What a fantastic Transfer Window

[Houso]

Can't comment on Thomas but I'd be surprised if he can offer anything like what Enda Stevens did in the 19/20 season.

There's some weird takes in here, but using a player's form from 4 seasons ago to suggest that a new player is not an improvement on the previous seasons' is one of the stranger.

 

[coolasanidiot]

Dont disagree. It doesnt fuck me off, I’m just stating that calling it a “fantastic” window given how long we’ve had to wait to scramble around for players in the eleventh hour is disingenuous. It isnt unfair to suggest that blatant mismanagement at the top of the club was a contributing factor towards this.

My feeling at the end of the window is more relief than anything else. We’ve got ourselves out of jail 2 weeks after the season has already started.

Fair response. I'd agree not fantastic- Keeping Ndiaye- buying Doyle, would have been closer to fantastic. But you have to be fair to The Prince who generally gets a good slagging off, the window has been a lot better than we dared expect. And lets face it to get the money we did for Berge given how lacklustre he's been was FANTASTIC.

 

[blade67]

Who of the 17 players are unlikely to sign a new contract if we make an offer? Not very many I would say.

The out of contract players is being blown well out of proportion, there are no Ndiaye or Berge type players with less than 1 year on their contract.

you have to start with how many of those you'd want put an offer in front of. I'd guess that's around 10 or 11. I'd guess we will offer contracts to Wes, Baldock, Bogle, Egan, RND (fitness permitting), McBurnie, Osula and Jebbo as soon as we can. Possibles would include Lowe and Norwood.

I'd guess Davies, Basham, the 2 loan left backs, Fleck, Osborn and Coulibaly will be left waiting till later in the season

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

There's some weird takes in here, but using a player's form from 4 seasons ago to suggest that a new player is not an improvement on the previous seasons' is one of the stranger.

I'm demonstrating the standard we should be aspiring to if we want to stay up. Marginally improving but still not being good enough to stay up is fairly pointless.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Wes, Egan and Baldock - I’d be amazed if they go anywhere at their ages. If we make a fair offer, they’ll sign it.

At the end of a contract with us they can probably make a lot of money on a 'last pay day' type deal. All the right age to be doing just that and we are notorious for not getting people signed up quickly enough and for enough money. Even JLT, Fleck and Osborn thought twice before signing. Baldock, Egan and Wes are actually good.

 

[Houso]

I'm demonstrating the standard we should be aspiring to if we want to stay up.

You're demonstrating mental gymnastics to not compare our left back of this season to the one of last. You compare this season to the previous in the rest of your post, why swap for that position?

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

You're demonstrating mental gymnastics to not compare our left back of this season to the one of last. You compare this season to the previous in the rest of your post, why swap for that position?

I was trying to be kind to Thomas in honesty. Truth is the feedback is he's no wingback and it's doubtful he'll suit our system and may be a disaster.

 

[1066blade]

McTee deal not done yet, hit 'complications'

 

[BettingBlade]

Fair response. I'd agree not fantastic- Keeping Ndiaye- buying Doyle, would have been closer to fantastic. But you have to be fair to The Prince who generally gets a good slagging off, the window has been a lot better than we dared expect. And lets face it to get the money we did for Berge given how lacklustre he's been was FANTASTIC.

Its ended better than I thought it would have the week before the season started, no question about that. The Prince has always been fair with managers in terms of what we can afford. If we’ve got it available then generally we will spend it.

In a way, it’s to his detriment like when he let Wilder free with the millions and we didnt get great value for money on a lot of players that year. We’re probably still feeling the affects of that naivety really. I’d also like us to be a lot more proactive in terms of contracts moving forward, however, I appreciate that there are a lot of moving factors in that also.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

You're demonstrating mental gymnastics to not compare our left back of this season to the one of last. You compare this season to the previous in the rest of your post, why swap for that position?

Comparing to the left back we had the last time we competed well in the Prem is reasonable when we're discussing whether it's been a 'fantastic' transfer window.

 

[coolasanidiot]

I was trying to be kind to Thomas in honesty. Truth is the feedback is he's no wingback and it's doubtful he'll suit our system and may be a disaster.

Fuck the feedback it's all fanbased fickle nonsense. Young tenacious defender - Hecky & Co bring out the best him who knows- lets see him ourselves and judge.

You never know he might flourish and be fantastic here, better to hold that thought than reading nonsense reviews from idiots.

Very very rarely when a player switches do you hear very much more than 'he's dogshit'

 

[YES Blade]

At the end of a contract with us they can probably make a lot of money on a 'last pay day' type deal. All the right age to be doing just that and we are notorious for not getting people signed up quickly enough and for enough money. Even JLT, Fleck and Osborn thought twice before signing. Baldock, Egan and Wes are actually good.

Egan and Baldock will be 31 and Wes will be 33, they’re getting to an age where they’ll need to be replaced regardless.

I can’t imagine there will be a massive queue of clubs trying to sign them and doubt there will be many clubs (if any) bigger than us trying to sign them. I’m ok either way with what the club decides for those 3, e.g. new contract now or end of season.

I just don’t see why it’s even a point worth raising, we have more power in this situation than the players. It’s completely different to the Ndiaye situation where he had us by the bollocks.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Should Wes get injured or/and suspended.
How would you rate this TW then?

 

[Swannyblade]

Who was unproven at this level. Who is struggling for Marseille currently.

He was along the best players I've watched play for us in my lifetime, but too many are of the belief that he was a banker for a game changer at this level. I'd argue that selling him and Berge, thereby allowing us to bring in Hamer, Vini and Archer gives us more of a chance of survival. Not to mention the others we've brought in that have added to our depth.

I disagree with you. I'm happy with the signings given the circumstances but I don't think we've replaced the quality lost with Ndiaye.
Ndiaye would have been fine in the Prem. He'd have been playing in his preferred position, in a system built around his strengths and in familiar surroundings under a coach who knows him well.
You can't use Marseille as an argument against him as it's way too early to judge. He's moved to a different country, been played out of position and put heaps of pressure on himself with it being his boyhood club. I still think he'll come good out there. If he doesn't, I'd be more than happy to have him back with us in the Prem.

 

[Carlton Blade]

To get to here from where the club was on the day Berge was sold is a decent effort. It still feels like there are a few positions where it's going to need some luck and overperformance but staying up was always a long shot.

10% chance of staying up? Goals are going to be at a premium again but, especially in Hamer I think we've signed some players who'll at least be entertaining

 

[ForgeBlade]

If we get McAtee over the line, it's been a decent window I think. Ndiaye wanted out, he wanted to go to Marseille, we got some money for him, and it does seem like Hecky has been allowed to use that money. Berge...has flattered to decieve since he's been here. He divides the fanbase. There is a player in there somewhere, but I think getting £12m for him is decent, since his best performances seem to come about once in every 10 games. We can't afford any passengers.

It seems like we've been prudent. We've not splashed stupid money on unproven players. Hamer and Archer were 2 of the best players in the Championship last season, and that is the market we are shopping in. Hopefully both come good, and will be value for money. Both seem like astute signings for a club in our position.

Trusty...who knows? Not sure why he's not featured in the league yet. Maybe he's not fully match-fit?

Larouci looks like the only dud so far. Seems decent going forward, but looks ropey defensively. Hopefully Thomas can be an upgrade in that position.

 

[Roygbiv]

I think we are now about as good as we were last season. Obviously nobody we could attract would have replaced N'Diaye but if McAtee comes in then the midfield looks better.

I wouldn't say it's been fantastic by any stretch but it looks far healthier than it did when we sold Berge and we should at least compete in most games now. Still think we are far too short up front to stay up though.

 

[BettingBlade]

We're a good deal stronger in midfield. You're understating it significantly.

Up front I think we're arguably better too. Having both Archer and Traore to pick from rather than relying on Ndiaye alone is an improvement.

In defence, being as we've retained everyone and added two stronger left sided options, we're better too.

I dont think I’m understating anything.

Ndiaye tbf, is irreplaceable and quite frankly any striking options without him in it this season renders us weaker in that department compared to the end of last season. We’ve replaced with Archer and Traore who may collectively make us equally as strong, however, neither of them can do what Ndiaye did. I still think we are going to miss someone who can so single handedly carry the ball up the pitch. This idea that not having to ‘rely’ on a player makes us stronger is complete nonsense. Imo of course.

We’ve strengthened the defence depth wise but then again I thought we were pretty sound defensively anyway so happy with that.

It may have been on the way to being fantastic if we’d have been fit and firing for the start of the season, however, quite clearly we werent. That’s why I’m not prepared to agree with how fantastic it was, hence the analogy about us just about being able to shovel the shit just in time for the end of the window.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

I'm not going to thank them yet. Proof is in the pudding and all that.

But I think we're significantly stronger than the end of last season now. Just need them all to gel.

So we should be with us getting promotion to the money league!

We have lost one complete superstar for not very much money whatsoever. I would hardly call that a fantastic window.

Like most transfer windows we probably need time to see if it works but for me we still have no depth in goal or central defence ( Anel is likely Egan's replacement) and our strike force is one of pure potential at this level but only Mcburnie having any real experience of it as we stand at 1.30pm.

 

[Rupicola]

The overall squad has improved since the start of the season. I would still question whether we have enough quality in the team to compete with even the poorer sides. Think we need a few more personally, would have like one more key signing at least. It looks like tomrw is still going to be a struggle without an attacking midfielder.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

Fuck the feedback it's all fanbased fickle nonsense. Young tenacious defender - Hecky & Co bring out the best him who knows- lets see him ourselves and judge.

You never know he might flourish and be fantastic here, better to hold that thought than reading nonsense reviews from idiots.

Very very rarely when a player switches do you hear very much more than 'he's dogshit'

Yeah I'm definitely hoping for the best, just not able to do cartwheels about it at present and definitely he sounds like he offers little in attack.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Egan and Baldock will be 31 and Wes will be 33, they’re getting to an age where they’ll need to be replaced regardless.

I can’t imagine there will be a massive queue of clubs trying to sign them and doubt there will be many clubs (if any) bigger than us trying to sign them. I’m ok either way with what the club decides for those 3, e.g. new contract now or end of season.

I just don’t see why it’s even a point worth raising, we have more power in this situation than the players. It’s completely different to the Ndiaye situation where he had us by the bollocks.

I respect your opinion but I think they are 3 potentially key players in the Championship or PL next season. Even as a sub keeper Wes is worth keeping as we know he's capable. Sharp was effective past 35 in an outfield and mobile role, if Baldock and Egan become Basham type squad players after this season it wouldn't be the end of the world, Keepers can be effective well into their mid-30's and beyond.

It's not about 'bigger clubs' it's about clubs who know how to pay proper wages, historically we don't know the market value of wages and miss out on players as a result.

 

[Houso]

Comparing to the left back we had the last time we competed well in the Prem is reasonable when we're discussing whether it's been a 'fantastic' transfer window.

Then why was the rest of the post not comparing to the last time we competed well in the Prem?

 

[Rodley]

I think we are now about as good as we were last season. Obviously nobody we could attract would have replaced N'Diaye but if McAtee comes in then the midfield looks better.

I wouldn't say it's been fantastic by any stretch but it looks far healthier than it did when we sold Berge and we should at least compete in most games now. Still think we are far too short up front to stay up though.

I think we could be better than last year, depending on Hamer, Souza and Archer kicking on. There’s risk there obviously. The problem is we haven’t built we’ve lost and replaced. The timing of everything has been awful and the incoming transfer business is so slow.

We should give it a good lick, I just can’t see us creating enough chances though.

 

[Esteban Cambiasso]

Thank you Prince & Hecky & backroom team

Despite losing Berge & illy, this group of players look great.
We are much stronger whatever the end of season brings.
But I do think that this squad will stay up & will be a great foundation for the future

Fantastic!!! I'd say its the bare minimum required for us not to embarrass ourselves

 

[Snowflake]

Here we go, return of the nutters

When did they leave ?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

The summer transfers of 2021 will take some beating, our best ever transfer window.

in this window some of our key players were retained at the start of summer like Fleck and Osborn which were kind of like new signings.

 

[Tom Bott]

it's too early to be sure.

Thread - End.

 

[Piffle and Tosh]

not usually a doom monger - but lets hope its just a delay with JM and nothing more sinister

do you mean the fax machines broken again ?

 

[Houston_Blade]

Then why was the rest of the post not comparing to the last time we competed well in the Prem?

We've still got Norwood, Fleck, Egan, Baldock, McBurnie and Basham