Roy's View From... View From Brighton

[HillmortonBlade]

Potter ball. Lol. They are seriously one of the most limited "football" teams in the division though they just can't see it. Was impressed by size of their away support though.

No worse than Newcastle, Bournmouth, Palace and Burnley in my opinion, this season.

Villa were a bit better in patches, mostly down to Grealish, rather than as a team.

 

[Flakey]

The wind blowing from that end made the noise louder I guess.. and yes the monotonous Albion, Albion, was almost as grating as Villa, Villa.

At least Albion has three syllables, so slightly more intelligent.

 

[CoatesyBlade]

Sorry but your arguments are a load of unrealistic nonsense. You don't want clubs to be able to have buying power on parity to the bigger, established clubs. How dare little clubs buy good players !!! All you're doing is arguing for the status quo for eternity. This idea that you have to earn your right to play in the big league without buying top players is just old blokes down the pub bollocks. Even with rich owners, clubs have to work within FFP, so it's not open ended, but without them then you might as well assign the top clubs to the PL and do away with relegation.
I don't like to see the huge amounts of money being thrown around these days, I find the sums obscene, and I don't like the mercenary approach of some players, or the "businessman making an investment" approach of some owners, but that's the way the game has developed and the idea that clubs shouldn't do everything within their power to get bigger and better, within the framework of the modern game, is ridiculous.
Wilder has done an incredible job on limited funds, but we are the exception, and it looks like things are changing. We've just spent 40 million on just two players. I'm guessing this is just the start. Are we buying our way to the top? And do you really believe that if the money had been available at any time in the last 4 years Wilder would have said "no, I don't want to buy success, I'll not spend the money that's available and if we don't get promotion, so be it, that's the level this club is" ???
And as for your rant about fans, how many times do we have to have the "plastic fan" debate on here? Fans will go to watch successful clubs playing good football. When the football's bad, the ground's shit, the club is in a lower division, fewer people will go. That's perfectly normal, perfectly reasonable. Some people like to go through thick and thin, some don't. It's up to the club to make the match day experience attractive and this "bigger Blade than thou"/"real fan vs plastic fan" crap needs to be assigned to the dustbin.

You stated that my 'argument' was ridiculous then stated that you didn't like to see it also... By which agreeing with me?
And I don't know where the bigger blade than thou came into it??
Maybe you don't agree with me that's fine.
My opinion on Brighton, their recent success and their fans talking down about my club winds me up... Nothing you say will changed that it's the way I feel about it.

 

[Yoonited]

I posted after the game at the Amex after browsing your fans' thoughts on the game then. I'll say the same again pretty much... you get all sorts on football forums. The vast majority of our fans thought we rode our luck yesterday against a very good team up to the top and consistently getting results for a reason. We weren't expecting anything really so to grab a backs-against-the-wall point at this stage of the season is great for us - especially with teams around us losing.

You might not be happy with GPs comments, but in a way he paid you the biggest compliment he could've yesterday by completely changing the way we play - he hasn't really done that this season. 'Potterball' is a bit of an embarrassing term but he has completely changed the way we play since he took over. Problem is, whilst it's been brilliant to watch in a lot of games, we've not taken our chances and/or given away stupid goals, and it's cost us. So we're at a point where we've now got to scrap for any point we can to try to stay up. Our away form especially has (again this season) been shocking. If we stay up it'll be interesting to see what happens over the summer with GP given a full summer to bring in personnel to play his style more effectivelly. We'll see.

Anyway, I've loved seeing a team come up and challenge the big teams for a spot in Europe, playing a great style of football. Hope you make it to Europe.

And to the guy who said we believe we're an 'established Prem team...' looking down on 'little Sheffield United...', that made me chuckle considering the histories of our clubs. I can assure you that 99% of our fans don't think that way

Some fans,including a few of our own are more familiar with cunttext than context

 

[GrayBlade]

I thought that most of the comments were decent enough. There’s still a perception by some that we still play the Warnock way, but then plenty of our own fans have no idea what planet they’re on so we shouldn't be too critical.

 

[Liverpool blade]

Cheers Roy. Decent comments from most of them!!. Onwards and upwards for the mighty blades.

 

[Davalon]

Spot the undercover Blade at the end.

(Well they must be seeing as it's always an undercover pig if they prefer the truffle snufflers).

 

[Grappler]

View From Brighton — The View From

"A point against one of the best performing sides in the division this season, who outplayed us at home."" I thoroughly enjoyed today’s game. Yes it wasn’t a pretty game but too often this season we’ve played attractive football with no reward - Villa away being a classic example. GP set the...

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Cheers Panchero!

 

[Hamburg Blade]

You stated that my 'argument' was ridiculous then stated that you didn't like to see it also... By which agreeing with me?
And I don't know where the bigger blade than thou came into it??
Maybe you don't agree with me that's fine.
My opinion on Brighton, their recent success and their fans talking down about my club winds me up... Nothing you say will changed that it's the way I feel about it.

Not really, I am uncomfortable with the sums of money changing hands for players, from a moral point of view considering the state of other things in the world, but even if you somehow lowered the sums to levels from, say, a couple of decades back, you would still have the same situation with a club being able to "buy success". I don't like a mercenary attitude because I think a football club should be a part of the community and there's a disconnect with fans and players if the player (or owners) simply don't care.
But that's the state of the game today - really always has been, players have always been bought and sold, moved around, taken the best offer and richer clubs have always had the advantage over poorer clubs. To wish a club ill because at this moment in time it has an injection of cash from an owner makes no sense, or smacks of jealousy and resentment.
The idea that you have to earn your place in the top division on the field without spending money off it is the sort of old blokes' griping that goes on down the pub. It isn't realistic and probably never has been.
We're no different to anyone else, except that for a long time we haven't had a really rich owner. The calls on here over the years for the owners to put their hands in their pockets is evidence of that. We've started spending some big sums to bring in better players, that's buying our way to success, just like everyone else does.
I can agree on where some things in the modern game are less than ideal, I can't agree with pointing the finger at clubs who've operated within the rules and within the system and say you should disappear back under the rock you crawled out from.

The bigger blade thing comes into it because you can't criticise other clubs for increasing fan base when they go up a division and have success without including our own fan base, which has grown as we've had success and promotions. There's regular talk about expanding Bramall Lane to accomodate these new numbers coming to watch PL football. How are Brighton's new fans not acceptable but ours are?

And as for other fans talking down about our club, we were a League 1 club for 6 years. We became a 3rd tier club, very, very recently. We can believe that we were always a top tier club going through a bad patch, but if anyone can be criticised, isn't it the arrogance of thinking we are bigger than we were and demanding people treat us as something we haven't been for bloody forever, rather than fans looking at us as an upstart lower division club?

 

[CoatesyBlade]

Not really, I am uncomfortable with the sums of money changing hands for players, from a moral point of view considering the state of other things in the world, but even if you somehow lowered the sums to levels from, say, a couple of decades back, you would still have the same situation with a club being able to "buy success". I don't like a mercenary attitude because I think a football club should be a part of the community and there's a disconnect with fans and players if the player (or owners) simply don't care.
But that's the state of the game today - really always has been, players have always been bought and sold, moved around, taken the best offer and richer clubs have always had the advantage over poorer clubs. To wish a club ill because at this moment in time it has an injection of cash from an owner makes no sense, or smacks of jealousy and resentment.
The idea that you have to earn your place in the top division on the field without spending money off it is the sort of old blokes' griping that goes on down the pub. It isn't realistic and probably never has been.
We're no different to anyone else, except that for a long time we haven't had a really rich owner. The calls on here over the years for the owners to put their hands in their pockets is evidence of that. We've started spending some big sums to bring in better players, that's buying our way to success, just like everyone else does.
I can agree on where some things in the modern game are less than ideal, I can't agree with pointing the finger at clubs who've operated within the rules and within the system and say you should disappear back under the rock you crawled out from.

The bigger blade thing comes into it because you can't criticise other clubs for increasing fan base when they go up a division and have success without including our own fan base, which has grown as we've had success and promotions. There's regular talk about expanding Bramall Lane to accomodate these new numbers coming to watch PL football. How are Brighton's new fans not acceptable but ours are?

And as for other fans talking down about our club, we were a League 1 club for 6 years. We became a 3rd tier club, very, very recently. We can believe that we were always a top tier club going through a bad patch, but if anyone can be criticised, isn't it the arrogance of thinking we are bigger than we were and demanding people treat us as something we haven't been for bloody forever, rather than fans looking at us as an upstart lower division club?

I appreciate what you're saying.
It's not that I wish ill per say. It's not like I'm at home twirling my moustache plotting Brighton's demise.
It's just that I've read an awful lot of comments from Brighton fans that put our team down. My response to that is one of... Who the hell are Brighton to put my team down? Brighton who have paid for this. Brighton who are in their 7th season in top flight football in their history. Brighton? Fucking Brighton??
It wound me up and I feel like a few home truths needed to be told.
Maybe I should just keep my thoughts to myself I don't know?

 

[Hamburg Blade]

I appreciate what you're saying.
It's not that I wish ill per say. It's not like I'm at home twirling my moustache plotting Brighton's demise.
It's just that I've read an awful lot of comments from Brighton fans that put our team down. My response to that is one of... Who the hell are Brighton to put my team down? Brighton who have paid for this. Brighton who are in their 7th season in top flight football in their history. Brighton? Fucking Brighton??
It wound me up and I feel like a few home truths needed to be told.
Maybe I should just keep my thoughts to myself I don't know?

There are big mouths in every fan base. I think people get too triggered by the Roy's Views sometimes. I doubt the majority of Brighton fans are Billy Big Bollocks.
When a club is financed artificially by a rich owner, it has a limited time to build on that and make itself into a genuinely big club, with large, loyal fan base and consistent PL players. Otherwise the investment stops or slows and the club sinks back down. The Championship is full of clubs big enough to survive or do well in the PL, conversely a lot of lower PL clubs can get relegated and find they're not even the biggest fish in the Championship. I think the variety and turn around makes it interesting. I'd prefer more variety at the top of the PL too.

You certainly shouldn't keep your thoughts to yourself. This is a forum, how dull would it be if everyone kept schtum?

Do more of this:

 

[BHA39]

I appreciate what you're saying.
It's not that I wish ill per say. It's not like I'm at home twirling my moustache plotting Brighton's demise.
It's just that I've read an awful lot of comments from Brighton fans that put our team down. My response to that is one of... Who the hell are Brighton to put my team down? Brighton who have paid for this. Brighton who are in their 7th season in top flight football in their history. Brighton? Fucking Brighton??
It wound me up and I feel like a few home truths needed to be told.
Maybe I should just keep my thoughts to myself I don't know?

Who has put your club down? A few fans on a message board - probably kids who don't know what they're talking about. Before and after both games this season, there's been great rapport between both sets of fans. At the Amex your fans were great in the pubs around town, and yesterday too all I saw was friendly chat between fans around the ground and in pubs. The vast majority of our fans aren't deluded about the fact we're only in our 7th season in the top flight. The reason most of us were so pleased with a point yesterday was because we weren't expecting anything considering how good you've been this season and how your tore us apart at the Amex. All clubs have a number of deluded, blinkered fans though.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

Potter ball. Lol. They are seriously one of the most limited "football" teams in the division though they just can't see it. Was impressed by size of their away support though.

Was impressed by the size of their defenders too. They were the only ones to cause us any trouble.
Monster defenders hoping for a set piece goal took me right back to League One days.

 

[originaltrueblade]

Wendy fans have always been classless

Thanks Roy

 

[Kenilworth]

View From Brighton — The View From

"A point against one of the best performing sides in the division this season, who outplayed us at home."" I thoroughly enjoyed today’s game. Yes it wasn’t a pretty game but too often this season we’ve played attractive football with no reward - Villa away being a classic example. GP set the...

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Had you chosen that before I’d posted it Pre match. Thought it would be a good one of they parked the bus, which they did.
Chooon

 

[Bladesman]

Who has put your club down? A few fans on a message board - probably kids who don't know what they're talking about. Before and after both games this season, there's been great rapport between both sets of fans. At the Amex your fans were great in the pubs around town, and yesterday too all I saw was friendly chat between fans around the ground and in pubs. The vast majority of our fans aren't deluded about the fact we're only in our 7th season in the top flight. The reason most of us were so pleased with a point yesterday was because we weren't expecting anything considering how good you've been this season and how your tore us apart at the Amex. All clubs have a number of deluded, blinkered fans though.

There seems to be quite a lot of them on the other side of our city as you already know.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

Just ask all the Wendy fans who say all the Prem clubs would love MASSIVE Wendy back in the Prem and are waiting with open arms

Might be true but it just ain’t gonna happen anytime soon....

 

[XM657]

Thought Wilders assessment of the Game was right we were excellent a top performance
I do though think he was seething about the Albion equaliser awful awful defending no one did their job

You could well be right in what you say I wouldn't argue that.
Wilders interview was so extraordinary compared to the norm,, he was not his usual self by self admission. He was seething but United have let daft goals in before and he's complained but he was never out of his box like this post match interview. There could be a more serious reason for his frustration that won't surface for a while, we will see.
Hopefully I'm putting 2+2 and = 5. It's just my personal honest assessment of Saturday 1500 to1800.

 

[Kenilworth]

You could well be right in what you say I wouldn't argue that.
Wilders interview was so extraordinary compared to the norm,, he was not his usual self by self admission. He was seething but United have let daft goals in before and he's complained but he was never out of his box like this post match interview. There could be a more serious reason for his frustration that won't surface for a while, we will see.
Hopefully I'm putting 2+2 and = 5. It's just my personal honest assessment of Saturday 1500 to1800.

I just think he knows how much effort has gone into getting where we are and that the crowd at Bramall Lane has a huge part to play, for the remaining games, to help drive the lads to the best finish we can hope for.
We don’t have a World class striker to return from injury and make the difference, like other rival clubs do. We have to outfight, outplay and outwork the opposition to overcome them. Don’t have an individual that can conjure up a moment of magic out of nothing.
With huge home games coming up the atmosphere at Bramall Lane will be crucial. Norwich will be tough enough (no way this will be a gimmie when they are fighting for survival) and with Everton, Spurs, Chelsea and Wolves remaining it’s going to be a mammoth effort to stay in and around that pack.
Wilder just knows the crowd has a very important part to play. When the lads are running on virtually empty (which could well be the case in the final stages of the season) they will need all the lift they can get. Wilder knows this is the best chance we have (maybe for several years) to get into European competition and he knows that if we do that it could set this club up for a long time to come. it’s not just the achievement of securing European football - it’s what it does for future recruitment and revenue. Players who would have been no where near considering Sheffield United will see us as a viable option. Extra TV revenue (domestic will increase if the Blades are regularly in European competition) can fund improvements in infrastructure and playing staff that we could not have contemplated in our wildest dreams a couple of years back.
This has the potential of becoming a Shankly / Clough & Taylor style legacy. Wilder is simply pointing out that, at this crucial stage of the season - having achieved our first target of 40 points with 11 games to go - the next level is achievable IF the lads get the kind of backing they have had for the earlier part of the season. We, as fans, show complacency and it could very well peter out to be a good season. Wilder wants and extraordinary season.
And he fucking deserves the backing.

 

[XM657]

I just think he knows how much effort has gone into getting where we are and that the crowd at Bramall Lane has a huge part to play, for the remaining games, to help drive the lads to the best finish we can hope for.
We don’t have a World class striker to return from injury and make the difference, like other rival clubs do. We have to outfight, outplay and outwork the opposition to overcome them. Don’t have an individual that can conjure up a moment of magic out of nothing.
With huge home games coming up the atmosphere at Bramall Lane will be crucial. Norwich will be tough enough (no way this will be a gimmie when they are fighting for survival) and with Everton, Spurs, Chelsea and Wolves remaining it’s going to be a mammoth effort to stay in and around that pack.
Wilder just knows the crowd has a very important part to play. When the lads are running on virtually empty (which could well be the case in the final stages of the season) they will need all the lift they can get. Wilder knows this is the best chance we have (maybe for several years) to get into European competition and he knows that if we do that it could set this club up for a long time to come. it’s not just the achievement of securing European football - it’s what it does for future recruitment and revenue. Players who would have been no where near considering Sheffield United will see us as a viable option. Extra TV revenue (domestic will increase if the Blades are regularly in European competition) can fund improvements in infrastructure and playing staff that we could not have contemplated in our wildest dreams a couple of years back.
This has the potential of becoming a Shankly / Clough & Taylor style legacy. Wilder is simply pointing out that, at this crucial stage of the season - having achieved our first target of 40 points with 11 games to go - the next level is achievable IF the lads get the kind of backing they have had for the earlier part of the season. We, as fans, show complacency and it could very well peter out to be a good season. Wilder wants and extraordinary season.
And he fucking deserves the backing.

Again I would not argue with any thing you say and despite my advanced years am fully cognizance of all the points you put forward.
What I will say is that since my last post I have seen the "Full" press conference, as against the pitch side one and my mind is more at rest after what CW said. Probably I should have kept my Gob shut but someone pointed out recently if we all did that there would be no forum.

 

[Kenilworth]

Again I would not argue with any thing you say and despite my advanced years am fully cognizance of all the points you put forward.
What I will say is that since my last post I have seen the "Full" press conference, as against the pitch side one and my mind is more at rest after what CW said. Probably I should have kept my Gob shut but someone pointed out recently if we all did that there would be no forum.

Agreed. That’s why I took the trouble to reply to your post

 

[Maidenhead]

players have been and are now on, equates to us 'buying' our way to the top division.

Edit: 15/16 season we brought in Knockaert 3mill, Huneimeier 2.5m, Jamie Murphy 1m, Hemed 1m, Manu 1m, Goldson 750k, some loans and free transfers. The end of that season we bought Duffy and Murray for 4m and 3m. How the fvck does that equate to buying success?

You're allowed to say fuck on here, we're a very liberal forward thinking forum

 

[Holmfirth Blade 1977]

"GP set the team up deliberately to combat a big physical side "

Some people....... Cheers Roy

 

[hidesbehindapseudonym]

Delighted they think the pigs are classless cunts as well

 

[Large Mendonca]

"GP set the team up deliberately to combat a big physical side "

Some people....... Cheers Roy

Define big physical side ! - I would say a back 5 of defenders all above about 6ft 3 a "big physical side"

 

[blade too long]

I thought Brighton had sent out the basketball team, some could have changed the light bulbs on the stand roof without a ladder