Match Thread West Bromwich Albion vs Sheffield United - 28 November 2020

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EPL Week 10 - Saturday 28th November 2020 - The Hawthornes​

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Referee: Mike Dean
Assistant Referee: Darren Cann
Assistant Referee: Mark Scholes
Fourth Official: Gavin Ward
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[bromtom]

We lost 1-0 to a Championship team which will get relegated. They looked like a mid0table Championship team tonight as well. Fair play though, Parreira and Gallagher are two young quality players.

We started off strongly in the first half, missed a few half chances and then let them into the game. They then dominated for a while. We again started strongly second half, let them in for a bit and then were the stronger team.

In saying that, we let West fucking Brom have 17 chances and we're a defensive team. Yes, we had more, but that's a worrying statin itself.

Ramsdale - 5.5- Made one stunning low save from a header. Made another good save as well. But shot stopping is the easiest part of football. I'm a great shot stopper. The rest of my game is shit (although I can catch better than our keeper). He dropped a piss easy cross and looked like he was out of his league for much of the game. Poor communication, He's a big lad. He needs to impose himself. Take people out. He doesn't show any confidence or belief to me. I don't believe he's going to catch a cross or get to a ball. He needs to do a lot better than this. He's basically George Long at the moment. Without the grief George had to take for 90 minutes from our fans. If we had fans in the ground I think he'd be gone tbh. Being a keeper is all about belief. You have to believe in yourself. He doesn't.
Lowe - 5 - clumsy, late, stupid decisions. Yeah, yeah, puts a couple of decent crosses in. Not hard when you're ignoring your defensive duties. Looks like a Derby player
Bryan - 3 - Is this lad a footballer or a future contestant for I'm a Celebrity? He looks like a small child trying to play adult. Easy outplayed and outthought by Championship level West Brom players. Doesn't know what he's doing. You would think training every day for two years would give him a clue?
Egan - 5.5 - Shouted a lot at every one but did some impressive fuck ups himself. Lost the ball and they should have scored. Made some good tackles and blocks but was far too often out of position and went too ground far too often.
Basham -4 - Legs on back to front. Looked like a donkey.
Baldock 5.5 - He often doesn't know what he's doing in attacking parts of the field. He's like a Duracell bunny, just keeps running and running and running, regardless iff that's a good idea or not. Managed to fuck up an open goal in a way I wouldn't have thought possible. Still, often our best threat, which speaks volumes really.
Norwood - 2 - The worst performance by any Blades player in the Premier League. Made Kean Bryan look like Zico. slow, sloppy, can't go with runners, doesn't know what's around him, points a fair bit.
Fleck - 6 - Started really well. Was getting further forward than normal and offering an outlook down the wing. He faded in the middle third but stronger again towards the end. Still not great but relatively speaking Pele
Berge - 5 - At his worst slow and ponderous. Gave the ball away because he was being far too casual and slack on several occasions. When he can be bothered, he's our best midfielder. This being bothered lark seems to be less every game. Looks to go backwards far too often and shirks responsibility too. Hit the bloody ball ffs
McBurnie - 5 - Despite all his attempts on social media to fuck a slapper, I doubt he'd be able to get it in a whole, let alone the right one. Looks at his best when coming deep in the McGoldrick role and linking up play. One of our best players second half. Won a lot of headers, but seemed less interested in where the ball was going than winning eh header. I think he's a good player but he's shooting and heading like a lower league striker. Get it on target. Doesn't wash in the Premier League and Johnson's a good keeper. Not hitting the corners. Too easy for any keeper at any level tbh
Burke - 6 - The lad is not a striker - simple as. Remember Matt Done? He is our Premier League Matt Done. He works really hard closing people down. Put himself about. He makes a lot of runs. He's great at going down the side of players. But all these things are skills of a winger. He's not a striker. It's as clear as day. I like the lad. I like his attitude and what he brings but he's not a striker. Why did we swap a non-striker for a non-striker? (albeit the one we swapped has scored more goals this season than our one has in years.)

Brewster - 6 - Lad put a shift in and set up our best chance. Also had a good shot from outside the box. Best game he's played for us. When the chips came down though, he was wanting.
Lundstram - 6 - Much better game from him. Put a quality cross in and looked a lot more up for it. Earned a start for me.
Mousset - 5 - Missed a guilt edge chance but whilst looking fairly lively also kept letting the ball bounce off him.

Wilder - 3 - Shocking tbh. Didn't stop Gallagher being free at the edge of the box for every corner. Schoolboy error. Looks completely out of his depth at the moment. Last season you saw him shouting and getting angry and looking up for it. He just looks defeated. All he does is make the same changed every game and they never work. Needs to pull his socks up.

West Brom. Looks like a mid-table Championship side. They'll go down. Pereira is a quality player and looked a class above. Gallagher is also one who will be quality in a couple of years. Why we didn't try and sign him, who knows.

Bryan was made to look poor at LCB by Barnet.

He actually looked decent in preseason at LWB but he's always looked like he's playing FIFA on dial up at CB.

So far behind everything that's happening it'd be hilarious if he wasn't our player.

I'd have rather geriatric Jags at LCB for a game and Bryan at LWB over Lowe. I would put Osborn at LWB but I can only assume he murdered Wilder's cat and brought it to Shirecliffe for his pack up, he must've otherwise why isn't he playing?

 

[Silent Blade]

???

You said "Not normally your style that Silent" as if you know me personally. I dont think you do as I dont know who you are apart from your pseudonym

 

[bromtom]

From Moose



Let's hope he's right.

 

[Lane Ender]

You said "Not normally your style that Silent" as if you know me personally. I dont think you do as I dont know who you are apart from your pseudonym

What I was implying is you don’t get involved in bile/confrontation

 

[west_yorks_blade]

We lost 1-0 to a Championship team which will get relegated. They looked like a mid0table Championship team tonight as well. Fair play though, Parreira and Gallagher are two young quality players.

We started off strongly in the first half, missed a few half chances and then let them into the game. They then dominated for a while. We again started strongly second half, let them in for a bit and then were the stronger team.

In saying that, we let West fucking Brom have 17 chances and we're a defensive team. Yes, we had more, but that's a worrying statin itself.

Ramsdale - 5.5- Made one stunning low save from a header. Made another good save as well. But shot stopping is the easiest part of football. I'm a great shot stopper. The rest of my game is shit (although I can catch better than our keeper). He dropped a piss easy cross and looked like he was out of his league for much of the game. Poor communication, He's a big lad. He needs to impose himself. Take people out. He doesn't show any confidence or belief to me. I don't believe he's going to catch a cross or get to a ball. He needs to do a lot better than this. He's basically George Long at the moment. Without the grief George had to take for 90 minutes from our fans. If we had fans in the ground I think he'd be gone tbh. Being a keeper is all about belief. You have to believe in yourself. He doesn't.
Lowe - 5 - clumsy, late, stupid decisions. Yeah, yeah, puts a couple of decent crosses in. Not hard when you're ignoring your defensive duties. Looks like a Derby player
Bryan - 3 - Is this lad a footballer or a future contestant for I'm a Celebrity? He looks like a small child trying to play adult. Easy outplayed and outthought by Championship level West Brom players. Doesn't know what he's doing. You would think training every day for two years would give him a clue?
Egan - 5.5 - Shouted a lot at every one but did some impressive fuck ups himself. Lost the ball and they should have scored. Made some good tackles and blocks but was far too often out of position and went too ground far too often.
Basham -4 - Legs on back to front. Looked like a donkey.
Baldock 5.5 - He often doesn't know what he's doing in attacking parts of the field. He's like a Duracell bunny, just keeps running and running and running, regardless iff that's a good idea or not. Managed to fuck up an open goal in a way I wouldn't have thought possible. Still, often our best threat, which speaks volumes really.
Norwood - 2 - The worst performance by any Blades player in the Premier League. Made Kean Bryan look like Zico. slow, sloppy, can't go with runners, doesn't know what's around him, points a fair bit.
Fleck - 6 - Started really well. Was getting further forward than normal and offering an outlook down the wing. He faded in the middle third but stronger again towards the end. Still not great but relatively speaking Pele
Berge - 5 - At his worst slow and ponderous. Gave the ball away because he was being far too casual and slack on several occasions. When he can be bothered, he's our best midfielder. This being bothered lark seems to be less every game. Looks to go backwards far too often and shirks responsibility too. Hit the bloody ball ffs
McBurnie - 5 - Despite all his attempts on social media to fuck a slapper, I doubt he'd be able to get it in a whole, let alone the right one. Looks at his best when coming deep in the McGoldrick role and linking up play. One of our best players second half. Won a lot of headers, but seemed less interested in where the ball was going than winning eh header. I think he's a good player but he's shooting and heading like a lower league striker. Get it on target. Doesn't wash in the Premier League and Johnson's a good keeper. Not hitting the corners. Too easy for any keeper at any level tbh
Burke - 6 - The lad is not a striker - simple as. Remember Matt Done? He is our Premier League Matt Done. He works really hard closing people down. Put himself about. He makes a lot of runs. He's great at going down the side of players. But all these things are skills of a winger. He's not a striker. It's as clear as day. I like the lad. I like his attitude and what he brings but he's not a striker. Why did we swap a non-striker for a non-striker? (albeit the one we swapped has scored more goals this season than our one has in years.)

Brewster - 6 - Lad put a shift in and set up our best chance. Also had a good shot from outside the box. Best game he's played for us. When the chips came down though, he was wanting.
Lundstram - 6 - Much better game from him. Put a quality cross in and looked a lot more up for it. Earned a start for me.
Mousset - 5 - Missed a guilt edge chance but whilst looking fairly lively also kept letting the ball bounce off him.

Wilder - 3 - Shocking tbh. Didn't stop Gallagher being free at the edge of the box for every corner. Schoolboy error. Looks completely out of his depth at the moment. Last season you saw him shouting and getting angry and looking up for it. He just looks defeated. All he does is make the same changed every game and they never work. Needs to pull his socks up.

West Brom. Looks like a mid-table Championship side. They'll go down. Pereira is a quality player and looked a class above. Gallagher is also one who will be quality in a couple of years. Why we didn't try and sign him, who knows.

Regrettably, hard to disagree with your analysis or ratings, although I'd have given Berge a 3. One of many pups we have been sold.

 

[ScoobBlade]

Big Sam.

The worrying thing is there will be some that genuinely think this

 

[Silent Blade]

What I was implying is you don’t get involved in bile/confrontation

Oh, ok. Repetitive pricks do wind me up

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I'm rapidly losing heart.
I don't see us beating West Brom. They have a few good attacking players so it's almost inevitable they will score against us.
We, on the otherhand, don't. We're also incapable of scoring twice, making victory almost impossible.

I think they'll beat us. 1-0.

All getting a bit predictable isn't it?

Even I wouldn't have guessed that we'd miss that many chances though. A lot of them sitters.

I'm not sure that we're going to recover well from last night, I've a feeling that loss - & the manner of it - will do a lot of damage & the margins will start increasing.
I've been asking myself, hypothetically, what would have to happen for Wilder to be sacked. Prince Abdullah said prior to the season he wouldn't shy away from big decisions & (almost jokingly) referenced "were we to lose 10 games in a row..."
Well, we're well into those waters now. The lads showed a fair bit of heart last night, but once that goes it will be time for him to go. I think it could happen before Christmas to be honest. Really sad how all of this is unravelling. We're becoming a major laughing stock.

 

[Lane Ender]

Oh, ok. Repetitive pricks do wind me up

I got into trouble on here in the dark years under another guise don’t get involved these days

 

[Hague Blade]

Wilder is to blame for everything that's happened since he arrived here - good or bad

That's the way it works

Spot on blade67 - too much credit for the good times, too much blame in the bad times. That is indeed how it works for managers. And if we realise it, Wilder will know it too.