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I posted after the game at the Amex after browsing your fans' thoughts on the game then. I'll say the same again pretty much... you get all sorts on football forums. The vast majority of our fans thought we rode our luck yesterday against a very good team up to the top and consistently getting results for a reason. We weren't expecting anything really so to grab a backs-against-the-wall point at this stage of the season is great for us - especially with teams around us losing.

You might not be happy with GPs comments, but in a way he paid you the biggest compliment he could've yesterday by completely changing the way we play - he hasn't really done that this season. 'Potterball' is a bit of an embarrassing term but he has completely changed the way we play since he took over. Problem is, whilst it's been brilliant to watch in a lot of games, we've not taken our chances and/or given away stupid goals, and it's cost us. So we're at a point where we've now got to scrap for any point we can to try to stay up. Our away form especially has (again this season) been shocking. If we stay up it'll be interesting to see what happens over the summer with GP given a full summer to bring in personnel to play his style more effectivelly. We'll see.

Anyway, I've loved seeing a team come up and challenge the big teams for a spot in Europe, playing a great style of football. Hope you make it to Europe.

And to the guy who said we believe we're an 'established Prem team...' looking down on 'little Sheffield United...', that made me chuckle considering the histories of our clubs. I can assure you that 99% of our fans don't think that way 🤣
 



XM657 said:
Thank you Roy, Brighton scrapped, United Huffed & Puffed, plenty of effort lacked some technical skill, fair result, we go again. At least I hope we do, I feel something has come undone today. Strange interview by Chris Wilder post match.
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Thought Wilders assessment of the Game was right we were excellent a top performance
I do though think he was seething about the Albion equaliser awful awful defending no one did their job
 
“Blades vs Owls
What a difference
Same City, yet such a difference.
Blades Fans Classy…
Thumbs up
Whereas, Wednesday fans Classless..”


That's a complete lie

Just ask all the Wendy fans who say all the Prem clubs would love MASSIVE Wendy back in the Prem and are waiting with open arms
 
BHA39 said:
And to the guy who said we believe we're an 'established Prem team...' looking down on 'little Sheffield United...', that made me chuckle considering the histories of our clubs. I can assure you that 99% of our fans don't think that way 🤣
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I'd class you and Bournemouth as a 'football franchise'. Both clubs doing nothing at all in the football league throughout their respective histories. Average attendances of approx 4-6 thousand per game (Big respect to those fans by the way) Then some fanciful billionaire bank rolls the club. Hires a bunch of mercenaries and literally pays for success. Peripheral fans of Arsenal, Chelsea and even Man U come flooding through your gates. Said fans have an opinion on teams new to the league and I find it patronising at times. You think you play a good brand of football under Potter. I personally think he's got you into a whole World of trouble. He was successful at Ostersund... That's it! (In comparison to CW who has had success at every club he's managed)
What happens if you do go down and Tony Bloom leaves the club? Will the fans stay loyal? Or will they jump ship and flutter off to watch the Arsenal?
 
Carlton Blade said:
Best away fans we've seen this season. Hell of a trek as well.
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I’d say they were one one of the worst. Barely heard them all game and their goal celebration was tame as owt. I’ve celebrated winning corners more than that.
 
CoatesyBlade said:
I'd class you and Bournemouth as a 'football franchise'. Both clubs doing nothing at all in the football league throughout their respective histories. Average attendances of approx 4-6 thousand per game (Big respect to those fans by the way) Then some fanciful billionaire bank rolls the club. Hires a bunch of mercenaries and literally pays for success. Peripheral fans of Arsenal, Chelsea and even Man U come flooding through your gates. Said fans have an opinion on teams new to the league and I find it patronising at times. You think you play a good brand of football under Potter. I personally think he's got you into a whole World of trouble. He was successful at Ostersund... That's it! (In comparison to CW who has had success at every club he's managed)
What happens if you do go down and Tony Bloom leaves the club? Will the fans stay loyal? Or will they jump ship and flutter off to watch the Arsenal?
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Haha. Well we averaged over 27k in every year in the Championship since 2012 when the Amex could hold it, including a season we were dogshit and nearly went down to League 1. Before the Amex we didn't have our own stadium since 1997. Did you ever go to Withdean? We consistently sold it out - yeah only 6-8k depending on what it could hold, but it was a awful place to go and watch football - especially in winter, and there were 25k on the ticket purchase list. Before 1997 we had the Goldstone and got averaged regularly around 15k in the lower leagues - well over 20k when doing well, in lower leagues too, apart from last few years when we were in turmoil and the ground falling apart. We've always had very good away support, too (especially considering being on the south coast), which says a lot about the potential of a club.

Our 'fanciful billionaire' is a lifelong fan of the club whose family have links with the club too. And he's by no means a billionaire.

Do a bit of history on a club before spouting crap.
 
BHA39 said:
I posted after the game at the Amex after browsing your fans' thoughts on the game then. I'll say the same again pretty much... you get all sorts on football forums. The vast majority of our fans thought we rode our luck yesterday against a very good team up to the top and consistently getting results for a reason. We weren't expecting anything really so to grab a backs-against-the-wall point at this stage of the season is great for us - especially with teams around us losing.

You might not be happy with GPs comments, but in a way he paid you the biggest compliment he could've yesterday by completely changing the way we play - he hasn't really done that this season. 'Potterball' is a bit of an embarrassing term but he has completely changed the way we play since he took over. Problem is, whilst it's been brilliant to watch in a lot of games, we've not taken our chances and/or given away stupid goals, and it's cost us. So we're at a point where we've now got to scrap for any point we can to try to stay up. Our away form especially has (again this season) been shocking. If we stay up it'll be interesting to see what happens over the summer with GP given a full summer to bring in personnel to play his style more effectivelly. We'll see.

Anyway, I've loved seeing a team come up and challenge the big teams for a spot in Europe, playing a great style of football. Hope you make it to Europe.

And to the guy who said we believe we're an 'established Prem team...' looking down on 'little Sheffield United...', that made me chuckle considering the histories of our clubs. I can assure you that 99% of our fans don't think that way 🤣
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Good club, good support, questionable transfer dealings (a lot of money spent on dross. I think that's where the Bournemouth comparison comes from). We'll have the same challenges soon. How do you improve on the good core of players you came up with? You have to look abroad and its always a gamble.

Good luck for the rest of the season 👍
 
Carlton Blade said:
Good club, good support, questionable transfer dealings (a lot of money spent on dross. I think that's where the Bournemouth comparison comes from). We'll have the same challenges soon. How do you improve on the good core of players you came up with? You have to look abroad and its always a gamble.

Good luck for the rest of the season 👍
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Thanks, good luck to you too. Like I said, great to see a new club shaking things up at the top.

Definitely a some questionable transfer dealings over the last few seasons, which I think Potter has realised as the season's worn on. Many of our gambles from abroad haven't paid off so far. Just shows how inferior leagues like the Dutch league are to the Prem when you see a player tearing it up over there and then looks bobbins in the Prem. A lot to do over the summer.
 
Thanks Roy! Much appreciated as ever. They've been quite complimentary (the odd daft one as ever) but like the Classy comment!
 
BHA39 said:
Haha. Well we averaged over 27k in every year in the Championship since 2012 when the Amex could hold it, including a season we were dogshit and nearly went down to League 1. Before the Amex we didn't have our own stadium since 1997. Did you ever go to Withdean? We consistently sold it out - yeah only 6-8k depending on what it could hold, but it was a awful place to go and watch football - especially in winter, and there were 25k on the ticket purchase list. Before 1997 we had the Goldstone and got averaged regularly around 15k in the lower leagues - well over 20k when doing well, in lower leagues too, apart from last few years when we were in turmoil and the ground falling apart. We've always had very good away support, too (especially considering being on the south coast), which says a lot about the potential of a club.

Our 'fanciful billionaire' is a lifelong fan of the club whose family have links with the club too. And he's by no means a billionaire.

Do a bit of history on a club before spouting crap.
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I'll admit I didn't realise your Chairman was a supporter. But my point was that your recent success is bought and paid for.
I've never known Brighton to have had any kind of success or support (apart from your FA cup final early 80's) until the money came in.
Players go to the Amex cos you pay the wages funded by your billionaire chairman (supporter) Tony Bloom.
I hold no feeling or support for any team that achieves their football status in this manner. Teams with a lot more History and success are struggling in today's climate as they try to improve competing with teams on a level playing field.
You bought it didn't earn it. I don't think it's right.
 
They don't like the Pigs do they lol...Decent comments,and good away following...I remember them coming a few years ago in the Championship and were surprisingly loud.
 
CoatesyBlade said:
I'll admit I didn't realise your Chairman was a supporter. But my point was that your recent success is bought and paid for.
I've never known Brighton to have had any kind of success or support (apart from your FA cup final early 80's) until the money came in.
Players go to the Amex cos you pay the wages funded by your billionaire chairman (supporter) Tony Bloom.
I hold no feeling or support for any team that achieves their football status in this manner. Teams with a lot more History and success are struggling in today's climate as they try to improve competing with teams on a level playing field.
You bought it didn't earn it. I don't think it's right.
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Explain to me how we have 'bought' success more than any other team who has made their way up from the Championship? The money we have spent, etc? Our wage bill is one of the lowest in the Prem! We were knocking on the door of the Prem for quite a few seasons (bar a blip 2014/15) with a strong squad built over the years and under good management. How on earth does that constitute 'buying' success compared to any other club who have come up from the Championship?

And what a crying shame that some teams with 'more history and success' are currently struggling under today's climate and different clubs and supporters are getting a chance to shine. Maybe these clubs (I guess you're talking about the likes of Leeds, Forest and Wednesday) have actually just been shockingly mismanaged over recent years (as we were in the 90s which lead to losing our ground). Football fluctuates, anyway. PNE and Blackpool were once footballing powerhouses. The likes of Leeds and Forest have been out of the top division for so long that you have to go back decades to find their success.
 
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Dnblade said:
They don't like the Pigs do they lol...Decent comments,and good away following...I remember them coming a few years ago in the Championship and were surprisingly loud.
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Late goals before half time and full time to win 2-1... I remember that game well! 2005 I think??
 



FredZeppelin said:
The reason the comments are mixed with delusion and disappointment is that they are just another established Prem team that just cannot possibly comprehend or accept that 'little Sheffield United' have a far better team than they do.

It's been a common theme this year, especially amongst the few teams struggling at the wrong end of the table that really didn't think they would be in a relegation scrap. It's the Wednesday line of thinking in terms of 'refusing to see what is actually happening, and just holding their hands to their ears and shaking their heads, in complete denial'.

We've left the Championship behind. We are now leaving teams like Brighton, Watford, Palace, etc, behind. We are moving forward all the time. Let's hope we keep it going for years to come.

UTB
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View from Anfield will be interesting 2022.
 
Scrappy game .. they came for a point and got it .. can’t really argue with the majority of their comments .. fair play
 
BHA39 said:
Explain to me how we have 'bought' success more than any other team who has made their way up from the Championship? The money we have spent, etc? Our wage bill is one of the lowest in the Prem! We were knocking on the door of the Prem for quite a few seasons (bar a blip 2014/15) with a strong squad built over the years and under good management. How on earth does that constitute 'buying' success compared to any other club who have come up from the Championship?

And what a crying shame that some teams with 'more history and success' are currently struggling under today's climate and different clubs and supporters are getting a chance to shine. Maybe these clubs (I guess you're talking about the likes of Leeds, Forest and Wednesday) have actually just been shockingly mismanaged over recent years (as we were in the 90s which lead to losing our ground). Football fluctuates, anyway. PNE and Blackpool were once footballing powerhouses. The likes of Leeds and Forest have been out of the top division for so long that you have to go back decades to find their success.
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OMG are you actually serious?? Ok... It all started when you hired Gus Poyet in 2010. Things really kicked in though during the 2015/16 season when you bought a WHOLE new first team! Finishing 3rd you decided to bolster you squad with another 10/12 signings the following season and bought promotion. Feeling that the current squad wasn't equipped for life in the Premier League you had another overhaul of your 1st team squad in 17/18. That is how you bought your success.

Look... Everyone has an opinion on football. Some Sheff U fans get wound up by the West Ham thing still, some fans have a particular player or ref that winds them up... My thing is teams buying success like you lot, Bournemouth, Salford (are doing it now) I don't think it's right.

Nothing personal against you. But would I be upset if you were relegated? No I'd probably feel like some sort of footballing justice had been served. But then again as Tony is a supporter he'll probably just get the cheque book out again.

I'm not gonna say good luck to you or any other such niceties cos I don't mean it. Listening to your (Brighton as a collective) opinion on my club annoys me. So you and the horse you rode in on can you know what.
 
BHA39 said:
Late goals before half time and full time to win 2-1... I remember that game well! 2005 I think??
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Could have been that,or the 3-1 game in 06 maybe...can't believe it was that long ago we last met in the league.
 
Respect due to BHA coming on here and talking like an educated fan rather than some of the knobs on here..
ive been to withdean and know some of issue fans have lived with over the years. us blades have put up with a lot too over my 40 years watching them, winning little in my time. Living the dream at the moment. I enjoy watching the big teams like Man U and Arsenal struggle rather than teams like Brighton and all the hand wringing that goes on in the media.
 
BHA39 said:
Explain to me how we have 'bought' success more than any other team who has made their way up from the Championship? The money we have spent, etc? Our wage bill is one of the lowest in the Prem! We were knocking on the door of the Prem for quite a few seasons (bar a blip 2014/15) with a strong squad built over the years and under good management. How on earth does that constitute 'buying' success compared to any other club who have come up from the Championship?

And what a crying shame that some teams with 'more history and success' are currently struggling under today's climate and different clubs and supporters are getting a chance to shine. Maybe these clubs (I guess you're talking about the likes of Leeds, Forest and Wednesday) have actually just been shockingly mismanaged over recent years (as we were in the 90s which lead to losing our ground). Football fluctuates, anyway. PNE and Blackpool were once footballing powerhouses. The likes of Leeds and Forest have been out of the top division for so long that you have to go back decades to find their success.
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As a Blade of 64 years I accept your point about money.... Man.City being a prime example ... I am afraid to say that it is almost impossible to make any headway in the modern Prem ./ Media money making system. If you manage to find a decent manager...he is quickly grabbed by a bigger / richer club and as we can tell you. ..MANY MANY TIMES the same goes if you find and create your own players ...money talks . I think what it may seem like to Blades and other aforementioned clubs is that in the first part of my life we never really heard of clubs like yourselves -Bournemouth - Brentford etc ..only in cup matches and watching for pools results and we perceived ourselves to be a big club ..which in historical terms we are ... 60 odd years in top league , one title 4 cups etc ...but since the advent of the Premier league and Sky TV. and TV only supporters ... we are now the so called . .Plucky Little club in the Prem...... which seems to write of any history prior to the new Premiership . Up until my sons were born ( must be there fault ! ) being in the top Div. was a norm .for me ..!!. A local business man used to own a club ..now its billionaire multi franchises ....I had better stop....Good luck , I think you will avoid the drop... for us .... ?.
 
CoatesyBlade said:
OMG are you actually serious?? Ok... It all started when you hired Gus Poyet in 2010. Things really kicked in though during the 2015/16 season when you bought a WHOLE new first team! Finishing 3rd you decided to bolster you squad with another 10/12 signings the following season and bought promotion. Feeling that the current squad wasn't equipped for life in the Premier League you had another overhaul of your 1st team squad in 17/18. That is how you bought your success.

Look... Everyone has an opinion on football. Some Sheff U fans get wound up by the West Ham thing still, some fans have a particular player or ref that winds them up... My thing is teams buying success like you lot, Bournemouth, Salford (are doing it now) I don't think it's right.

Nothing personal against you. But would I be upset if you were relegated? No I'd probably feel like some sort of footballing justice had been served. But then again as Tony is a supporter he'll probably just get the cheque book out again.

I'm not gonna say good luck to you or any other such niceties cos I don't mean it. Listening to your (Brighton as a collective) opinion on my club annoys me. So you and the horse you rode in on can you know what.
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We brought new players in after a terrible season. What's the problem with that? It was nowhere near a complete new first team, anyway. We always remained within FFP, and we didn't splash money around like Wolves, for example. And we didn't have any kind of parachute payments to play with unlike clubs newly relegated. Makes it nigh-on impossible to compete for promotion if you don't spend a bit of money (for most teams - I accept there are rare exceptions). Our wage bill was always bang average for the Championship, and is now one of the smallest in the Prem, as I said. With the recent history of our club, there is no way Bloom would ever risk the future of our club by spending well above our means. If we do get relegated, we'll be in a good position financially. Of all the clubs who've been up and down over recent years I'm surprised anyone would think we've bought success. Look at Fulham last season, as another example. Villa this season. Stupid money spent and Fulham went down, Villa are shitter than us - the most one player team in the history of the Prem despite all the money spent.

Anyway, I accept everyone has different viewpoints on football and different clubs, but I just don't see how the money we've spent over recent years, and wages our players have been and are now on, equates to us 'buying' our way to the top division.

Edit: 15/16 season we brought in Knockaert 3mill, Huneimeier 2.5m, Jamie Murphy 1m, Hemed 1m, Manu 1m, Goldson 750k, some loans and free transfers. The end of that season we bought Duffy and Murray for 4m and 3m. How the fvck does that equate to buying success?
 
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CoatesyBlade said:
OMG are you actually serious?? Ok... It all started when you hired Gus Poyet in 2010. Things really kicked in though during the 2015/16 season when you bought a WHOLE new first team! Finishing 3rd you decided to bolster you squad with another 10/12 signings the following season and bought promotion. Feeling that the current squad wasn't equipped for life in the Premier League you had another overhaul of your 1st team squad in 17/18. That is how you bought your success.

Look... Everyone has an opinion on football. Some Sheff U fans get wound up by the West Ham thing still, some fans have a particular player or ref that winds them up... My thing is teams buying success like you lot, Bournemouth, Salford (are doing it now) I don't think it's right.

Nothing personal against you. But would I be upset if you were relegated? No I'd probably feel like some sort of footballing justice had been served. But then again as Tony is a supporter he'll probably just get the cheque book out again.

I'm not gonna say good luck to you or any other such niceties cos I don't mean it. Listening to your (Brighton as a collective) opinion on my club annoys me. So you and the horse you rode in on can you know what.
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It might be argued we bought a league title in 1981/82. (Around the same time BHA were appearing in an FA cup final)
 
Too good to go down? Not sure I agree there. I can see Watford getting out of it, possibly Bournemouth too. I would love to see Villa, West Ham or Newcastle go, but Brighton are on a poor run of form and aren't going to win too many points playing like yesterday. It's two from those six to go down to La Liga with the carrot crunchers and I can't see much between them.
 
CoatesyBlade said:
OMG are you actually serious?? Ok... It all started when you hired Gus Poyet in 2010. Things really kicked in though during the 2015/16 season when you bought a WHOLE new first team! Finishing 3rd you decided to bolster you squad with another 10/12 signings the following season and bought promotion. Feeling that the current squad wasn't equipped for life in the Premier League you had another overhaul of your 1st team squad in 17/18. That is how you bought your success.

Look... Everyone has an opinion on football. Some Sheff U fans get wound up by the West Ham thing still, some fans have a particular player or ref that winds them up... My thing is teams buying success like you lot, Bournemouth, Salford (are doing it now) I don't think it's right.

Nothing personal against you. But would I be upset if you were relegated? No I'd probably feel like some sort of footballing justice had been served. But then again as Tony is a supporter he'll probably just get the cheque book out again.

I'm not gonna say good luck to you or any other such niceties cos I don't mean it. Listening to your (Brighton as a collective) opinion on my club annoys me. So you and the horse you rode in on can you know what.
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Sorry but your arguments are a load of unrealistic nonsense. You don't want clubs to be able to have buying power on parity to the bigger, established clubs. How dare little clubs buy good players !!! All you're doing is arguing for the status quo for eternity. This idea that you have to earn your right to play in the big league without buying top players is just old blokes down the pub bollocks. Even with rich owners, clubs have to work within FFP, so it's not open ended, but without them then you might as well assign the top clubs to the PL and do away with relegation.
I don't like to see the huge amounts of money being thrown around these days, I find the sums obscene, and I don't like the mercenary approach of some players, or the "businessman making an investment" approach of some owners, but that's the way the game has developed and the idea that clubs shouldn't do everything within their power to get bigger and better, within the framework of the modern game, is ridiculous.
Wilder has done an incredible job on limited funds, but we are the exception, and it looks like things are changing. We've just spent 40 million on just two players. I'm guessing this is just the start. Are we buying our way to the top? And do you really believe that if the money had been available at any time in the last 4 years Wilder would have said "no, I don't want to buy success, I'll not spend the money that's available and if we don't get promotion, so be it, that's the level this club is" ???
And as for your rant about fans, how many times do we have to have the "plastic fan" debate on here? Fans will go to watch successful clubs playing good football. When the football's bad, the ground's shit, the club is in a lower division, fewer people will go. That's perfectly normal, perfectly reasonable. Some people like to go through thick and thin, some don't. It's up to the club to make the match day experience attractive and this "bigger Blade than thou"/"real fan vs plastic fan" crap needs to be assigned to the dustbin.
 



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