), new sponsorship deals and player sales etc to be reflected.

Shredds, reading your blog you say:

"wait and see the state of the squad versus Coventry City on Friday before hammering your keyboards or opening your mouth."

Are you going to do a post-deadline verdict? I've not had an Alco style inversion, but I cannot defend McCabe's counterproductive pronouncements, or the strategy that this window revealed.

No stirrings of discontent? Not even a twitch?

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

"We" is Sheffield United. The owner of Sheffield United is therefore classed as "a cunt". You are included in "we" as a fellow fan of SUFC. Hope that's cleared things up?

 

[shreds1975]

Shredds, reading your blog you say:

"wait and see the state of the squad versus Coventry City on Friday before hammering your keyboards or opening your mouth."

Are you going to do a post-deadline verdict? I've not had an Alco style inversion, but I cannot defend McCabe's counterproductive pronouncements, or the strategy that this window revealed.

No stirrings of discontent? Not even a twitch?

Hi JD. I will try and write a postscript over the weekend. Always try and be balanced, but even I got annoyed by some of the statements coming out of the club yesterday, particularly the lunchtime one. The club's PR has been very poor this week, although McCabe grabbing the mic like a drunk Delia Smith everytime he is over must give the Comms dept nightmares.

I don't think weaknesses have been adequately addressed, but I also think it says more about the dire state of or finances than the salary cap per se. The club needs to be honest on that score.