We've run out of Baki...

[wizadry]

When did that rule come in?

Hopefully, we can carry this rule through, I can’t see it catching on though.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

I don't want to get embroiled in all this or to take sides, but I really don't understand the ' he didn't cost us anything so if he did fuck all, so what '? argument.

If the sole basis of his employment was to bring on board someone with a reputation as a bit of a hard man with international connections, why not give the job to Kenneth Noy.?

He would have been guaranteed to do fuck all given his incarceration, has plenty of useful connections abroad and when it comes to being hard, makes the Baki man look a bit like Lionel Blair.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I don't want to get embroiled in all this or to take sides, but I really don't understand the ' he didn't cost us anything so if he did fuck all, so what '? argument.

If the sole basis of his employment was to bring on board someone with a reputation as a bit of a hard man with international connections, why not give the job to Kenneth Noy.?

He would have been guaranteed to do fuck all given his incarceration, has plenty of useful connections abroad and when it comes to being hard, makes the Baki man look a bit like Lionel Blair.

Oddly not mentioned in the initial job description.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

So. If Mr Baki did not get paid. We should remember the old saying.
If you Pay Peanuts
You get ... someone who wants you listed on his CV so he can use you as a Stepping Stone to what he considers a better job.
Take a step back. When future generations read about Phipps & Baki - they'll have to read it twice - eh, who, whaaaat, errrr, no, eh.

 

[pommpey]

Good effort but once again you’ve fallen short.

Your original argument (as you’ve now changed it) was that he hadn’t achieved anything. You were asking if anyone knew what his targets were. My point was that it doesn’t really matter as we weren’t paying him to do anything. Anything he might have achieved will have been a bonus.

For some strange reason you’ve now moved on to insinuating that we chose to bring him in instead of strengthening the team, which you appear to have no evidence for.

Once again, I’m not sure why you are going so worked up about something so pointless. However, if it makes you feel better I will leave you be.

Again, more lack-of-focus. If you were paying attention, you'd deduce that my track is not 'he cost us nothing and did nothing' (which you are trying to use as justification) more the shitness of announcing we have taken on another 'director' with a seemingly empty portfolio in an area of business we have no requirement for and seemingly no objectives to fulfil. This, at a time when supporters were more wanting news of team strengthening and tactical changes to enable us to get out of the third tier of English football, as it was. I mean, if it straightens out your johnson somewhat that we are giving a chair are the boardroom table to a football hooligan with no apparent reason rather than figuring out the problems on the pitch then fair enough. Doesn't stop the goals flying past the keeper, mind. I guess some are more easily pleased by sops and flannel from the board than real footballing direction. Maybe we should take on Tommy Robinson as foreign player development and scouting director when the laughable numbnuts gets out of chokey. Might make some happy. Might not.

pommpey

 

[I should coco]

I guess some are more easily pleased by sops and flannel from the board than real footballing direction.

Your 'some' fans wouldn't by any chance be related to Pinchy's legions of S2 hoof lovers would they?

Have we cornered the market for straw men in Sunny Sheff?

 

[LJBlade]

Again, more lack-of-focus. If you were paying attention, you'd deduce that my track is not 'he cost us nothing and did nothing' (which you are trying to use as justification) more the shitness of announcing we have taken on another 'director' with a seemingly empty portfolio in an area of business we have no requirement for and seemingly no objectives to fulfil. This, at a time when supporters were more wanting news of team strengthening and tactical changes to enable us to get out of the third tier of English football, as it was. I mean, if it straightens out your johnson somewhat that we are giving a chair are the boardroom table to a football hooligan with no apparent reason rather than figuring out the problems on the pitch then fair enough. Doesn't stop the goals flying past the keeper, mind. I guess some are more easily pleased by sops and flannel from the board than real footballing direction. Maybe we should take on Tommy Robinson as foreign player development and scouting director when the laughable numbnuts gets out of chokey. Might make some happy. Might not.

pommpey

So now you've realised that your original argument was pointless you've moved on to suggest that the real issue is that some people were 'happy clapping' when we announced that we had 'hired' this guy. Explain to me again why that's upsetting you so much.

I'm sure supporters were more wanting of news of team strengthening. Are you suggesting they didn't get that because we 'hired' this guy instead?

Seriously, getting hot and bothered about something as pointless as this can't be doing your health any good.

 

[pommpey]

So now you've realised that your original argument was pointless you've moved on to suggest that the real issue is that some people were 'happy clapping' when we announced that we had 'hired' this guy. Explain to me again why that's upsetting you so much.

I'm sure supporters were more wanting of news of team strengthening. Are you suggesting they didn't get that because we 'hired' this guy instead?

Seriously, getting hot and bothered about something as pointless as this can't be doing your health any good.

Love it. Your tack is that I am irate and hot and bothered. No. I am pointing out, nice and calm like, that the board typically smoke and mirrors the fans with daft arsed appointments such as this and some of us weren't quite so fooled. I'm also amused by your switching of 'the subject' (i.e. the pointless appointment of a former football hoolie into a board position in a made up role) toward my supposed upset about it. If you don't understand the workings of debate and reduce everything to ad hominem then I can't help you. Like most discussions on here it invariably ends up at that stage when the protagonists (in this case you) have zero to contribute. Please feel free to keep ploughing your furrow though.

pommpey

 

[LJBlade]

Love it. Your tack is that I am irate and hot and bothered. No. I am pointing out, nice and calm like, that the board typically smoke and mirrors the fans with daft arsed appointments such as this and some of us weren't quite so fooled. I'm also amused by your switching of 'the subject' (i.e. the pointless appointment of a former football hoolie into a board position in a made up role) toward my supposed upset about it. If you don't understand the workings of debate and reduce everything to ad hominem then I can't help you. Like most discussions on here it invariably ends up at that stage when the protagonists (in this case you) have zero to contribute. Please feel free to keep ploughing your furrow though.

pommpey

You're doing a very good job of showing that this subject isn't bothering you, honest.

You started by asking what the guy had achieved. I asked why it mattered and you were unable to provide an answer. You've now moved onto this whole 'smoke and mirrors' argument and you've suggested that the problem was that people had gotten all 'happy clappy' (your exact words) over his appointment. I'll ask again, seeing as you ignored it last time. What's the problem if people were happy about it? Why does that bother you so much?

On the subject of 'smoke and mirrors'. I fully agreed that at the time the fans would have preferred to have heard news of improvements to the team. I'll ask again, seeing as you ignored it last time, did we hire this guy instead of getting improvements to the team? Did we hire this guy instead of signing the defender that you mentioned earlier?

I find it hilarious that i'm being told I don't understand the workings of debate by someone who ignores simple questions and moves the goal posts whenever they feel like it. Something you do have previous for.

Anyway, i'm done playing with you. Feel free to once again ignore the questions I've asked.

 

[Sean Thornton]

So. If Mr Baki did not get paid. We should remember the old saying.
If you Pay Peanuts
You get ... someone who wants you listed on his CV so he can use you as a Stepping Stone to what he considers a better job.
Take a step back. When future generations read about Phipps & Baki - they'll have to read it twice - eh, who, whaaaat, errrr, no, eh.

Yet no one seems that interested in what the Princes other advisors, and indeed his son when he was there, bring to the game.

 

[Dkc]

Hang on, didn't Baki help set up that friendly with Fernerbache? The one where all the flares were set off?

 

[Dkc]

Yet no one seems that interested in what the Princes other advisors, and indeed his son when he was there, bring to the game.

Go on then. Apart from the Prince's dosh, what else?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Go on then. Apart from the Prince's dosh, what else?

The clue is in the word advisors. Only Baki seems to have got people's backs up. No one else, inc the McCabe board members have similar questions raised.

 

[FriethBlade]

Hang on, didn't Baki help set up that friendly with Fernerbache? The one where all the flares were set off?

He did indeed...and he walked down the side of the pitch to remonstrate with them when the flares were thrown

 

[Dkc]

He did indeed...and he walked down the side of the pitch to remonstrate with them when the flares were thrown

To be fair they did almost set the BL Upper on fire.

 

[Sean Thornton]

To be fair they did almost set the BL Upper on fire.

They didn't though did they

 

[I should coco]

No one else, inc the McCabe board members have similar questions raised.

You would say that, wouldn't you, Scott?

 

[Sean Thornton]

You would say that, wouldn't you, Scott?

Chris and Alan are waiting for their cup of tea Si.....

 

[blade789]

Was it Liverpool? Announced UK pre season this time...

No mate. The club has already been mentioned on the thread (not Wednesday!). It's 100% happening as well.

 

[I should coco]

Chris and Alan are waiting for their cup of tea Si.....

Remind me again.

Do we use Lapsang Souchong for them or do they get the special builder's tea that daddy buys? Do you want your Mickey Mouse cup of your favourite Ovaltine or you pretending to be a grown up?

 

[pommpey]

You're doing a very good job of showing that this subject isn't bothering you, honest.

Ta.

You started by asking what the guy had achieved. I asked why it mattered and you were unable to provide an answer. You've now moved onto this whole 'smoke and mirrors' argument and you've suggested that the problem was that people had gotten all 'happy clappy' (your exact words) over his appointment. I'll ask again, seeing as you ignored it last time. What's the problem if people were happy about it? Why does that bother you so much?

Well, here's one for ya (which you didn't answer). What has he achieved? The point of all this being, as I was so wonderfully 'owned' by Baki with his so-conclusive tweet that he was paid nowt for his nowt-services, why were people so bone-hard about his appointment and not asking 'why'? Ah. My bad. Because it's McCabe, innit? I see now.

On the subject of 'smoke and mirrors'. I fully agreed that at the time the fans would have preferred to have heard news of improvements to the team. I'll ask again, seeing as you ignored it last time, did we hire this guy instead of getting improvements to the team? Did we hire this guy instead of signing the defender that you mentioned earlier?

Now its you conflating. Pay attention, please. If needed I'll do sign language or summat. My point is rather than release a pisspoor trumpeting of an appointment where it was clear there was no outcome, what exactly was the board's priority back then? Hiring HRH's cabal of inner-circle chums or addressing the real problem, our enduring struggle to get out of division one. Maybe you can answer that because, y'know ... you seem to know it all.

I find it hilarious that i'm being told I don't understand the workings of debate by someone who ignores simple questions and moves the goal posts whenever they feel like it. Something you do have previous for.

An S24SU Pot/Kettle/Black' moment if ever I saw one.

Anyway, i'm done playing with you. Feel free to once again ignore the questions I've asked.

you're not playing. You are making a rather shit attempt to personalise the argument without providing any refuting comments. Keep up the good work, eh?

pommpey

 

[Sean Thornton]

Remind me again.

Do we use Lapsang Souchong for them or do they get the special builder's tea that daddy buys? Do you want your Mickey Mouse cup of your favourite Ovaltine or you pretending to be a grown up?

Sorry, just back from Hooters with Dad. What were you saying?

 

[BushBlade]

Sorry, just back from Hooters with Dad. What were you saying?

Aye, Kev loves tits.

(That’s a Glynn Hodges cross, I’ll leave someone else to tap it in).

 

[I should coco]

That’s a Glynn Hodges cross, I’ll leave someone else to tap it in

The ref has just blown.
Hodgy put in an inch perfect cross but has now gone over and twatted the lino for no obvious reason .

It's the Bladesway...

 

[Grappler]

I know you work for a US corporation, but 'practise'!

Luckily for you I was first to spot this, or the grammar police would have given you a right good kicking. Just accept a mild ticking off and buy me a beer next time you see me.

I'll gladly buy you a beer, but am off to the US on Friday for a week.......(seriously)