Usually positive but.......

[Balham]

Preseason. All about fitness and team bonding...not in our case. At what point does United players getting pissed get recognised as being unprofessional?

 

[Liverpool blade]

Although the current boardroom situation is far from ideal and lack of recruits is concerning!!.
I’m optimistic because I know that wilder was probably aware that the boardroom situation was never going be straightforward!. he’ll have plans to deal with it. Let’s hope that we have a couple of new recruits before the season starts?. In wilder we trust. UTB. FTP

 

[bromtom]

In my opinion, it's only a 'works night out' if your boss goes too. So was Wilder or Knill about? If not then it's "friends (from work)" in which case drunken arguments are possibly not so abnormal.

Still not great mind. Whether it can be a release of tension or something positive is up to how the coaching staff discipline the playing staff.

 

[Topplayersleave]

Obviously, I'm not party to ongoing transfer dealings, and a lot can change in a short space of time, but I'm currently concerned about our direction of travel. We seem to be repeating mistakes that we've made on and off for the last 40 yrs, and especially those that recently got us relegated into L1 in the first place. I don' t know whether we take the view that lightning doesn't strike twice or whether we've got collective amnesia as a club, but somebody needs to quickly remember the strategic/operational decisions that we were making between 2009 and 2011, and stop repeating the. I'm not saying that we've suddenly become relegation candidates, but we're tempting fate with what we appear to be doing, and we all know that fate likes to fuck us over given half a chance.

Lightening has already struck THREE TIMES !!!!!!
That's the number of times we've been relegated to the Third Division

Most big clubs that get relegated to the Third Division do so ONCE and immediately get out of it never too return again

When you take into account that we went one further and got relegated to the FOURTH division you begin to understand what a fucking shit club this really is.
The chances they've been given and thrown every single one of them away lends me to believe that they will do the same again

 

[LoughboroBlade]

An opportunity for Wilder to address concerns on this thread?

 

[Deaneandagana]

First game of the season given the documented outgoings and injuries currently looks like this:

Henderson
Basham Stearman O’Connell
Freeman Evans Fleck Stevens
Duffy
Sharp Clarke

Subs: Eastwood, Baldock, Lafferty, Leonard, Lundstram, Holmes, Lavery

Out: Moore, Long (transferred) Wright (inj), Coutts (recovering), Norrington-Davies, Slater, Evans (loaned)

Quite a familiar XI. Wouldn’t let us down. Couple of strikers in the squad over Lavery and a fullback would make the difference in league placings. An upgrade in the defence perhaps and maybe some young pressure for Holmes and Duffy.

No scope to cope with injuries though at the current rate of deck clearing.

7 of that starting line up were part of the Lesgue 1 promotion team.

It’s both a measure of how little quality investment the club has made & how several JTW additions haven’t made the grade.

The return of Coutts takes on ever more importance.

 

[bromtom]

7 of that starting line up were part of the Lesgue 1 promotion team.

It’s both a measure of how little quality investment the club has made & how several JTW additions haven’t made the grade.

The return of Coutts takes on ever more importance.

Is is not just a measure of them being quite good? Did we not finish 10th in the Championship last season with them?

LEvans, Leonard and Holmes in January, L Evans was immense towards the end of last season, Holmes was injured all the time but was decent at moments, particularly Wolves away where he was our best player, and Leonard admittedly looked a bit iffy, but two out of three ain't bad as Meatloaf said.

 

[blade too long]

Drunken fisticuffs apparently, edna took a swing at jock, coutts wouldnt get in a taxi and was arguing with basham who was trying to bundle him into a cab and sharp had a shouting match with someone, was all in the shoutbox / on twitter

team bonding ,,, cant beat it
be more worried if there was no passion
remember birchenall and others getting rat arsed on fridays , we were in the top division then might be where weve been going wrong

spats at all clubs , why should we be different

 

[blade too long]

england , hailed for being better , lost more world cup games now than germany and argentina did

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

england , hailed for being better , lost more world cup games now than germany and argentina did

So what?

England won more matches than Argentina and Germany combined.

 

[blade too long]

So what?

England won more matches than Argentina and Germany combined.

just saying stats can work for or against you
Id reckon germany and argenina would have liked tunisia and panama in their group

 

[Maidenhead]

Drunken fisticuffs apparently, edna took a swing at jock, coutts wouldnt get in a taxi and was arguing with basham who was trying to bundle him into a cab and sharp had a shouting match with someone, was all in the shoutbox / on twitter

Baxters left nostril This

 

[Harry's Game]

LEvans, Leonard and Holmes in January, L Evans was immense towards the end of last season..

Well.. he did alright, I think “immense” is Donald Trumping it a bit.

 

[bromtom]

Well.. he did alright, I think “immense” is Donald Trumping it a bit.

Maybe haha but he was very good I thought. Won a lot of free kicks for us and got a couple of goals too.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Most big clubs that get relegated to the Third Division do so ONCE and immediately get out of it never too return again

How many clubs have done that?

I can't think of any apart from Leicester.

 

[Topplayersleave]

How many clubs have done that?

I can't think of any apart from Leicester.

Leeds
Forest
Derby
Southampton
Leicester
Birmingham
West Brom

All been League One clubs briefly fairly recently

You could add Bolton, Wigan, Millwall, Bristol City, Blackburn who went down and came back quickly but I suppose those smaller clubs have a history of getting relegated to Division Three like Sheffield United have

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Leeds
Forest
Derby
Southampton
Leicester
Birmingham
West Brom

Only Leicester match the criteria you specified.

 

[Topplayersleave]

just saying stats can work for or against you
Id reckon germany and argenina would have liked tunisia and panama in their group

Yes exactly
The stats show that England lost three games out of seven and drew one (albeit winning on penalties)
Beating only Tunisia, Panama and Sweden

 

[blade too long]

Leeds
Forest
Derby
Southampton
Leicester
Birmingham
West Brom

All been League One clubs briefly fairly recently

You could add Bolton, Wigan, Millwall, Bristol City, Blackburn who went down and came back quickly but I suppose those smaller clubs have a history of getting relegated to Division Three like Sheffield United have

Don't forget Wednesday relegated Twice as many times as United to league one this century
Man city been there recently too
Sunderland just joined the list
3 teams that have been in league one in the past 20 years have won the prem title

 

[bromtom]

Only Leicester match the criteria you specified.

Why let facts get in the way of whinging?

 

[Oldun]

How many clubs have done that?

I can't think of any apart from Leicester.

Wolves?

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Wolves?

No.

Nowhere near.

 

[zablade]

How many clubs have done that?

I can't think of any apart from Leicester.

Southampton

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Southampton

Nope.

 

[zablade]

Nope.

Yep..

 

[zablade]

How many clubs have done that?

I can't think of any apart from Leicester.

Norwich

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Yep..

I don't think you understand what's going on.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Norwich

Again, no.

 

[zablade]

Again, no.

Norwich and Soton went down to League one and came straight back up. Check it.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Norwich and Soton went down to League one and came straight back up. Check it.

No they didn't. Southampton took two seasons to get back to the Championship after relegation in 2008-09.

But that's besides the point. We're on about clubs that have only been relegated to the third tier once and made an immediate return.

The only ones I'm aware of off the top of my head are Leicester and Manchester City.