Watching Leicester last night..

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The all-parliamentary Football group, Inquiry into football governance and particularly debts and the use of administration:


"Administration is the process whereby failed companies which are unable to


meet their financial obligations are given protection from their creditors whilst

being “administered” by an insolvency practitioner until such time as they are

re-structured; this often means that they pay only a fraction of their nonfootball-

related debts. Football related debt must be paid in full if membership

of the leagues is to be maintained in the future. Sporting sanctions (points’

penalties for clubs that enter administration) were introduced by both the

Premier League and Football League because of a perceived abuse of the

administration process. The most notable case was Leicester City who


entered administration in October 2002, wrote off in excess of £30 million of


debt, kept their best players, and were promoted back to the Premier League


at the end of the 2002/2003 season
; whilst promotion rival Nottingham Forest,

who continued to meet the payments on their debt, did not go into

administration, and narrowly avoided promotion, were perceived to have been

disadvantaged as a result. To this extent sporting sanctions represent a

welcome development by demonstrating the willingness of the Football

League and the Premier League to address seriously the problem of poor, or

even opportunistic, financial management practices."


Getting rid of all that debt, not paying creditors what was owed, allowing them to strengthen on the pitch? Sounds very familiar, sounds like something that's happened not a million miles from S2. Quite a few on here laud their on-pitch improvements and player acquisition. Built on similar foundations of financial shenanigans and non-payment of about £30m.

I hope Spurs win the PL.

14 years is a long time to hold a grudge :)
 
Can't understand the euphoria about Leicester -now when Ipswich won the League that was admirable. Leicester are dodgy and throwing money at it.
That was in 1962. A lot of us weren't even born then and up until the seventies you could still win the league without throwing money at it.

Since the reorganisation of the 'Champions' League' it's been more or less the same three sides plus another finishing in the top four. For the last few years it's been four of the same five. Of course people want to see something different.

Personally, I'm not hugely excited but I can see why others are.
 
Nah...we aspire to being cack. Our expectations are that we are cack.
Sadly, we aren't quite able to meet those expectations.
 
Can't understand the euphoria about Leicester -now when Ipswich won the League that was admirable. Leicester are dodgy and throwing money at it.

Only six teams have spent less than Leicester this season. The current bottom three all spent more.

It's remarkable where they are.
 
The Leicester story is beautiful. Bottom to top in 6 months. That just doesn't happen anymore. I'll be right behind them on Saturday when they go to the Etihad.

I so hope they win the PL title, show all the owners which throw stupid money at players that it can be done without going OTT.
 
I hope Spurs win the PL.
Was it them who were done for financial issues, booted out of the cup and heavily fined but later let off while Swindon were religated 2 divisions?

Source Wiki
'Tottenham Hotspur began the season coming to terms with the heaviest punishment ever handed out to an English club. As punishment for financial irregularities committed under the club's previous owners during the 1980s, they were fined £600,000 and were docked 12 league points as well as being banned from the 1994-95 FA Cup. Manager Ossie Ardilesreacted defiantly by adopting an impressive new attacking formation, while chairman Alan Sugar challenged his club's sanctions in court. The fine was later increased to £1.5 million, but the points deduction and FA Cup ban were eventually revoked.'

Therefore they bought 12 points with £900,000
 
Was it them who were done for financial issues, booted out of the cup and heavily fined but later let off while Swindon were religated 2 divisions?

Source Wiki
'Tottenham Hotspur began the season coming to terms with the heaviest punishment ever handed out to an English club. As punishment for financial irregularities committed under the club's previous owners during the 1980s, they were fined £600,000 and were docked 12 league points as well as being banned from the 1994-95 FA Cup. Manager Ossie Ardilesreacted defiantly by adopting an impressive new attacking formation, while chairman Alan Sugar challenged his club's sanctions in court. The fine was later increased to £1.5 million, but the points deduction and FA Cup ban were eventually revoked.'

Therefore they bought 12 points with £900,000

Makes the West Ham punishment seem positively harsh. Don't think it compares to what Leicester did, though in terms of exploiting the administration rules as they were then and sending local businesses to the wall, to make sure they got promoted.
 
Makes the West Ham punishment seem positively harsh. Don't think it compares to what Leicester did, though in terms of exploiting the administration rules as they were then and sending local businesses to the wall, to make sure they got promoted.
Wasn't comparing them to Foxes SEB just pointing out the call for Spurs to win the league a club who has it's own skeletons like Leicester. ;)
 
Makes the West Ham punishment seem positively harsh. Don't think it compares to what Leicester did, though in terms of exploiting the administration rules as they were then and sending local businesses to the wall, to make sure they got promoted.

West Ham got what they deserved, and if anything deserved more. There isn;t a Blade who will not honestly acknowledge that if we would have won more games and had better players to achieve that, we wouldn't have been relegated. Had West Ham played the game and honoured the first incidence of their fraudy playing of the players and won more games than us, then nothing to be seen here - move along please.

But the fact that they were not docked points and relegated still sucks a fat one for me. Let's face it, we'd have been down the following season anyway, but WHU's flagrant, blatant exploitation of any edict of fair play (and the selling of Tevez the next season to Man U added to the ongoing 'What? Us? We did naffin wrong mate!' stance) was one of football's low points for me.

pommpey
 



I wouldn't call Leiceter's style tiki-taka. Sure, that nine-pass move was reminiscent but was fortunate that players were moving and Liverpool's defence were a bit bamboozled by the rapid shifting of the ball.

Leicester press well and force oppositions onto the back foot and when they lose the ball, have the ability to recover quickly and nullify any counter. They also don't have many 'ball watchers' in their defence. Any ball into the box is attacked. And as said, they have the goal machine that is Vardy. I just hope he can transpose that into an England shirt with Harry Kane alongside him.

pommpey
yeah we can all dream about vardy and kane up front with ross barklay in behind. woy will pick fat boy loony though and put vardy on the wing
 
And to think the Leicester fans were expecting a relegation battle this season.

It just goes to show how things can change eh?
This is my thinking. Talk of it taking us years to turn around, bombing out the entire squad, rebuilding from the ground up; it's bollocks. All the evidence points to small changes having big impacts. Blackwell and Clough both achieved incredible U-turns with underachieving teams they inherited. There is quality in our squad. Fans can deny this all they like, and it's understandable given the emotion involved, but quality is evidenced by performances and runs in the past.
 
yeah we can all dream about vardy and kane up front with ross barklay in behind. woy will pick fat boy loony though and put vardy on the wing

Between Dele Alli, Kane, Vardy and Rooney with Barkeley and a.n.other in the No8 role we should be good in attack. It's the supply from the wings that hols the question and the holding midfielders. And the 'John Terry black hole'. Don't say Jags, because I think he shot his bolt when Balotelli did him last time out.

pommpey
 
Purely on a football theme regarding Leicester, they only had 36% possession against Liverpool and I believe that's not unusual. It's great having the majority of possession but ultimately it's what you do with any possession you have IMO
 
Leicester City - relegated within 3 years! YHIHF

When Vardy, Mahrez, Schmeichel, Okazaki and Drinkwater have all been sold in the summer, they'll struggle to get the same quality in, will finish next season about 14th and the following season drop into the relegation places.
 
Purely on a football theme regarding Leicester, they only had 36% possession against Liverpool and I believe that's not unusual. It's great having the majority of possession but ultimately it's what you do with any possession you have IMO
Possession stats were rarely talked about in the Bassett era but I'd guess ours were pretty low. Far more important, as you say, are stats for chances at goal, conversion rates and the like.
I believe it's all about putting it in one end and keeping it out at the other.
 
Leicester City - relegated within 3 years! YHIHF

When Vardy, Mahrez, Schmeichel, Okazaki and Drinkwater have all been sold in the summer, they'll struggle to get the same quality in, will finish next season about 14th and the following season drop into the relegation places.

Thing is, with a high position finish (very possibly Europe) and the attraction of sponsorship and investment, the liklihood of then bombing is greatly reduced. If they qualify for Europe, they will have no need to flog players. If anything, they will have to generate business to bring in revenue to strengthen their squad. WIth a newish, large stadium and ticket prices going up, these income streams will be easily within reach. All they have to do is keep Vardy and Mahrez off the treatment table or invest strength in depth.

Has Vardy been in front of Cattermole at the SoL yet? It's one of those ' ... Vardy beraks away from his marker, but Cattermole closes him down ... oh, my word!" moments you know might happen and Vardy then spends the next five months trying to shit his own kneecap out of his arse..

pommpey
 
Leicester City - relegated within 3 years! YHIHF

When Vardy, Mahrez, Schmeichel, Okazaki and Drinkwater have all been sold in the summer, they'll struggle to get the same quality in, will finish next season about 14th and the following season drop into the relegation places.
I know where you're coming from, and you're probably right, but Leicester have more potential to make the transition into Premier League regulars than typically "unfashionable" clubs. Not too "Northern", decent crowds, good stadium, bit of history...

edit: I watched the US coverage of the game the other night, with Chris Fucking Waddle commentating, and they mentioned a movie production team being there considering a film being made about them. The Premier League is total La-La-Land.
 
Before we get carried away with this Leicester love-in, let's not forget that Vardy is an uber-pig and nearly broke the wonderful record of our own Jimmy Dunne. He even referred to looking forward to breaking a United record, what with him being a pig.

Dunne was the first Irishman to figure prominently in the English League scoring records. In the 1930–31 season he scored 41 league goals for Sheffield United. This became a club record and remains the most league goals scored by an Irishman during a single English League season.

In the 1931–32 season, he scored in 12 consecutive matches. This is the all-time record of consecutive goals scored at the elite level of English football

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Dunne

Nasty little team who snook up in 2003 by cheating and writing off the £30m stadium debt. The bastards even left Filbert Street, scene of my happiest ever football match. Now their main man is a pig and yet we talk of wanting to be like them....

Nah, give me BDTBL every time even with this current crock of shit.

UTB

ISC
 
Was it them who were done for financial issues, booted out of the cup and heavily fined but later let off while Swindon were religated 2 divisions?

Source Wiki
'Tottenham Hotspur began the season coming to terms with the heaviest punishment ever handed out to an English club. As punishment for financial irregularities committed under the club's previous owners during the 1980s, they were fined £600,000 and were docked 12 league points as well as being banned from the 1994-95 FA Cup. Manager Ossie Ardilesreacted defiantly by adopting an impressive new attacking formation, while chairman Alan Sugar challenged his club's sanctions in court. The fine was later increased to £1.5 million, but the points deduction and FA Cup ban were eventually revoked.'

Therefore they bought 12 points with £900,000

I was only a little'un, but were there not rumors at the time that Spurs could be relegated and us reinstated following our relegation?
 
Before we get carried away with this Leicester love-in, let's not forget that Vardy is an uber-pig and nearly broke the wonderful record of our own Jimmy Dunne. He even referred to looking forward to breaking a United record, what with him being a pig.

Dunne was the first Irishman to figure prominently in the English League scoring records. In the 1930–31 season he scored 41 league goals for Sheffield United. This became a club record and remains the most league goals scored by an Irishman during a single English League season.

In the 1931–32 season, he scored in 12 consecutive matches. This is the all-time record of consecutive goals scored at the elite level of English football

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Dunne

Nasty little team who snook up in 2003 by cheating and writing off the £30m stadium debt. The bastards even left Filbert Street, scene of my happiest ever football match. Now their main man is a pig and yet we talk of wanting to be like them....

Nah, give me BDTBL every time even with this current crock of shit.

UTB

ISC
That's what you call letting your hatred get the better of your judgement and ability to look at the bigger picture. I might be alone, but I find it quite easy to separate and isolate the hatred of a particular rival for a moment whilst I make a fair and honest acknowledgement of a club in Leicester that have surpassed all expectation.
 



That's what you call letting your hatred get the better of your judgement and ability to look at the bigger picture.

Yup, that's me bang to rights and no mistake guvn'r.

I might be alone

Yes, I've often thought that. Very perceptive of you.

I find it quite easy to separate and isolate the hatred of a particular rival for a moment whilst I make a fair and honest acknowledgement of a club in Leicester that have surpassed all expectation.

..and that my son is why you are not and never will be; a Blade.

'Fair and honest' my arse. When has that ever mattered?

ISC
 

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