Updates from the Wilder

[Fulwood Blade]

Pretty relaxed about whether Carruthers or Duffy plays. I expect with 2 games in quick succession, Carruthers will start 1. I expect O'Shea to get a bit of game time from the bench too. If Carruthers plays instead of Duffy it might change our midfield shape a bit too as we went from

Coutts-----Fleck

------Duffy


to


-------------Coutts
Carruthers--------Fleck


essentially inverting the triangle.

Indeed - CW has already mentioned the number of games and the Brizzle game away showed how he is prepared to change a team from Saturday to midweek and then back to Saturday.

Expect the same for R'dale and Oxford.

tbf - the changes are immaterial - he will use the "group" as he likes to refer to them as.

UTB

 

[coaxingstar71]

We all fancy ourselves as 'tinkermen' don't we?

I'd consider starting with Carruthers instead of Duffy, but only to give Duffy a rest if he needs one.
Why the hell would he consider changing formation?
If it ain't broke an' all that..............

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

We all fancy ourselves as 'tinkermen' don't we?

I'd consider starting with Carruthers instead of Duffy, but only to give Duffy a rest if he needs one.
Why the hell would he consider changing formation?
If it ain't broke an' all that..............

CW has shown several times this season that he's not scared to change formation when things aren't working.

 

[Slim Man]

CW has shown several times this season that he's not scared to change formation when things aren't working.

But they are

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

But they are

Things are working because he's prepared to change things.

We wouldn't have won some games this season had we not changed formation/personnel.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Last time we played away games Saturday/Tuesday Chris changed things around,i expect the same this time with these 2 tricky games

 

[Slim Man]

Things are working because he's prepared to change things.

We wouldn't have won some games this season had we not changed formation/personnel.

I'm not saying that I'm just saying cos you mentioned things 'not working'

 

[Grecian2000]

Why change anything ,I like Carruthers from what Ive seen but to be fair a couple of cameos at a tiring Southend and Bolton and an iffy game against Peterboro does not merit the hype hes getting over the 3 who have got us where we are. I sense people are just waiting for one of the 3 to fail ,Duffy favourite atm which is completely unfair ,all 3 are the business.

Couldn't agree more. His ball retention is way below the other three (possibly because he tries trickier more difficult things) and the other three have more than earned their places.
Not at all keen on messing with a table topping combination at this stage.

 

[Ricky]

Carruthers is going to start one of the next two games. O'Shea might do as well. Duffy is often the one Wilder takes off first, and it makes sense to make sure he stays in top condition. Especially with the quality of the alternative options we have.

I'd start Carruthers at Rochdale and then Duffy at Oxford, reverting to the tried and tested in what I see to be the more difficult game.

Would also consider starting Lavery at Rochdale.

 

[BushBlade]

Unlike us, CW has the benefit of video analysts who will have reviewed Rochdale's recent performances and identified potential weaknesses and fitness experts who monitor the players regularly so any decisions he makes regarding team selection and shape will be made from a position of knowledge.
So whatever he does, it's fine by me.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Oxford are playing even more games than us and again played pretty much their strongest X1 v Luton.

Carruthers for Duffy is the only change I'd make unless others are enforced by injury or tiredness. The players are flying at the moment so I doubt the latter will come into it.

 

[coaxingstar71]

CW has shown several times this season that he's not scared to change formation when things aren't working.

Perhaps during a game.

 

[I should coco]

Unlike us, CW has the benefit of video analysts who will have reviewed Rochdale's recent performances and identified potential weaknesses and fitness experts who monitor the players regularly so any decisions he makes regarding team selection and shape will be made from a position of knowledge.
So whatever he does, it's fine by me.

Heretical thinking BushBlade and it will never catch on.

It is a well known fact that anybody who sits in front of a screen and has seen the Blades twice this season knows far more about our 'best team' than that idiot Wilder.

What next? You'll say because he sees them every day on the training ground and knows their state of readiness, that he is better qualified to pick the team!

Pah, get a grip on yourself Bush-so-called-Blade.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I'd be surprised if Wilder made too many changes until promotion is guaranteed. Talking as if promotion's a certainty is the surest way to cause our charge towards the Championship to stumble with a sudden halt!

Wilder will know what to do regarding team selection. He'll know that arrogance has no place in what we're attempting to achieve, and that promotion is the only issue that matters, so no sudden bursts of changing what's been proven to work so effectively. Time enough for changing selection and formations, after six seasons in this toilet of a division would anyone wish to tamper with the formula that has given us this opportunity to move to a higher division? We're moving forward, with the necessary focus and dedication we can seal what has been a superb campaign for everyone concerned. Not only can we be one of the automatic promotion teams (Champions I hope) but we can look back at what has generally been a thoroughly entertaining season, something I never thought I'd be able to say given over half a decade's history of continued disappointment.

 

[BushBlade]

Heretical thinking BushBlade and it will never catch on.

It is a well known fact that anybody who sits in front of a screen and has seen the Blades twice this season knows far more about our 'best team' than that idiot Wilder.

What next? You'll say because he sees them every day on the training ground and knows their state of readiness, that he is better qualified to pick the team!

Pah, get a grip on yourself Bush-so-called-Blade.

Don't get me wrong, I know more about football than any of our last seven managers but I can't afford Pro-Zone and 'xPlayer' for each of the L1 teams so I can watch the games back.

Edit: better add a smiley in case someone thinks I'm serious.

 

[I should coco]

but I can't afford Pro-Zone and 'xPlayer' for each of the L1 teams so I can watch the games back.

You don't need it.

Shouting the loudest and some made up bullshit stats' are more than enough ("Moore's pass to completion-zone-coverage rate is higher than any goalkeeper since Fatty Foulke" etc).

Also a bit of seaweed dangling by the back door can be a great team selection aid too.

 

[Pinchy]

I'm hoping Ruthers will be unleashed on Saturday in the number 10 position.

Shame about Riley, he would've obviously started some games. It would've been worse if we weren't looking so comfortable though.

Ruthers. I like it. Sam Ruthers it is! Sounds like a proper footballer.

 

[Pinchy]

Why change anything ,I like Carruthers from what Ive seen but to be fair a couple of cameos at a tiring Southend and Bolton and an iffy game against Peterboro does not merit the hype hes getting over the 3 who have got us where we are. I sense people are just waiting for one of the 3 to fail ,Duffy favourite atm which is completely unfair ,all 3 are the business.

Absolutely! Far and away the most talented, cohesive and generally bloody brilliant midfield we've had for many a year and people can't wait to change it...

For any newcomers who don't know boo radley well, he favours a particular type of midfielder:

 

[Th!stledo]

I suppose there are two sides to the coin. Sticking with a winning team does make sense. But also, giving a chance to players who are proving themselves in training and when they come on as subs, does reward endeavour and increases the impetus to perform from those wearing the shirt.

Luckily we have the right man in CW to make those difficult decisions.

 

[boo radley]

Hey Pinchy Here's the face to stick on the cone you love to post so much. They go hand in hand and I'm sure you posted it for that reason you love your static players and Mr "watch everyone else defend" seems to be your favourite. Just make sure if you stick that picture on your cone that you do not put it next to Coutts as you are likely to pick the wrong one up as you leave.

Here's a reminder where it has been spotted before

Just to point out however if CW sees fit to play him it is good enough for me as he knows better than me. Just as he did when he was playing Done because he also knows better than you or the both of us or anyone else on this forum for that matter.

 

[sitwell]

Er shouldn't that be Duffys man or Landells ? Do you really have a mental block here or can your not see what Coutts brings to Sheff Utd and the players round him ,especially Fleck ? Lets get Dean Hammond and Baxter back eh ?

 

[Pinchy]

Er shouldn't that be Duffys man or Landells ? Do you really have a mental block here or can your not see what Coutts brings to Sheff Utd and the players round him ,especially Fleck ? Lets get Dean Hammond and Baxter back eh ?

John Fleck, I have no doubt, loves playing alongside Paul Coutts (and Mark Duffy). They are both Scottish ball players and they dovetail superbly. Couttsy, no doubt, feels exactly the same. They are the primary reason for our success and the superb football that is generating that success.

Tufty has made Couttsy his vice-captain. That too speaks volumes.

In truth, we are engaging in a debate that isn't there to be had.

 

[Pinchy]

Hey Pinchy Here's the face to stick on the cone you love to post so much. They go hand in hand and I'm sure you posted it for that reason you love your static players and Mr "watch everyone else defend" seems to be your favourite. Just make sure if you stick that picture on your cone that you do not put it next to Coutts as you are likely to pick the wrong one up as you leave.

Here's a reminder where it has been spotted before

Just to point out however if CW sees fit to play him it is good enough for me as he knows better than me. Just as he did when he was playing Done because he also knows better than you or the both of us or anyone else on this forum for that matter.

I ❤ talented proper footballers Boo (ask Tufty if you need an explanation for a phrase in common use in the game). You are perfectly entitled to prefer splay-footed ragamuffins who run around a lot but can't pass water or trap a bag of cement, but let's at least be honest about it, eh?

 

[boo radley]

I ❤ talented proper footballers Boo (ask Tufty if you need an explanation for a phrase in common use in the game). You are perfectly entitled to prefer splay-footed ragamuffins who run around a lot but can't pass water or trap a bag of cement, but let's at least be honest about it, eh?

Yes let's be honest about it. You loved Weirs style of play and your man Doyle who conducted his instructions. You love to watch the Coca Cola keepy uppy champion that you would put in your team because you see him trap a ball with no pressure.
This team us going places because it has a style that you fail to see and it is mobile and forward thinking. Yes it is a fast game with plenty of Skill and Technique (something I doubt you know the difference between) the movement and ability to take responsibility in different situations is fantastic for all bar one and he's admitted it!
I know you'll have despaired when we signed Hanson. You are cringing and shivering with muscular pain because dare not admit it is against your own pathetic principles of football. And really don't like the fact we have such a versatile team that is adaptable to many situations.
Surly though you have enjoyed the many styles of different footballers we have that go to make up this team? Well at least the ones who take responsibility and are willing to work for the team not just themselves.

 

[Pinchy]

Yes let's be honest about it. You loved Weirs style of play and your man Doyle who conducted his instructions. You love to watch the Coca Cola keepy uppy champion that you would put in your team because you see him trap a ball with no pressure.
This team us going places because it has a style that you fail to see and it is mobile and forward thinking. Yes it is a fast game with plenty of Skill and Technique (something I doubt you know the difference between) the movement and ability to take responsibility in different situations is fantastic for all bar one and he's admitted it!
I know you'll have despaired when we signed Hanson. You are cringing and shivering with muscular pain because dare not admit it is against your own pathetic principles of football. And really don't like the fact we have such a versatile team that is adaptable to many situations.
Surly though you have enjoyed the many styles of different footballers we have that go to make up this team? Well at least the ones who take responsibility and are willing to work for the team not just themselves.

We are playing pass and move football. We dominate possession, as the merest glance at our match statistics will confirm. We routinely have 10-20 passes and more without the opposition getting anywhere near us, often ending in an attempt on goal (again stats will confirm). We keep the ball; we don't turn the beautiful game into a succession of 50/50 challenges

That is proper football. It is Barcelona not Wimbledon. It is light years from anything your heroes DD and OBN would produce, or even understand. Wilder's Tuftyball would confuse and bewilder the old Hoofers. It is the complete antithesis of alehouse football. A phrase coined by the late, great Bill Shankly, of whom you may have heard? He knew what he was talking about.

You don't understand it, either. This we know, because you have asked me more than once to explain to you the concepts of "proper footballer" and the "right way" even though both phrases are in common usage by top players and managers, including guess who? That's right, Tufty himself. They mean playing football, Boo. Proper football. Not the ragamuffin, raggy-arsed tearing around aimlesssly, tirelessly chasing shadows, muckanettles, nowt-fancy, anti-football that you admire so much. As I have told you before, if you need to ask the question, you won't understand the answer, and you don't, that's perfectly clear.

So, your attempt to claim Tuftyball as your own is exposed for the disingenuous nonsense it so obviously is. Your attempt to turn Bassett base metal into Tufty Gold is risible. Your touchstone is damaged beyond repair. It's as redundant as a fax machine.

You Hoofers are in glorious retreat as football rises again at The Lane after far, far too long. It's Dunkirk for the Dinosaurs. It's glorious for the beautiful game.

Thank Pele. Thank Tufty.

❤. ❤⚔.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

We are playing pass and move football. We dominate possession, as the merest glance at our match statistics will confirm. We routinely have 10-20 passes and more without the opposition getting anywhere near us, often ending in an attempt on goal (again stats will confirm). We keep the ball; we don't turn the beautiful game into a succession of 50/50 challenges

That is proper football. It is Barcelona not Wimbledon. It is light years from anything your heroes DD and OBN would produce, or even understand. Wilder's Tuftyball would confuse and bewilder the old Hoofers. It is the complete antithesis of alehouse football. A phrase coined by the late, great Bill Shankly, of whom you may have heard? He knew what he was talking about.

You don't understand it, either. This we know, because you have asked me more than once to explain to you the concepts of "proper footballer" and the "right way" even though both phrases are in common usage by top players and managers, including guess who? That's right, Tufty himself. They mean playing football, Boo. Proper football. Not the ragamuffin, raggy-arsed tearing around aimlesssly, tirelessly chasing shadows, muckanettles, nowt-fancy, anti-football that you admire so much. As I have told you before, if you need to ask the question, you won't understand the answer, and you don't, that's perfectly clear.

So, your attempt to claim Tuftyball as your own is exposed for the disingenuous nonsense it so obviously is. Your attempt to turn Bassett base metal into Tufty Gold is risible. Your touchstone is damaged beyond repair. It's as redundant as a fax machine.

You Hoofers are in glorious retreat as football rises again at The Lane after far, far too long. It's Dunkirk for the Dinosaurs. It's glorious for the beautiful game.

Thank Pele. Thank Tufty.

❤. ❤⚔.

As a matter of interest, how would you describe the football played by United in this video?
Proper football? Dominating possession? Often ending in an attempt on goal? (stats will confirm)
or Alehouse football? Tearing around aimlessly? Chasing shadows? Nowt-fancy? Anti-football?

I dunno. Maybe it's somewhere in between...

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Heretical thinking BushBlade and it will never catch on.

It is a well known fact that anybody who sits in front of a screen and has seen the Blades twice this season knows far more about our 'best team' than that idiot Wilder.

What next? You'll say because he sees them every day on the training ground and knows their state of readiness, that he is better qualified to pick the team!

Pah, get a grip on yourself Bush-so-called-Blade.

As a matter of interest, how would you describe the football played by United in this video?
Proper football? Dominating possession? Often ending in an attempt on goal? (stats will confirm)
or Alehouse football? Tearing around aimlessly? Chasing shadows? Nowt-fancy? Anti-football?

I dunno. Maybe it's somewhere in between...

I would describe it as...winning football

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I would describe it as...winning football

Winning football by players that care too.

That's what takes it up a notch. Thats why everyone feels the way they are doing this season.

 

[BushBlade]

As a matter of interest, how would you describe the football played by United in this video?
Proper football? Dominating possession? Often ending in an attempt on goal? (stats will confirm)
or Alehouse football? Tearing around aimlessly? Chasing shadows? Nowt-fancy? Anti-football?

I dunno. Maybe it's somewhere in between...

Personally, I'd call it 'direct'. We don't build from the back, we launch it into their half and look to pick up the second ball. We tended to play the ball forwards when possible and look to gain territory rather than retain possession. We looked to capitalise on set pieces. We did press from the front to try to cause defensive errors (successfully in this game).
It's certainly not the anti-football we saw under Blackwell (and sometimes Bassett and Warnock) but it's very different from what we play now.

I think the things we took from then to now are the harassing of defenders, the high tempo and the team work ethic and spirit.

 

[JordoBlade]

We all fancy ourselves as 'tinkermen' don't we?

I'd consider starting with Carruthers instead of Duffy, but only to give Duffy a rest if he needs one.
Why the hell would he consider changing formation?
If it ain't broke an' all that..............

Because deep down we don't like change so we need to bottle it again.