Watch out Burnley are coming

[steve26272]

Read my reply to Irv.

Tell me we deserved to win against Bristol City? Tell me we did not have struggles against Coventry, and we were fortunate to get a point? Play great one week, not so good the next. Irrespective of all the good stuff happening around us, we do fail to dominate some sides.
Our current league position is great, but it is temporary unless we gain greater consistency!

There a skill to been lucky

The difference between winners and mid table is winners take 3points from these games, not 1or 0.

Wasn’t too long ago Burnley were calling Parker to go, Farke is 2 bad results from crowd turning

We weren’t great v Cov or Bristol, but we found a way to get something - likewise Friday - sign of a good team.

 

[JJBlade]

This is flawed thinking. The consortium members might each be perfectly capable of affording the club, but choose to pool the risk with others. We will hardly be the only investment each member makes, we will be part of their portfolio.

Yes, spreading risk is one reason, and obviously each member of the consortium will have other business interests.

But the worry is still there for me, the more people involved the more likely there'll be some disagreements and backbiting between them.

 

[MayorOJC]

Plenty of big players out injured too. Beyer, Worrall, Ramsey, Benson, Tresor... they're a threat

 

[Nick Jansky]

Yes, spreading risk is one reason, and obviously each member of the consortium will have other business interests.

But the worry is still there for me, the more people involved the more likely there'll be some disagreements and backbiting between them.

I would imagine there will be a rock solid agreement between them regarding the money that will go in. I really don’t see that as too much of a problem at all. A well drawn up agreement shouldn’t leave too much room for disagreements as it will contain clauses for resolving any disputes. The day to day running will be in the hands of a CEO operating within a budget, as it is now. It doesn’t operate like a bunch of blokes bickering about it in a pub, some of the consortium members may never actually meet each other.

The only concern for me is whether the money coming in will be enough to give us a chance of sustained PL football. And that would be the same whether it was one owner or a consortium. They will obviously think it is, but that doesn’t mean that it will be.

They will, however, have satisfied the EFL that they can sustain us in the Championship, and that’s a step forward from where we are now.

 

[YES Blade]

We might get away with it in the Championship, but not if we are promoted to the EPL.

No shit! That’s the case with every team in the Championship.

 

[Yewsman]

Us, Burnley and Luton came down from EPL last season and we all have parachute payments. Leeds still have parachute payments as they had more than one year in EPL. They also have wealthy owners I think. No other clubs have parachutes so far as I am aware. Luton seem to have collapsed despite para payments so that leaves us, Burnley and Leeds with the great advantage of the payments and a much bigger budget than every other club in the Division. Last season against the odds Ipswich got promoted without parachutes, Leicester with paras and Soton through play offs leaving Leeds who had come down in 2023. This year it is probably 2 from us, Burnley or Leeds for autos and one in play offs. We all know our track record in play offs! Ugh!

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

Burnley are quite similar to United, concede very few goals but don't freely score loads of goals, whilst Leeds are very creative and attack minded, but are prone to conceding quite easily. Which is the best formula for promotion?


d

Forwards win games, defences win championships.

 

[Charlieblade]

No shit! That’s the case with every team in the Championship.

Some clubs would be happy with a yo-yo reputation. I don’t mind that, but putting the emphasis on youth mixed with experience, gives us an opportunity to go one better, especially if the manager gets it right.

 

[Charlieblade]

There a skill to been lucky

The difference between winners and mid table is winners take 3points from these games, not 1or 0.

Wasn’t too long ago Burnley were calling Parker to go, Farke is 2 bad results from crowd turning

We weren’t great v Cov or Bristol, but we found a way to get something - likewise Friday - sign of a good team.

If it relies on luck as you say, that makes the prospects even scarier! The last thing we need is to be considered a “lucky” club.
I would much prefer us to be considered a hard working professional outfit, at the top of its game. Do you really prefer to gain promotion by the lottery of the play offs, because we are a “lucky” club?
How long will the likes of Ahmedhodzic, Souza, Cooper and Hamer hang around a lucky club?

 

[Charlieblade]

We must be the luckiest team in the league.

Indeed. A lucky club will gain promotion based on luck? How long will that last?

 

[Charlieblade]

All that matters is we are consistently winning and will continue to do so.
Do you watch many Burnley matches to judge their performances?
Stats tell the story that we are better than them- that’s the barometer I’m bothered about.

Except against Leeds, and Boro? Replicate those stats over a season and tell me it’s acceptable! The season could still go down hill from here. Of course we hope not, but our threadbare squad is already creaking at the seams.
Some teams are gaining a reputation for draws, and still sniffing around the play offs. I don’t want that kind of reputation thank you. If this club continues to accept indifferent form, and you consider it success, that’s just fine. It seems our opinions differ.

 

[Shadota]

if you look at the league table they’ve conceded less goals than us.

Well they have got nearly a dozen centre backs to choose from!

They'll be in the mix come the end of the season, but if they get promoted, they'll do nowt while they have Parker in charge.

 

[The Crab]

Unless we go up our Crown Jewels will no longer belong to us. So as much as its a catch 22, we have to go up, the inevitable relegation will also be followed by another promotion challenge.
I’ve seen the future

That’s how I see it. Unless the new owners are next level wealthy (I have my doubts) it will be a case of meet the new boss same as the old boss.

What’s going on in the pitch (remarkable by the way) is despite, not because of what’s going on in the boardroom.

 

[The Crab]

Yes, spreading risk is one reason, and obviously each member of the consortium will have other business interests.

But the worry is still there for me, the more people involved the more likely there'll be some disagreements and backbiting between them.

This is my fear too. I know it’s how things are done these days, but the more you dilute something the weaker it tastes

 

[steve26272]

If it relies on luck as you say, that makes the prospects even scarier! The last thing we need is to be considered a “lucky” club.
I would much prefer us to be considered a hard working professional outfit, at the top of its game. Do you really prefer to gain promotion by the lottery of the play offs, because we are a “lucky” club?
How long will the likes of Ahmedhodzic, Souza, Cooper and Hamer hang around a lucky club?

Think this is eating away at you and your on a bit of a mission to be a mood hoover mate

No team wins owt thro luck alone ffs, but every team that wins summat needs luck along the way, br that the odd decision, injuries, cards, fixture list

Enjoy been top of the league and chill man!

 

[dsr-burnley]

Well they have got nearly a dozen centre backs to choose from!

Seven, but 4 of them are long-term injured. That's why Egan was signed!

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Someone doing well with a good group of players or a good budget doesn't make the achievement any less.

Case in point:
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One of them items is known for being "steaming" the other is a kettle.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Except against Leeds, and Boro? Replicate those stats over a season and tell me it’s acceptable! The season could still go down hill from here. Of course we hope not, but our threadbare squad is already creaking at the seams.
Some teams are gaining a reputation for draws, and still sniffing around the play offs. I don’t want that kind of reputation thank you. If this club continues to accept indifferent form, and you consider it success, that’s just fine. It seems our opinions differ.

Indifferent form?!

 

[mattbianco1]

Whats with the "hoops" come on you trendys tell me.

Expensive, init

 

[Charlieblade]

Indifferent form?!

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Some of those results flattered us. Others, not so much. Our league position reflescts some good results, not quality performances in both halves of a game.

Of course I am delighted to be where we are, but putting together. a string of dominant performances that reflect our results should be the aim surely? It seems to be quite rare that the side outperform the opposition in consecutive games with any consistency. I don’t expect the kind of display we showed against Oxford every game, but I’m sure most supporters felt we were lucky to get results like we did at Bristol City. That equals inconsistency in my book.

We have also beaten teams, whe a draw would have been acceptable considering our overall performance. Maybe that is nit picking, but I don’t think we should deny it and become complacent, just because results end up in our favour.

 

[Tarqs]

Burnley.

Decent defense.
Scoring goals.
Getting consistent results.

Burnley = automatic promotion likely.

Despite me disliking the manager, they seem to be doing well.

Leeds, Boro, and Blades others ….. inconsistent.

So after 18 games, the team currently accumulating 4 more points than Burnley are more inconsistent than Burnley?

 

[Charlieblade]

So after 18 games, the team currently accumulating 4 more points than Burnley are more inconsistent than Burnley?

Accumulating points is great for us. I would prefer the blades to be performing with greater consistency than the league position suggests. If we get promoted, consistency would need to be greater, unless you and others are happy with a reputation as a yo-yo team!

If we, (our team), cannot play well against Leeds, Boro and QPR, surely we can improve on that?

 

[Tarqs]

Accumulating points is great for us. I would prefer the blades to be performing with greater consistency than the league position suggests. If we get promoted, consistency would need to be greater, unless you and others are happy with a reputation as a yo-yo team!

If we, (our team), cannot play well against Leeds, Boro and QPR, surely we can improve on that?

What we do this year, will have absolutely no bearing on what we'll do next season if promoted.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Some of those results flattered us. Others, not so much. Our league position reflescts some good results, not quality performances in both halves of a game.

Of course I am delighted to be where we are, but putting together. a string of dominant performances that reflect our results should be the aim surely? It seems to be quite rare that the side outperform the opposition in consecutive games with any consistency. I don’t expect the kind of display we showed against Oxford every game, but I’m sure most supporters felt we were lucky to get results like we did at Bristol City. That equals inconsistency in my book.

We have also beaten teams, whe a draw would have been acceptable considering our overall performance. Maybe that is nit picking, but I don’t think we should deny it and become complacent, just because results end up in our favour.

Form and performance are separate matters. What you’re saying is that you want us to ‘win better’ I think.

Our form is excellent, our performances are those of a patched up team that is short on numbers in key positions. I’d rather be playing like we are and winning than playing flowing football and not winning.

If you can’t enjoy a few wins when they come, particularly after last season, then you’ll be miserable quite a lot.

 

[DifferentClass]

Expensive, init

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Steal his look for under £20: Black Primark jumper, white matt paint...

 

[WestYorksBlade]

Seriously though why is it always Burnley? Can’t they just fuck off for one season and let us get promoted in peace.

Been pissing me off since 2009

 

[jono_t2000]

Seriously though why is it always Burnley? Can’t they just fuck off for one season and let us get promoted in peace.

Been pissing me off since 2009

It's the ALK Capital sliding doors moment innit.

 

[WestYorksBlade]

It's the ALK Capital sliding doors moment innit.

Suppose so. It’s just being from fairly near there I know how shit the actual town is and have a hard time accepting they’re as successful as they are haha

 

[Charlieblade]

Form and performance are separate matters. What you’re saying is that you want us to ‘win better’ I think.

Our form is excellent, our performances are those of a patched up team that is short on numbers in key positions. I’d rather be playing like we are and winning than playing flowing football and not winning.

If you can’t enjoy a few wins when they come, particularly after last season, then you’ll be miserable quite a lot.

Our form looks excellent if you view the table. In truth it is inconsistent, and I have pointed out poor performance levels against some clubs, which you choose to ignore due to our league position.

Inconsistency is ok if it lasts the season, and we win the league! Pointing this out upsets some supporters then so be it.
The current situation will not last unless our performances improve. The fact we are top points to a weak competition, and most supporters would deny that weakness. I choose to celebrate our victory’s and demand a higher standard from the team we all support.

If that honesty offends some, then I am happy for them to continue ignoring the long term implications of accepting mediocre style and inconsistent performances. That smacks of tunnel vision in favour of short term, unsustainable success.

Am I happy that we top the league. Of course I am. Pointing out that this could so easily backfire on us seems to be a crime, and I am guilty of demanding more.

I raise these obvious flaws because not everyone takes the short term view. It seems that some fans are content for a repeat of last years heartache. This will happen again if we get promoted with a weak underperforming squad. Get away with it in the Championship, but not in the EPL

The big difference, is the opportunity to celebrate the success earned by doing things differently. Using a blend of experience, increasingly reliant on a strong, promising youth academy. Team spirit has benefitted from youth, but performance levels have declined. This opinion of mine may not be shared by all. The only change I am suggesting is to raise regular performance levels to match our league position.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Our form looks excellent if you view the table. In truth it is inconsistent, and I have pointed out poor performance levels against some clubs, which you choose to ignore due to our league position.

Inconsistency is ok if it lasts the season, and we win the league! Pointing this out upsets some supporters then so be it.
The current situation will not last unless our performances improve. The fact we are top points to a weak competition, and most supporters would deny that weakness. I choose to celebrate our victory’s and demand a higher standard from the team we all support.

If that honesty offends some, then I am happy for them to continue ignoring the long term implications of accepting mediocre style and inconsistent performances. That smacks of tunnel vision in favour of short term, unsustainable success.

Am I happy that we top the league. Of course I am. Pointing out that this could so easily backfire on us seems to be a crime, and I am guilty of demanding more.

I raise these obvious flaws because not everyone takes the short term view. It seems that some fans are content for a repeat of last years heartache. This will happen again if we get promoted with a weak underperforming squad. Get away with it in the Championship, but not in the EPL

The big difference, is the opportunity to celebrate the success earned by doing things differently. Using a blend of experience, increasingly reliant on a strong, promising youth academy. Team spirit has benefitted from youth, but performance levels have declined. This opinion of mine may not be shared by all. The only change I am suggesting is to raise regular performance levels to match our league position.

You’re confusing ‘form’ and ‘performance’. Our form is great, our performances aren’t anywhere near free flowing but are effective enough to have us top of the table.

I’m not offended in the slightest, I accept that if we go up and don’t buy a much better team then we’ll be straight back down with a whimper (again) unless we manage another miracle season like the 9th place finish season.

We need to be effective rather than exuberant though, I’d love us to win 6 nil every week and play teams off the park, but the reality of championship football is that it’s rarely the case so I’m happy with where we are and what we’re doing.

1 nil wins every week get us promoted, simple.