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One thing I would say about all this media guff is that it’s hard to envisage a situation at any other Premier League club where their manager would be openly linked by the press with clubs in the second and third tiers. It’d be beyond contemplation that a manager would step down from the top tier for any club (outside the top few giants in English football), particularly one that has just got his home town team promoted and whose stock is sky high like Wilder’s. Other P.L. clubs interested maybe but Championship and League One, no way.

So I think we can reasonably ask ourselves ‘What’s different about us?’. Why would the said clubs (if true) think for one minute that they could lure a manager away from the Premier League and in Sunderland’s case back into the dreaded lower leagues? And if (as most think) it’s crap, why are the press and media continuing to spread the rumours when you’d think the news editors would simply kick the journalist’s arses for even proposing such rubbish? Is it because while Wilder and his players stock may have risen, the club’s still seen as an easy touch without true leadership and direction from the top? I suspect that’s the case myself, clubs are just chancing their hands and the media’s making a meal of it.

The owners need to get the ownership sorted, the only stories coming out the Lane right now should be positive ones and they should fill the fans with optimism for the new season but that’s just not been the case. We Blades can laugh stories off as bollox but to be honest, Im finding the whole sorry saga unfolding in London a total embarrassment, and the fact that it’s now spawning other negative offshoots like one this makes things even worse. We should be laughing at the Pork, anticipating some good recruitments and drooling at the prospects of next season in the P.L. right now, not having mega threads about Wilder walking out or Asama Bin Laden’s cash stash. It’s bloody bizarre!

Sorry if it turned into a slight rant guys but better out than in as Mi Grandma used to say. 😁
 

really


does anyone believe this shit
are there people that stupid that follow us

Id be gob smacked if anyone believed it

owls fans tried to devalue wilder last season saying Sunderland in a lower division wanted him
again they try with west brom a league below

surely theres no true blade fan that fucking stupid to give it credence
 
Whatever happens between now and the start of the season, CW has a free hit at being a premier league manager, his reputation won't be affected. If there is no money forthcoming, he'll still get a competitive side out and we'd match Cardiff at worst. At the end of the season, i suspect his loyalities would then be tested. If he is properoly backed, he has the opportunity to be our Shankly, Wenger, Clough or Ferguson and totally reshape the club in his image. Be synonymous with Sheffield United, which I suspect would be an opportunity that he'd struggle to resist.
 
GrayBlade said:
I don’t think that many Blades are really saying that they think Chris could walk are they? Most I know think that he could use the situation (if true) to give the owners nod that there’s urgent work to be done on the pitch, not just in the court room.
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I sincerely hope not Gray. Maybe it's just a bit of Panic.:eek:
 
GrayBlade said:
One thing I would say about all this media guff is that it’s hard to envisage a situation at any other Premier League club where their manager would be openly linked by the press with clubs in the second and third tiers. It’d be beyond contemplation that a manager would step down from the top tier for any club (outside the top few giants in English football), particularly one that has just got his home town team promoted and whose stock is sky high like Wilder’s. Other P.L. clubs interested maybe but Championship and League One, no way.

So I think we can reasonably ask ourselves ‘What’s different about us?’. Why would the said clubs (if true) think for one minute that they could lure a manager away from the Premier League and in Sunderland’s case back into the dreaded lower leagues? And if (as most think) it’s crap, why are the press and media continuing to spread the rumours when you’d think the news editors would simply kick the journalist’s arses for even proposing such rubbish? Is it because while Wilder and his players stock may have risen, the club’s still seen as an easy touch without true leadership and direction from the top? I suspect that’s the case myself, clubs are just chancing their hands and the media’s making a meal of it.

The owners need to get the ownership sorted, the only stories coming out the Lane right now should be positive ones and they should fill the fans with optimism for the new season but that’s just not been the case. We Blades can laugh stories off as bollox but to be honest, Im finding the whole sorry saga unfolding in London a total embarrassment, and the fact that it’s now spawning other negative offshoots like one this makes things even worse. We should be laughing at the Pork, anticipating some good recruitments and drooling at the prospects of next season in the P.L. right now, not having mega threads about Wilder walking out or Asama Bin Laden’s cash stash. It’s bloody bizarre!

Sorry if it turned into a slight rant guys but better out than in as Mi Grandma used to say. 😁
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It's all about how others see the club and how the club projects itself.
Any other club getting promoted from the Championship and this wouldn't even make it as a fake story, it wouldn't even be mentioned because it would be so ludicrous.
But one or two clubs knowing our track record of cashing in on anything that moves feel that it's worth trying it on and the media knowing that there'll always be some pathetic boardroom explosion or another at Bramall Lane will report it.

Wilder's going nowhere, except maybe upwards in a couple of years, he's certainly not going backwards and the only way he'd consider moving sideways will be if the boardroom don't back him and sell from under him...………...So it's ok for a year or two I think
 
i was having a bit of heated debate with my auntie who was certain he was leaving. i said if wilder wasnt a sheff utd fan. people would have a relevant point & i would be worried. somethings are better than money. managing the club he supports in the premier league is priceless. let say in 30yrs & he left what would be his biggest regret in football this right now

why would wilder want to be legend at any other of the 90 clubs. when it means more at 1 club
 
<Phone rings>

<CW> Hello?
<WBA> Hello Chris, this is WBA!
<CW> Oh.....er....hello, well I guess with me appearing on TV a lot since promotion with the Blades, you want my opinion?, well, I didn't see the fight, but I guess Deontay got the knock out in
<WBA" no no, sorry to interrupt Chris, this is not the World Boxing Association, this is West Bromwich Albion"
<CW> Oh OK, sorry, er....what is this call about mate?
<WBA> Well Chris, we would love you to become our new manager!
<CW> sorry?
<WBA> yes Chris, we think you would be perfect as our new manager
<CW> oh..ok..... you know I am a Sheffield lad?, who grew up as a Sheffield United supporter, and became a Sheffield United player, and then became a Sheffield United manager, and you know I have a great managerial record, which includes two promotions in three years with my beloved Sheffield United, out of League One to the Championship and now out of the Premiership to the Premier League, so I am now a Premier League Manager with my boyhood team?
<WBA.> er..........yes
<CW> OK good, glad you understand that, so what was the question again?
<WBA> erm....well in that case...I guess.....er..........so did you think Deaontay's knockout was a good one??
 
What I find truly depressing is that some of our posters are claiming categorically that Wilder had already left to go to Albion. It's as if they want a drama to happen, why I'm unsure, but I wish they'd stop this infantile mischief making. They know who they are, so please, behave and allow our club to prepare for the new season without fibs or exaggerations.
GrayBlade said:
One thing I would say about all this media guff is that it’s hard to envisage a situation at any other Premier League club where their manager would be openly linked by the press with clubs in the second and third tiers. It’d be beyond contemplation that a manager would step down from the top tier for any club (outside the top few giants in English football), particularly one that has just got his home town team promoted and whose stock is sky high like Wilder’s. Other P.L. clubs interested maybe but Championship and League One, no way.

So I think we can reasonably ask ourselves ‘What’s different about us?’. Why would the said clubs (if true) think for one minute that they could lure a manager away from the Premier League and in Sunderland’s case back into the dreaded lower leagues? And if (as most think) it’s crap, why are the press and media continuing to spread the rumours when you’d think the news editors would simply kick the journalist’s arses for even proposing such rubbish? Is it because while Wilder and his players stock may have risen, the club’s still seen as an easy touch without true leadership and direction from the top? I suspect that’s the case myself, clubs are just chancing their hands and the media’s making a meal of it.

The owners need to get the ownership sorted, the only stories coming out the Lane right now should be positive ones and they should fill the fans with optimism for the new season but that’s just not been the case. We Blades can laugh stories off as bollox but to be honest, Im finding the whole sorry saga unfolding in London a total embarrassment, and the fact that it’s now spawning other negative offshoots like one this makes things even worse. We should be laughing at the Pork, anticipating some good recruitments and drooling at the prospects of next season in the P.L. right now, not having mega threads about Wilder walking out or Asama Bin Laden’s cash stash. It’s bloody bizarre!

Sorry if it turned into a slight rant guys but better out than in as Mi Grandma used to say. 😁
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Good read mate, and one point I must add, should Wilder leave, surely the value of the club will diminish in the eyes of a prospective owner? Our future is tied up in Wilder remaining as manager, our success is due to him, not Kev or the Prince, so if he were to go then any fool will realise just how diminished we'll become.
 
KoppedOff said:
Im sorely tempted by Jose Mourinho to be next West Brom manager at 275-1.
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Funny you should say that, but my mates missus sister works in an estate agents in Tipton, she has just sold a 4 bedroom semi to this Portuguese bloke.
 

itsinyerblood said:
What I find truly depressing is that some of our posters are claiming categorically that Wilder had already left to go to Albion. It's as if they want a drama to happen, why I'm unsure, but I wish they'd stop this infantile mischief making. They know who they are, so please, behave and allow our club to prepare for the new season without fibs or exaggerations.


Good read mate, and one point I must add, should Wilder leave, surely the value of the club will diminish in the eyes of a prospective owner? Our future is tied up in Wilder remaining as manager, our success is due to him, not Kev or the Prince, so if he were to go then any fool will realise just how diminished we'll become.
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I think that despite the on going court case, keeping Wilder here is something both owners do agree on and consider that extremely important.
 
Nicolaus_Copernicus said:
Miraculous and fortuitous. He's just finished counting his promotion bonus and he can sit down and sign a new improved deal.

Another thing that stumps me is when CW gets asked a reasonable question by the Radio Sheffield lad, the lad gets slapped down like bitch, but when he gets asked a stupid question on Sky/BBC, he respectfully answers it. I can't for the life of me work out why. :rolleyes: 💷 Remember kids, Warnock's a bastard. ;)
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Don't you think he deserves a new deal for getting us into the PL then?
 
itsinyerblood said:
What I find truly depressing is that some of our posters are claiming categorically that Wilder had already left to go to Albion. It's as if they want a drama to happen, why I'm unsure, but I wish they'd stop this infantile mischief making. They know who they are, so please, behave and allow our club to prepare for the new season without fibs or exaggerations.
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It's because some of our supporters - like many in the press - have got ten weeks to fill before the real action begins. It'll get even crazier around October/November when clubs who have got off to a bad start think a new manager will change things.

West Brom? Do me a favour! They've had a very creditable 8 seasons in the PL but are now back where they (like Stoke) probably belong. They've recently seen near-neighbours Wolves and Villa overtake them and it's hurting.

If CW did go to The Baggies (and persuaded IK and MP to join him...) and WBA didn't storm the Championship, the fans wouldn't be singing 'He's one of our own', it'd be 'Why the fuck did we think this bloke who's only done it in the lower leagues blah, blah...'

Former fans' favourite Darren Moore was soon shown the door when results didn't pan out and CW will know this.
 
itsinyerblood said:
What I find truly depressing is that some of our posters are claiming categorically that Wilder had already left to go to Albion. It's as if they want a drama to happen, why I'm unsure, but I wish they'd stop this infantile mischief making. They know who they are, so please, behave and allow our club to prepare for the new season without fibs or exaggerations.


Good read mate, and one point I must add, should Wilder leave, surely the value of the club will diminish in the eyes of a prospective owner? Our future is tied up in Wilder remaining as manager, our success is due to him, not Kev or the Prince, so if he were to go then any fool will realise just how diminished we'll become.
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Spot on mate and as for your first point, yep some do seem to ‘come alive’ at the slightest whiff of a bad news story. It’s always been the same.
 
GrayBlade said:
Spot on mate and as for your first point, yep some do seem to ‘come alive’ at the slightest whiff of a bad news story. It’s always been the same.
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The most deeply worrying aspect is that one or two actually said that CW had already left the club. Complete bollocks of course, but they spoke as if it was a given and we were managerless. I'm inclined to offer them one-way tickets to anywhere they wish to visit, I doubt we'd miss them.
 
Woodwardfan said:
Since I wrote the above post on 4th May we have learned that the agreed ownership deal between McCabe and the Americans shot up from £80m to £140m on promotion.

There are some big forces at play here.

Bottom club Huddersfield earned £96m from Sky and the P.L. last season. They get 50% of that next season. 40% the season after and 20% the year after, even if they stay down there.

Wilder is a Blade and he is a family man, divorced as well which costs money.

These are very dangerous weeks for our club. It's so SUFC , so utterly ridiculous.

Our current owners have their hands tied while they argue over the share of the cash they just didn't have until we got promoted twice. How much would their 'booty' be worth had Wilder not joined us?

I presume Wilder has received a big bonus already for last season. Of course he deserves a big new salary for next season too, as do his staff and his players. Never mind the pay rises agreed while we were a Championship club; things have changed. Players will watch new players come in on big, higher salaries. They will watch McCabe walk away with all his previously lost money back. The prince will multiply his investment in all likelihood.

We need a big budget for the new campaign and we need it now, not when the court case ends, not in August, and not only £20m peanuts.

I ask myself this - What power, capability, authority, have the current owners to award big new ( performance related) contracts where appropriate. Have they the cash available to fund a proper transfer window, commensurate with the new income levels to give us a fighting chance next season. What stage of next season will any new owners be able to invest in the future?

IMO our owners are fighting each other and that fight is doing untold damage to our club's future. The 'seven hills of S2' are not burning exactly while they fight, but they are not being set alight either.
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The legal machinations at this point last year didn't prevent the club from investing in its staff and first team squad sufficient to mount a successful promotion campaign. With that in mind I see no justifiable reason for hands to be any more tied than they were back then. On the contrary, the sudden influx of major cash should generate more wriggle room not less.
 
itsinyerblood said:
The most deeply worrying aspect is that one or two actually said that CW had already left the club. Complete bollocks of course, but they spoke as if it was a given and we were managerless. I'm inclined to offer them one-way tickets to anywhere they wish to visit, I doubt we'd miss them.
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Yep, it’ll be the ruination of the club if Wilder left now and yet they’ll be the first ones to call for his head if we don’t start next season well. It’s a well worn script that they use, probably based on the fact that negativity gets the attention.
 
guancheblade said:
The legal machinations at this point last year didn't prevent the club from investing in its staff and first team squad sufficient to mount a successful promotion campaign. With that in mind I see no justifiable reason for hands to be any more tied than they were back then. On the contrary, the sudden influx of major cash should generate more wriggle room not less.
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They put in £5m and sold Brooks for £12m.
 
GrayBlade said:
Yep, it’ll be the ruination of the club if Wilder left now and yet they’ll be the first ones to call for his head if we don’t start next season well. It’s a well worn script that they use, probably based on the fact that negativity gets the attention.
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If it's attention they crave why don't they join the armed forces? They'll get all the attention they can handle by way of dodging bullets, but of course, from the cosiness of their armchairs they're never short of an opinion or three. It must be a sad existence that longs for the attention of others, don't get it myself, but I just wish they wouldn't lie about situations so close to home.

As for the coming season, we're bound to suffer defeats, it's the nature of progress I'm afraid. I can recall when Charlton were promoted to the Premiership (I know, a long time ago!), their fans were used to winning in Division 1, but once they met superior footballing talent their losses mounted and of course some of their die-hard fans lost the plot completely. We'll need patience and objectivity. We've done well because we've had stability, and so it will be this coming season. We may surprise a few, but whether we do or don't, please don't imagine that a change in management will change our fortunes dramatically. Wilder and Knill aren't slow to learn or adapt, so getting behind them is key to sustaining our Premiership position
 
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