Warnock quote about Leeds

[Blade for Sale]

He did turn us around but it took nearly 8 years, playing a very turgid style of football and a turnover of god knows how many players some of whom got bombed out for no apparent reason.

The touchline antics and berating of every match official were totally embarrassing and who can ever forget the Battle of Bramall Lane which was thuggery at its finest and was instigated by the manager.

We did have many highs as well as lows in his time at the club but the PL season was ultimately a xompletet disaster.

When he talks about us nowadays its like he cannot comment in any positive way and he cant wait to praise everybody else - very bizarre.

It might have taken 8 years to get us up but within 3-4 he'd taken us from a basket case on the way to lg1 infront of 17k crowds to both semi finals and the play off final with significantly higher attendances. I don't think it's fair to say he took 8 years to turn us round.

 

[CrookesBlade]

He did turn us around but it took nearly 8 years, playing a very turgid style of football and a turnover of god knows how many players some of whom got bombed out for no apparent reason.

The touchline antics and berating of every match official were totally embarrassing and who can ever forget the Battle of Bramall Lane which was thuggery at its finest and was instigated by the manager.

We did have many highs as well as lows in his time at the club but the PL season was ultimately a xompletet disaster.

When he talks about us nowadays its like he cannot comment in any positive way and he cant wait to praise everybody else - very bizarre.

Was it a complete disaster?

Some memorable wins (albeit all at home) and a few creditable draws. We were certainly competitive that season as per the points tally that would have kept us up any other season (relegated on the finest of margins).

The legacy of the season wasn’t so great though with the parachute payments squandered and a steady decline culminating in relegation to league one.

 

[Selly]

Was it a complete disaster?

Some memorable wins (albeit all at home) and a few creditable draws. We were certainly competitive that season as per the points tally that would have kept us up any other season (relegated on the finest of margins).

The legacy of the season wasn’t so great though with the parachute payments squandered and a steady decline culminating in relegation to league one.

Of course it wasn`t a complete disaster - I can think of two more recent seasons in the PL that could legitimately be described as such. We were the width of a post away from staying up. And that's before you consider how screwed over we were by the decision making around WHU.

What strikes me about NW, as others have said, its all about him. I think he enjoyed being the boyhood Blade that took us back to the PL - unfortunately for him Wilder came along and far surpassed that achievement (by keeping us up) and has a good chance to take us up again. He looks exceptionally jealous of the regard in which Wilder is held by the fanbase.

 

[ATL Recs]

Of course it wasn`t a complete disaster - I can think of two more recent seasons in the PL that could legitimately be described as such. We were the width of a post away from staying up. And that's before you consider how screwed over we were by the decision making around WHU.

What strikes me about NW, as others have said, its all about him. I think he enjoyed being the boyhood Blade that took us back to the PL - unfortunately for him Wilder came along and far surpassed that achievement (by keeping us up) and has a good chance to take us up again. He looks exceptionally jealous of the regard in which Wilder is held by the fanbase.

We were also 10 points better off than WHU in February and we squandered it

 

[Booker4]

As a manager Warnock was great. He made some great signings and we played an exciting brand of football. We achieved a lot worse than very little.

It's only since he left I've found his comments on us or related to us to be very disappointing from someone who is supposed to be a fan of the club. I suspect after he left he was no longer a fan of United in the same way as before after McCabe let him go. His flirting with the Wednesday job was very disappointing but he's just look at it as a challenge rather than as a United fan but no proper Unitedite would want to manage Wednesday.

 

[Blade for Sale]

We were also 10 points better off than WHU in February and we squandered it

We also didn't illegally field 2 world class Argentinian superstars in that period.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

It might have taken 8 years to get us up but within 3-4 he'd taken us from a basket case on the way to lg1 infront of 17k crowds to both semi finals and the play off final with significantly higher attendances. I don't think it's fair to say he took 8 years to turn us round.

Our average attendance in 1999-00 was 13,718.

 

[Shadota]

We also didn't illegally field 2 world class Argentinian superstars in that period.

While this is factual, it's lazy to blame West Ham now, rather than highlighting the fact that we got ourselves into that position by way of being utterly dreadful for much of that season.

For example, we were relegated by a single goal. We missed 3(?) penalties that season that I remember, 2 of which were in the same game.

If Warnock hadn't handled Villa away so horrifically, we would have stayed up.

If we hadn't gone to Arsenal/Chelsea/Spurs, and just taken the beating, we might have gotten a better result and stayed up.

If we had recruited players who would actually play, and not the likes of David Sommeil, Chris Lucketti, Mamadou Seck and Li Tie, we might have had a stronger squad and survived.

Also, if we look at the presence of Tevez in particular (Mascherano was not particularly influential for West Ham), we can look at the fact that they had a goal given to them away at Blackburn that A) Didn't go in; and B) Struck Tevez who was offside on the goalline. That should have been ruled out, which would have made that game a draw, and then we stay up.

We were in a relegation battle regardless of West Ham's actions that season. And there were many, many things within our control, that would have seen us stay up that year if we'd taken those actions, beyond just the things I've listed above. And we failed to do so.

 

[Frank the tank]

My only real feelings towards warnock is that I will always be thankful to him for dragging this club out of the coma it was in and growing it to what it is now

Same for. Wilder and basset who both came in when the club was on life support and with no real financial backing rubbed shoulders with the big boys

Let's hope no one else has to. Come in ten. Years from now. And do. It again

 

[CrookesBlade]

While this is factual, it's lazy to blame West Ham now, rather than highlighting the fact that we got ourselves into that position by way of being utterly dreadful for much of that season.

For example, we were relegated by a single goal. We missed 3(?) penalties that season that I remember, 2 of which were in the same game.

If Warnock hadn't handled Villa away so horrifically, we would have stayed up.

If we hadn't gone to Arsenal/Chelsea/Spurs, and just taken the beating, we might have gotten a better result and stayed up.

If we had recruited players who would actually play, and not the likes of David Sommeil, Chris Lucketti, Mamadou Seck and Li Tie, we might have had a stronger squad and survived.

Also, if we look at the presence of Tevez in particular (Mascherano was not particularly influential for West Ham), we can look at the fact that they had a goal given to them away at Blackburn that A) Didn't go in; and B) Struck Tevez who was offside on the goalline. That should have been ruled out, which would have made that game a draw, and then we stay up.

We were in a relegation battle regardless of West Ham's actions that season. And there were many, many things within our control, that would have seen us stay up that year if we'd taken those actions, beyond just the things I've listed above. And we failed to do so.

I agree with much of that. The recruitment (other than Rob Hulse) was dreadful. Kazim Richards and Nade chipped in with a few goals but the little money available seemed to be frittered away on players nowhere near the standard (which had started the previous season with Horsfield and Akinbiyi.

We are looking at it though from the perspective of a club who’d been out of the division for 13 years or so with the fewest resources of any side in the PL at the time. Even then relegation was always the expectation and it was only the thinnest of margins we were relegated by. One more goal (?) and it would have been considered a success.

If you take away the unfair advantage handed to West Ham along with a number of key decisions going against us (Gerrard’s penalty at the lane, Kozluk’s last minute goal at West Ham being ruled out for no reason, Heinze not being sent off for the foul on Shelton) we probably stay up by a few points. We had some hard luck that season.

 

[Selly]

I agree with much of that. The recruitment (other than Rob Hulse) was dreadful. Kazim Richards and Nade chipped in with a few goals but the little money available seemed to be frittered away on players nowhere near the standard (which had started the previous season with Horsfield and Akinbiyi.

We are looking at it though from the perspective of a club who’d been out of the division for 13 years or so with the fewest resources of any side in the PL at the time. Even then relegation was always the expectation and it was only the thinnest of margins we were relegated by. One more goal (?) and it would have been considered a success.

If you take away the unfair advantage handed to West Ham along with a number of key decisions going against us (Gerrard’s penalty at the lane, Kozluk’s last minute goal at West Ham being ruled out for no reason, Heinze not being sent off for the foul on Shelton) we probably stay up by a few points. We had some hard luck that season.

The recruitment was good enough to amass 38 points. A total which back then would have seen you stay up most seasons.

We were the 17th best team of those that were playing by the collectively agreed rules. A team chose to break the rules and weren`t punished for it.

It sticks in the craw a lot - why bother having rules if you aren`t going to punish people properly for breaking them.

And don`t give my any "it should be decided on the pitch" bollocks - every single thing every football club does is to try an improve their position "on the pitch". Break the rules, points deductions should be the standard.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

My only real feelings towards warnock is that I will always be thankful to him for dragging this club out of the coma it was in and growing it to what it is now

Same for. Wilder and basset who both came in when the club was on life support and with no real financial backing rubbed shoulders with the big boys

Let's hope no one else has to. Come in ten. Years from now. And do. It again

Sharp?

 

[Bath Blade]

The recruitment was good enough to amass 38 points. A total which back then would have seen you stay up most seasons.

We were the 17th best team of those that were playing by the collectively agreed rules. A team chose to break the rules and weren`t punished for it.

It sticks in the craw a lot - why bother having rules if you aren`t going to punish people properly for breaking them.

And don`t give my any "it should be decided on the pitch" bollocks - every single thing every football club does is to try an improve their position "on the pitch". Break the rules, points deductions should be the standard.

As someone else said at the time, arguing against punishment on the ‘it should be decided on the pitch’ argument is similar to turning up to the 100m sprint on a motorbike and saying it’s fair because it’s decided on the track.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Heard a tale from a referee from when he was at Scarborough.
About halfway through the second half the ref went and sat in the Scarborough dugout. Warnock asked him what he was doing and he said well I thought I’d ref it from here Neil because apparently you fucking see everything from here.
No idea if it’s true but wouldn’t be surprised

 

[Nick Jansky]

Heard a tale from a referee from when he was at Scarborough.
About halfway through the second half the ref went and sat in the Scarborough dugout. Warnock asked him what he was doing and he said well I thought I’d ref it from here Neil because apparently you fucking see everything from here.
No idea if it’s true but wouldn’t be surprised

IIRC the Colin Wanker thing first came into being at a meeting of refs.

 

[103SecondsOfMagic]

Was it a complete disaster?

Some memorable wins (albeit all at home) and a few creditable draws. We were certainly competitive that season as per the points tally that would have kept us up any other season (relegated on the finest of margins).

The legacy of the season wasn’t so great though with the parachute payments squandered and a steady decline culminating in relegation to league one.

Decent result at St James too, Danny Webber!