We ARE the best side in this division.

[beatific blade]

What's Kevin Blackwell doing at the moment?

He's Warnock's little bitch at Cardiff.

"Assistant Manager," that is.

 

[Guesty]

But he got us to the play-offs with his football that was designed to 'win points'
Only trouble was, nobody really enjoyed watching it, despite being happy accumulating the points

I agree that style and entertainment play a part, but surely you agree that we'd have enjoyed his football a whole of a lot more if we'd been promoted? I think that would have bought him some good will.

 

[DronnieBlade]

But he got us to the play-offs with his football that was designed to 'win points'
Only trouble was, nobody really enjoyed watching it, despite being happy accumulating the points

He inherited the most expensively assembled squad in the clubs entire history.

Some going seeing how player inflation has gone North in the way it has in the last decade.

He decimated the squad. He decimated players confidence.

ANYONE who has the wisdom to play Sharp as a fucking winger, bluntly, doesn’t know his arris from his elbow.

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[kopstander79]

This is the best football I’ve ever seen at the lane the passing and movement is a joy to watch .We miss that cutting edge sometimes and don’t worry defenders with first time crosses . What I’ve also notice is how often
We recycle the ball most teams lump it when nothings on we go back and start again as per our pass stats.
If wilder gets the required personnel in jan we will piss the league we have a style and an identity most teams could only dream of something I thought was impossible 2 years ago long may it continue utb

 

[BladeFisher]

Teams like us and Brentford are great to watch and easy on the eye. However we did not create a single clear chance in the box from open play last night. Same previous game. That's 180 minutes and not one clear chance in open play.

We are a joy to watch but in a fair few games actually never look like scoring despite all the great play. Derby away we were tremendous outside the box but other than Bash scoring we did not create much.

To get on the top 6 we have to address this. Whether by getting some pace so we can break quicker...get it forward quicker and then let our football take over....or by crossing the ball more rather than taking the extra pass as lovely as it looks.

Yep, 5 points from 5 games isn't promotion winning form.

 

[Toronto Blade]

"However we did not create a single clear chance in the box from open play last night".

The ref thought differently, Duffy combined with McGoldrick and was in on goal until he was pulled down a clear chance, that ended in a penalty.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

No we aren't. I further reckon we won't make the play-offs.

On our day, maybe. But it isn't our day often enough.

We’re in danger of becoming the Herol ‘Bomber’ Graham of the championship.

 

[Sean Thornton]

What's Kevin Blackwell doing at the moment?

Being a c*** as usual?

 

[Sean Thornton]

We’re in danger of becoming the Herol ‘Bomber’ Graham of the championship.

British and European champions?

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

We certainly play the most attractive football and when we get the ball on the deck no one in the division is a match for us.

The problem we have is that we’re not quite clinical enough and sometimes don’t have that little bit of expensive quality that can turn a defeat into a draw, a draw into a win. If at least two good chances don’t fall to Billy then we struggle to win. I think we’re two players short of winning the division. Without them we will end up in the playoffs.

Friday night was a perfect example of where a bit of extra quality would have made a 0-0 into a 4-0.

 

[Kev Gee]

Plenty of pundits reckon so.

Plenty of oppos managers as well.

So do I.

If only we could have converted our utter dominance of sides in to a few more points we could be clear and comfy at the top.

But we are on the right path.

In Tufty (and Knill) I trust

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We need a pure finisher to get us over the line.......

Otherwise we may as well have finished mid table at the end of the season.

 

[Bannerman]

This is the best football I’ve ever seen at the lane the passing and movement is a joy to watch .We miss that cutting edge sometimes and don’t worry defenders with first time crosses . What I’ve also notice is how often
We recycle the ball most teams lump it when nothings on we go back and start again as per our pass stats.
If wilder gets the required personnel in jan we will piss the league we have a style and an identity most teams could only dream of something I thought was impossible 2 years ago long may it continue utb

I'm old enough to have watched the John Harris era with Currie,Woodward, Badger, Reece, Hockey etc and have to say that apart from them and the odd moments of limited success with other managers which inevitably ended in disappointment, this current squad assembled by Wilder and Knill is their equal and as good as I've seen.

I just hope that the people who authorise expenditure on team improvement realise that this current management team is the most professional and knowledgeble that we have had in years, and that backing them is the best chance that we have of progressing to the next level.

I'm no fan of the Premier Division but if clubs such as Watford, Bournemouth and Burnley can compete there then there is no reason why we can't, with some committment from the owners.

Our football whilst frustrating at times is a pleasure to watch, and maybe, just maybe, this time we will succeed.

 

[cahill]

Michael Brown said on TV last night that United are better than teams in the Premiership although ne didn't say which ones.
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Half of them even

 

[cahill]

We do play some great football. Dilemma is whether to pay bigg(ish) spondoolicks for a classy striker who will push us into the top two but risk losing team collectivity by paying big bucks as wages to the player or recruit a lesser player who won’t interfere with team spirit but may not be as good.

 

[SteveBlade]

We are the best side in this division at kicking the football to each other nicely.

We're not far away from being the actual best side in the division.

 

[lakedistblade]

Teams like us and Brentford are great to watch and easy on the eye. However we did not create a single clear chance in the box from open play last night. Same previous game. That's 180 minutes and not one clear chance in open play.

We are a joy to watch but in a fair few games actually never look like scoring despite all the great play. Derby away we were tremendous outside the box but other than Bash scoring we did not create much.

To get on the top 6 we have to address this. Whether by getting some pace so we can break quicker...get it forward quicker and then let our football take over....or by crossing the ball more rather than taking the extra pass as lovely as it looks.

Agree with much of this but we did create a chance leading to them giving away the penalty. How different would all this discussion be if we had scored and changed the shape of the remaining 75 min. A lot of comments about being too patient and not shooting enough. Reckon Pro players often resist the moronic shooooooot becuase they know that to win games you need to create a high probability scoring chances instead of just giving up possession that could lead to that chance and a goal kick to opponents

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Yep, 5 points from 5 games isn't promotion winning form.

And 1 in 15 is relegation winning form

 

[Brian Blessed]

WBA are the best team in the division, easily. They've had a little blip recently but I'll be amazed if they dont finish top two. They may not be as swashbuckling as the blades but they create more chances and more importantly they take them.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

British and European champions?

No one likes a smart arse, ST.

 

[South Bucks]

Teams like us and Brentford are great to watch and easy on the eye. However we did not create a single clear chance in the box from open play last night. Same previous game. That's 180 minutes and not one clear chance in open play.

We are a joy to watch but in a fair few games actually never look like scoring despite all the great play. Derby away we were tremendous outside the box but other than Bash scoring we did not create much.

To get on the top 6 we have to address this. Whether by getting some pace so we can break quicker...get it forward quicker and then let our football take over....or by crossing the ball more rather than taking the extra pass as lovely as it looks.

Agree and I'd rather have a few more and earlier efforts on goal and win ugly than all this pretty to watch ineffective stuff. Its like watching Strictly where we get lots of 8's and 9's but ultimately it probably won't count for much nor be remembered a few months from now if we continue like this game after game.

This thread and its title make me squirm with discomfort, its like something on pork talk and its results what count not prettiness.

I just hope we don't have such complacency amongst those running the club and they believe in continuous improvement and as Deadbat usually points out the areas for improvement are crystal clear.

Personally I think we could do a lot better with the squad we already have by playing more threateningly and positively and quicker and having a plan in the final third instead of all this unproductive recycling and going backwards when in good positions or the flashing cross too near the keeper. Working on the weaknesses of our current players like JOC heading the ball over their bar once or twice every game could help a lot. Norwood being the only one who predictably takes free kicks thus making it easy for their defense and keeper to know whats coming.

I find where we are now great progress but intensely frustrating. So near but yet so far and yet the same approach each game.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Agree and I'd rather have a few more and earlier efforts on goal and win ugly than all this pretty to watch ineffective stuff. Its like watching Strictly where we get lots of 8's and 9's but ultimately it probably won't count for much nor be remembered a few months from now if we continue like this game after game.

This thread and its title make me squirm with discomfort, its like something on pork talk and its results what count not prettiness.

I just hope we don't have such complacency amongst those running the club and they believe in continuous improvement and as Deadbat usually points out the areas for improvement are crystal clear.

Personally I think we could do a lot better with the squad we already have by playing more threateningly and positively and quicker and having a plan in the final third instead of all this unproductive recycling and going backwards when in good positions or the flashing cross too near the keeper. Working on the weaknesses of our current players like JOC heading the ball over their bar once or twice every game could help a lot. Norwood being the only one who predictably takes free kicks thus making it easy for their defense and keeper to know whats coming.

I find where we are now great progress but intensely frustrating. So near but yet so far and yet the same approach each game.

Agree 100%. The fact that JOC doesn't get into double figures a season is something that needs working on. He could/should be our aden flint.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

I believe that football is still meant to be Entertainment, & on that basis I would probably agree most weeks, even if the results do not always reflect that.

Not sure I agree there Vic.
For me, sport is about winning.
When we are there being entertained, it needs to be with an end in mind, that of winning games, which means being better at that than the oppo.
I seem to remember a commentator once saying something along the lines of, "Geordies would rather see an entertaining 3-3 draw than a boring 1-0 win"
I thought then that was b*****ks and think it still is now.
We lost 5-4 at home to Fulham last season in a very entertaining game, one in which I would have preferred to have ground out a scrappy 1-0 win!

 

[DronnieBlade]

Not sure I agree there Vic.
For me, sport is about winning.
When we are there being entertained, it needs to be with an end in mind, that of winning games, which means being better at that than the oppo.
I seem to remember a commentator once saying something along the lines of, "Geordies would rather see an entertaining 3-3 draw than a boring 1-0 win"
I thought then that was b*****ks and think it still is now.
We lost 5-4 at home to Fulham last season in a very entertaining game, one in which I would have preferred to have ground out a scrappy 1-0 win!

Entertaining football, and winning football are inextricably linked.

You win to entertain and you entertain to win.

The two are HIGHLY correlated.

The good news is, under Wilder, we do more than our fair share of both

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[nopigfansintown]

If you add the caveat i"n-between both boxes" I'd be inclined to agree with you.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

I further reckon we won't make the play-offs.

Good lad. Automatics it is then

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Hey, first clean sheet this season, it wer wonderful.

How pathetic that them cunts get the first clean sheet away to us.
Fucking pathetic.

 

[Harrisblade]

How pathetic that them cunts get the first clean sheet away to us.
Fucking pathetic.

Have a good cry - you'll feel better afterwards

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

We play the most attractive style of football in the whole division, we just lack the ability to put teams to sword consistently.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

Entertaining football, and winning football are inextricably linked.

You win to entertain and you entertain to win.

The two are HIGHLY correlated.

The good news is, under Wilder, we do more than our fair share of both

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Stop using big words I don't understand DB
Do you agree with me or not?

 

[DronnieBlade]

Stop using big words I don't understand DB
Do you agree with me or not?

Yes.

And no !

You HAVE to accept no team is gonna win all the time.

The judgement call comes in May. The league table, over a marathon 46 game season, rarely lies. But it can happen.

The barometer, IMHO, is consistency of performance levels. This will often dictate results. Play “well”, on a consistent basis, and you won’t be far off.

Look at them lot across the City. Dizzy heights of 6th a few weeks ago. Pretty clear based on plenty I have seen of them that this was completely unsustainable, BASED ON PERFORMANCE LEVELS.

Performance levels are the constant. Winning is a bi product.

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