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barnyblade said:
The last one makes me cry a little bit not going to lie, however, in Adkins we trust.
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After QPR I said McEveley would make a good captain, that day he was a real leader.

Really seemed to have a good month or so after that as well

But the rest of the season he seemed to lose his way.

It'll be interesting to see how Brayford fits in after he returns
 
As long as it's before the end of the month I'm not too bothered
 
I got the impression from the full interview that mceverley would be the captain for the time being, but it weren't set in stone for the season, I'd imagine once brayford comes back there'll be another look at who should be captain.

That being said if mceverley proves himself as captain I'm happy for him to continue wi it all season.
 
I'm not going to admit to seeing every game last season, and due to moving away and working weekends I probably only got to a handful of them (around 10 if i had to guess), but why does McEveley get so much stick? From what I saw of him last season he made some mistakes, yes, but overall was solid when both defending and going forward and always led by example and tried to command the game. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any criticism but I just can't see where its come from, just that it started mid way through the season and has got progressively worse. Now its as though everything he does is wrong and he never has good spells at all.

If he's as bad as everyone seems to think, why has NA appointed him captain and I must have attended a bloody fortunate bunch of games to have missed something everyone else sees so clearly.
 
x111Josh said:
I'm not going to admit to seeing every game last season, and due to moving away and working weekends I probably only got to a handful of them (around 10 if i had to guess), but why does McEveley get so much stick? From what I saw of him last season he made some mistakes, yes, but overall was solid when both defending and going forward and always led by example and tried to command the game. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any criticism but I just can't see where its come from, just that it started mid way through the season and has got progressively worse. Now its as though everything he does is wrong and he never has good spells at all.

If he's as bad as everyone seems to think, why has NA appointed him captain and I must have attended a bloody fortunate bunch of games to have missed something everyone else sees so clearly.
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He's nowhere near as bad as everyone makes out. The defence lost confidence as the season went on because it was stretched and a few of them lost their way. Ordinarily he would have been dropped to regain his form. But due to lack of cover, we had to continue with him.

The awful end of season form masks some very good performances overall. The fact is, fan opinion is incredibly fickle.

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x111Josh said:
I'm not going to admit to seeing every game last season, and due to moving away and working weekends I probably only got to a handful of them (around 10 if i had to guess), but why does McEveley get so much stick? From what I saw of him last season he made some mistakes, yes, but overall was solid when both defending and going forward and always led by example and tried to command the game. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any criticism but I just can't see where its come from, just that it started mid way through the season and has got progressively worse. Now its as though everything he does is wrong and he never has good spells at all.

If he's as bad as everyone seems to think, why has NA appointed him captain and I must have attended a bloody fortunate bunch of games to have missed something everyone else sees so clearly.
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Because Blades.
 
SwissBlade said:
After QPR I said McEveley would make a good captain, that day he was a real leader.

Really seemed to have a good month or so after that as well

But the rest of the season he seemed to lose his way.

It'll be interesting to see how Brayford fits in after he returns
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He did have a lot of different players to play next to though and not many were actual CB'S.maybe just maybe playing and forming a partnership with another CB may make our defence stronger as a unit, give Howard a regular pairing to order round and develop that understanding. Maybe?
 
Cheebley said:
He did have a lot of different players to play next to though and not many were actual CB'S.maybe just maybe playing and forming a partnership with another CB may make our defence stronger as a unit, give Howard a regular pairing to order round and develop that understanding. Maybe?
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Yeah I'm with you there, we need a strong partnership... Let's just hope that we don't get stuffed by someone like Swindon and Collins spits his dummy again...

Is Howard the number 1 this season?
 
SwissBlade said:
Yeah I'm with you there, we need a strong partnership... Let's just hope that we don't get stuffed by someone like Swindon and Collins spits his dummy again...

Is Howard the number 1 this season?
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Collins seemed to make a statement about his determination to play for us again. There were some dummies out, but Clough's was spat the furthest.

Ding, or whatever.

:)

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SwissBlade said:
Yeah I'm with you there, we need a strong partnership... Let's just hope that we don't get stuffed by someone like Swindon and Collins spits his dummy again...

Is Howard the number 1 this season?
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Certainly looks that way
 



alcoblade said:
Collins seemed to make a statement about his determination to play for us again. There were some dummies out, but Clough's was spat the furthest.

Ding, or whatever.

:)

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Well like I say, I hope Collins' precious ego is ok now in case we get drubbed..

Clough isn't with us, Collins is
 
I can't believe how many people talk about McEveley as if he's Claude Davis... if you can't recognise that there's a composed and solid central defender in McEveley then you might just be in for a shock.

With the right kind of partner alongside him (a commanding one), I think he can be very, very good. He demonstrated as much in the opening few months of last season. Any player can look like an accident waiting to happen (which I admit he did do towards the end of the season) when low on confidence. Giving him the captaincy will boost that and I honestly think he will prove a lot of people wrong.
 
Did I hear right that McEveley is the captain because he knows how to warm up correctly?? ;)
 
Dec said:
I can't believe how many people talk about McEveley as if he's Claude Davis... if you can't recognise that there's a composed and solid central defender in McEveley then you might just be in for a shock.

With the right kind of partner alongside him (a commanding one), I think he can be very, very good. He demonstrated as much in the opening few months of last season. Any player can look like an accident waiting to happen (which I admit he did do towards the end of the season) when low on confidence. Giving him the captaincy will boost that and I honestly think he will prove a lot of people wrong.
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I do hope you're right but I see him as someone who can play centre half not someone who is a centre half, I don't think this helped him and neither did not having a proper centre half alongside him, little wonder as the season progressed the defence looked more and more a shambles.
 
x111Josh said:
I'm not going to admit to seeing every game last season, and due to moving away and working weekends I probably only got to a handful of them (around 10 if i had to guess), but why does McEveley get so much stick? From what I saw of him last season he made some mistakes, yes, but overall was solid when both defending and going forward and always led by example and tried to command the game. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any criticism but I just can't see where its come from, just that it started mid way through the season and has got progressively worse. Now its as though everything he does is wrong and he never has good spells at all.

If he's as bad as everyone seems to think, why has NA appointed him captain and I must have attended a bloody fortunate bunch of games to have missed something everyone else sees so clearly.
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Tbh after Tottenham he was making mistakes up until Swindon at home in playoffs where he got back into it fully but I agree with you before Christmas he was a top quality defender and can lead the team good choice of a captain
 
SwissBlade said:
Alternatively, problem buried...
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Maybe. But he fell out with Collins, Butler and Maguire., in one season. Collins has no history of the ego that you're suggesting.

I've defended Clough regarding his treatment of Maguire, based on the facts as I heard them. I've heard nothing to suggest that Collins has an ego problem. Have you?

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alcoblade said:
Maybe. But he fell out with Collins, Butler and Maguire., in one season. Collins has no history of the ego that you're suggesting.

I've defended Clough regarding his treatment of Maguire, based on the facts as I heard them. I've heard nothing to suggest that Collins has an ego problem. Have you?

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All footballers have a ego . They need one to succeed . However IMO Collins has always channelled his , in the right direction.

Not getting the captains arm band may have knocked him a little , but he will understand , that it has been given to McEveley from a psyhcological aspect , to show Adkins has faith and confidence in him.

Adkins has to utilise what he has got , and doing that in the correct manner.

We need players with egos to succeed . League 1 , as we know , is not a place for shrinking violets.


Although a senior pro , Colins has a lot to prove this season , and so has McEveley.

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alcoblade said:
Maybe. But he fell out with Collins, Butler and Maguire., in one season. Collins has no history of the ego that you're suggesting.

I've defended Clough regarding his treatment of Maguire, based on the facts as I heard them. I've heard nothing to suggest that Collins has an ego problem. Have you?

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Collins has a massive ego problem - Whenever there is a mistake in defence he usually bollocks the closest player to him yet it was Collins who had dropped the ricket ! Very similar to McMahon - he had the same issues !
I remember particularly the slip he made to let in Crawley (at home) a game that cost Wilson his job and he spent ages looking around to see who he could berate !
 
SwissBlade said:
Well like I say, I hope Collins' precious ego is ok now in case we get drubbed..

Clough isn't with us, Collins is
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Slightly unfair on Collins to say he has an ego.

He had a difference of opinion with Clough, Clough didn't like it so he tried to get rid. Collins decided to knuckle down, even training with the young lads and on his own if those rumours are true. The only time he spoke in the media was to say he loved it here and was going to fight for his place back.

Not once did I read anything by Collins where he spat his dummy out or bad mouth anyone at the club.
 



alcoblade said:
I've heard nothing to suggest that Collins has an ego problem. Have you?
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Not saying it's ego but, as others have mentioned - here and elsewhere, he does have a go at the players around him; it happened against Hull where he had a go at Basham.

That sort of public in-fighting was conspicuous by its absence in Clough's teams - and personally I think it's likely to harm the cause of the team.

That said, all players have their shortcomings either technical, physical, psychological, or otherwise; it's up to the manager to manage them and judge when it becomes important to act.
 
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