What a fantastic Transfer Window

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Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou said:
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According to these figures we have spent a total of £53.9 million in transfer fees. Awesome. However, when you subtract the £35 million in player sales + £18million Cameron Archer loan fee we are due to be paid back upon relegation (or will pay for itself if we stay up) we have in fact, spent a grand total of 900k from our Premier league revenue.
 



I think it could be argued that other than Ndiaye and the problems at LWB, we have strengthened from last season's team, albeit a bit later than we should have dealt with it.

Souza, T Davies and Hamer are upgrades on Berge and Doyle.

Archer might not be a like for like replacement for Ndiaye but on his stats from last season alone he will score more goals than Ndiaye might have scored for us this season.

Bringing McAtee back fills a void left from last season and I doubt we could have got him a few weeks ago.

Thomas/Larouci (despite the injuries to Lowe and Osborn) give us cover/competition at LWB.

Edit: Add Slimane and Traore who have a lot of potential to be good players to us down the line, hopefully this season given what we have seen from Traore.
 
The transfer dealings makes our squad younger, better than last year, time will tell, on first impressions I would say we are better in central midfield, weaker in attacking midfield and no better at the back as our linch pin Egan is looking weaker. Archer/ Mcburnie who knows, hopefully Archers pedigree holds up and Mcb stays relatively fit.
 
All we've really "lost" is Ndiaye and Berge. One is a potentially generational talent, but he wanted to go, we got a few quid, move on. The other is a lazy luxury player, who has probably had his career fucked by covid.

On the flip side, we've brought in 2 of the best players from the Championship last season in Hamer and Archer. We've also got McAtee back for another year. Got to saty that overall it's a positive. If you take Illi out of the equation, we've strengthened.
 
We haven’t done enough to avoid relegation. Though I do think the team will do better than 3 years ago.
 
South_Stand said:
According to these figures we have spent a total of £53.9 million in transfer fees. Awesome. However, when you subtract the £35 million in player sales + £18million Cameron Archer loan fee we are due to be paid back upon relegation (or will pay for itself if we stay up) we have in fact, spent a grand total of 900k from our Premier league revenue.
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I think its harsh to deduct the Archer fee mate.
Although, even with that we were told our kitty would be well over the reported £20m, when in fact it was pretty much exactly that.
 
South_Stand said:
According to these figures we have spent a total of £53.9 million in transfer fees. Awesome. However, when you subtract the £35 million in player sales + £18million Cameron Archer loan fee we are due to be paid back upon relegation (or will pay for itself if we stay up) we have in fact, spent a grand total of 900k from our Premier league revenue.
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we definitely needed another striker.…

we’re also short on quality back ups, if we get Injuries and that’s highly likely given the past, we’re fooked.

thats not to say the players we’ve bought aren’t quality.
 
We lack the means to impose ourselves physically at both ends of the pitch.

In defence , Egan has looked poor recently and Robbo just isn't tall enough - it will be intriguing to see if the aerial threat of Beto gives Trusty a start tomorrow.
In attack , McB is injury prone & Osula is slightly too young. Archer is small and needed Akpom last season - we should have recruited an experienced tall powerful striker and let Osula out on loan.

We have seen how players of Osborne's size get brushed aside in the PL and then we spend money on tiny Traore but say he's "not ready".

To stay up we need :
Egan to improve
Trusty to be a tall upgrade on Robbo (otherwise why have we spent £5m ?)
Anel & Egan ever present.
McBurnie to hit form and be ever present (no injuries & NO DAFT BOOKINGS).
McAtee ever present.
Hamer to attack down the right.
Archer not to do a Brewster.

Chances of all those happening and us finishing 17th having chucked away the Palace & Forest games ?
Head says 10-15%

Tomorrow v Toffees is a 6 pointer so let's see if we can do what we couldn't do against Lincoln

The quality isn't quite there so Hecky will know that team-spirit and a game-plan have to carry the day against a team whipped up by Dyche.

Come on you battling Blades
 
Jan Age said:
My opinion is that we’ve raised the overall standard of quality across the pitch whilst lowering it in certain areas.

For me it’s a 50/50 window could have been a lot worse could have been a lot better.

Still painfully light up top which will catch up with us.

Forced to do our business late which will mean it will 7 games in until the starting 11 are settled.
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Just know that McBurnie and Brewster will be injured for good parts of the season. We know Brewster‘s vulnerabilities but McB seems to pick up a variety of injuries.
 
Proper Blade said:
It has been a fucking chaotic window where we've ended up with a weaker strike force and arguably a weaker first choice defence. Midfield, yes, I would say we're stronger with the addition of McAtee.

Then there's the fact we essentially threw the first two games of the season because of the aforementioned fucking chaos.

Oh, and the fact that it's going to take time for an almost completely new midfield and attack to gel. Potentially throwing away another 4/5 games of the season.

I think the squad is looking good now - finally. But I worry we're already going to be adrift by the time they turn from a group of players into a team.
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I’m still traumatised by that Line up against Palace
 
I think as usual, people on here divide into two extremes. It’s either a total disaster and the club is doomed to relegation with less points than Derby. Or it’s a complete success, every move was genius and anyone who finds any fault in it should fuck off to Hillsborough.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. It does seem like it’s been chaotic and it hasn’t always looked like there was a clear plan. The side that started against Palace was concerning and made it seem like maybe we just weren’t going to bother with this season. Having said that, clearly the Prince has a strategy of doing business late he thinks is effective. At the end of the day, McAtee, Archer and Hamer are all signings I think we can be very happy with.

I don’t think people were wrong to be worried, I definitely was. But I think those who said have patience, wait til the end of the window have been justified a bit.

7.5/10
 
Keen Blade said:
We lack the means to impose ourselves physically at both ends of the pitch.

In defence , Egan has looked poor recently and Robbo just isn't tall enough - it will be intriguing to see if the aerial threat of Beto gives Trusty a start tomorrow.
In attack , McB is injury prone & Osula is slightly too young. Archer is small and needed Akpom last season - we should have recruited an experienced tall powerful striker and let Osula out on loan.

We have seen how players of Osborne's size get brushed aside in the PL and then we spend money on tiny Traore but say he's "not ready".

To stay up we need :
Egan to improve
Trusty to be a tall upgrade on Robbo (otherwise why have we spent £5m ?)
Anel & Egan ever present.
McBurnie to hit form and be ever present (no injuries & NO DAFT BOOKINGS).
McAtee ever present.
Hamer to attack down the right.
Archer not to do a Brewster.

Chances of all those happening and us finishing 17th having chucked away the Palace & Forest games ?
Head says 10-15%

Tomorrow v Toffees is a 6 pointer so let's see if we can do what we couldn't do against Lincoln

The quality isn't quite there so Hecky will know that team-spirit and a game-plan have to carry the day against a team whipped up by Dyche.

Come on you battling Blades
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Exactly as I see it too
 
A neutral fan's view has us down as the 13th best team for their transfer window.
 



In fairness i think we would’ve struggled with the team we had before the additions. I think hecky is the problem.

I don’t think we’ve really upgraded the team that much. We’ve been wasteful signing dev players and bought more of the same kind of limited players.

How i see it so far:

  • I still like Hamer and think he has something to offer, definately has quality although so far he’s disappointed me with decision making and being wasteful.
  • We never replaced Ndiaye and we still need to. No flair in this team.
  • Not sold on Souza, some good bits but very passive and drifts around without doing too much. A big downgrade on Berge. Likes to moan at everyone else but himself.
  • Slimane could be good but not seen enough of him
  • Traore not prem quality and with our finances 4m is extremely wasteful on him.
  • Trusty: could be good not seen enough of him.
  • Davies: could be decent when fit. An upgrade on fleck.
  • Archer has ability but never going to have the service until we sort our style of play and midfield.
  • Larouche has ability going forward, not prem quality
  • Thomas not prem quality
  • Mcatee would be decent in a team that play football
 
If we'd added these players to compliment what we had last year it would have been an amazing transfer window, but adding them to replace Ndiaye, Berge and Doyle isn't enough to make up the gap in quality. Should have a competitive Championship team next year though 😔
 
SUFCinks said:
In fairness i think we would’ve struggled with the team we had before the additions. I think hecky is the problem.

I don’t think we’ve really upgraded the team that much. We’ve been wasteful signing dev players and bought more of the same kind of limited players.

How i see it so far:

  • I still like Hamer and think he has something to offer, definately has quality although so far he’s disappointed me with decision making and being wasteful.
  • We never replaced Ndiaye and we still need to. No flair in this team.
  • Not sold on Souza, some good bits but very passive and drifts around without doing too much. A big downgrade on Berge. Likes to moan at everyone else but himself.
  • Slimane could be good but not seen enough of him
  • Traore not prem quality and with our finances 4m is extremely wasteful on him.
  • Trusty: could be good not seen enough of him.
  • Davies: could be decent when fit. An upgrade on fleck.
  • Archer has ability but never going to have the service until we sort our style of play and midfield.
  • Larouche has ability going forward, not prem quality
  • Thomas not prem quality
  • Mcatee would be decent in a team that play football
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Decent summary that
 
Good critique-

We are now amid table championship team-

Replacing Ndiaye impossible- I'd say you would need to fork out 50 million (I think hes that good)- never in a month of Sundays going to happen-

Obviously other players paid their part in promotion be harsh not to say so- but the MAIN REASON was Illy- Goals/ assists/ Defending from front-

Generational talent - will be along time before we see sheers talent and enjoyment like that again- thank God we had 2 seasons..
 
South_Stand said:
According to these figures we have spent a total of £53.9 million in transfer fees. Awesome. However, when you subtract the £35 million in player sales + £18million Cameron Archer loan fee we are due to be paid back upon relegation (or will pay for itself if we stay up) we have in fact, spent a grand total of 900k from our Premier league revenue.
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Which is exactly why there is money in the pot to sack Hecky and his staff and appoint someone else competent to at least see us go down fighting and be able to plan for next season.
 
Swannyblade said:
If we'd added these players to compliment what we had last year it would have been an amazing transfer window, but adding them to replace Ndiaye, Berge and Doyle isn't enough to make up the gap in quality. Should have a competitive Championship team next year though 😔
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That's assuming we keep them all.
 
SUFCinks said:
In fairness i think we would’ve struggled with the team we had before the additions. I think hecky is the problem.

I don’t think we’ve really upgraded the team that much. We’ve been wasteful signing dev players and bought more of the same kind of limited players.

How i see it so far:

  • I still like Hamer and think he has something to offer, definately has quality although so far he’s disappointed me with decision making and being wasteful.
  • We never replaced Ndiaye and we still need to. No flair in this team.
  • Not sold on Souza, some good bits but very passive and drifts around without doing too much. A big downgrade on Berge. Likes to moan at everyone else but himself.
  • Slimane could be good but not seen enough of him
  • Traore not prem quality and with our finances 4m is extremely wasteful on him.
  • Trusty: could be good not seen enough of him.
  • Davies: could be decent when fit. An upgrade on fleck.
  • Archer has ability but never going to have the service until we sort our style of play and midfield.
  • Larouche has ability going forward, not prem quality
  • Thomas not prem quality
  • Mcatee would be decent in a team that play football
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The reason we'd have struggled with the team that got promoted from the championship is... its a championship team, and after all the transfer business of selling our 2 best players.. its a poorer championship team. I'm not sure why people are hellbent on making Hecky the fall guy rather than aiming their frustrations at the Prince.
 
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Fjortoft's Aeroplane said:
The reason we'd have struggled with the team that got promoted from the championship is... its a championship team, and after all the transfer business of selling our 2 best players.. its a poorer championship team. I'm not sure why people are hellbent on making Hecky the fall guy rather than aiming their frustrations at the Prince.
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your right it is a championship side trying to compete in the premier league but hecky doesnt get away scot free for me his tactics are very basic to say the least and his refusal to try anything different is putting his position at the club in jeopardy
 



Glad I pointed out lack of depth upfront, in goal and defence. I was obviously slightly optimistic not including midfield in that.

Fantastic is hilarious munksyb
 
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