Uncle Neil’s final visit to the Lane?

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Warnock did alot for this club kept us up when he took over two cup semis playoff final and a season in the premier the thing he got wrong was the January transfer window in the prem.

And should be applauded for it.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Warnock on McCabe,i flew to Brussels and i 'thought we had resolved things amicably' sounds like a settlement,probably both were happy to call it a day.I still think that Warnock was the best man to get us back in the Premier league.

So do I.

But he would still a golden pay off if he had done so, then we could have got a Prem manager in.

Colin, one of divison two fiinest.
Never should manage in divison one.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I thought his contract simply expired. I also personally think the decision on that was made by McCabe a while before to not renew it, hence why we had the bizarre arrival of Brian Kidd – a man Warnock (prone to rely on past associations for his backroom staff) had never worked with up until that point in his career.

That was my understanding. Warnock claimed however he'd resigned, at one point blaming Sean Bean because he was swearing after the Wigan game. Neil likes newspaper headlines almost as much as he likes money.

Other than the most ardent Warnock fans, it's easy for people to see why McCabe made the decision he did.

 

[Sean Thornton]

And should be applauded for it.

Of course he should. Richly deserved. By the same token, his mistakes should be recognised as well.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

I thought it was Danny Murphy to be honest, but he was given a lump of cash. Look what he did with it.

Definitely Stephen Warnock – had a bid accepted but didn't offer enough wages. I think a week or two later he scored against us in that defeat at his new club Blackburn. Think Murphy had been linked the previous summer...

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

Allowing Warnock to leave and replacing him with Bryan 'F***ing' Robson was the biggest mistake McCabe made,that decision alone set us back 10 years.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Of course he should. Richly deserved. By the same token, his mistakes should be recognised as well.

Refer to post #122

 

[Silent Blade]

Allowing Warnock to leave and replacing him with Bryan 'F***ing' Robson was the biggest mistake McCabe made,that decision alone set us back 10 years.

Yes appointing Robson as the new manager was shocking. It was Turry who persuaded McCabe

 

[Dkc]

At the time, most fans were on board with the decision, Robbo was a winner, a battler, successful England captain, and a mate of Sir Alex with lots of contacts at Man U. He'd also done okay at Boro

 

[Pinchy]

Allowing Warnock to leave and replacing him with Bryan 'F***ing' Robson was the biggest mistake McCabe made,that decision alone set us back 10 years.

Not sacking OBN immediately after promotion was the big mistake. He wasn't 'allowed to leave' - he was sacked, plain and simple. Rightly so.

The issue of his replacement is entirely separate but OBN should never have been allowed anywhere near the top division. He's proved himself hopelessly out of his depth there time after time. That's why he likes the Championship, him.

 

[Dkc]

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.p...l-visit-to-the-lane.55173/reply&quote=1327250

Not sacking OBN immediately after promotion was the big mistake. He wasn't 'allowed to leave' - he was sacked, plain and simple. Rightly so.

The issue of his replacement is entirely separate but OBN should never have been allowed anywhere near the top division. He's proved himself hopelessly out of his depth there time after time. That's why he likes the Championship, him.

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Warnock has proved himself in the Premier League since, with Palace / QPR.

BTW You may not like him but calling him "OBN" and posting Photoshopped pictures of him with a massive nose isn't making your argument any stronger.*

*I admit I called him a "big nosed twat" in the OP but that was simply a method of illustrating the dichotomy of views among Blades fans

 

[Pinchy]

Warnock has proved himself in the Premier League since, with Palace / QPR.

BTW You may not like him but calling him "OBN" and posting Photoshopped pictures of him with a massive nose isn't making your argument any stronger.*

*I admit I called him a "big nosed twat" in the OP but that was simply a method of illustrating the dichotomy of views among Blades fans

No he hasn't. Very far from it. He has never lasted beyond a full season in the top league. Relegation or the sack. It's always been one or the other. He's not up to it, him...

 

[Bladesman]

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[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Yes appointing Robson as the new manager was shocking. It was Turry who persuaded McCabe

True Silent . Also a telephone call from Ferguson helped to seal the deal , after making McCabe giddy , not ever realising a job for the boys . Mistakes have certainly cost us but hopefully now behind us .

 

[Sean Thornton]

Allowing Warnock to leave and replacing him with Bryan 'F***ing' Robson was the biggest mistake McCabe made,that decision alone set us back 10 years.

Actually Turry put his mates name forward and convinced McCabe.

So far your memory on all this has been hazy to say the least.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Yes appointing Robson as the new manager was shocking. It was Turry who persuaded McCabe

Beat me too it Silent.

 

[Revolution]

At the time, most fans were on board with the decision, Robbo was a winner, a battler, successful England captain, and a mate of Sir Alex with lots of contacts at Man U. He'd also done okay at Boro

This is not true. Every Blade I know, and the vast majority of people on the message boards, thought it was a terrible appointment.

 

[Davalon]

I think there was more too it than that. NW's claim that he was offered the Pompey job - which Mandaric has stated several times over the years was not true - and his baffling decision to spend the £3m plus three salaries - "for the future" did for him as much as the relegation. Once he'd refused to sign the new contract there was nothing on the table for him. Fair accompli.

I thought it was Danny Murphy to be honest, but he was given a lump of cash. Look what he did with it.

Robson is a whole different kettle of fish though.

I thought it was Murphy too tbh. He's certainly alluded to that since.

Joey Barton (gulp) was also a target for the summer if we stayed up.

 

[exmoor beast]

Old Neil is up with the best utd managers I've seen and yes my first was John Harris, 70/71, Porterfields era was a good one and not much in between apart from Neil to Chris wilder, down points too many, Heath era springs to mind.

 

[Silent Blade]

At the time, most fans were on board with the decision, Robbo was a winner, a battler, successful England captain, and a mate of Sir Alex with lots of contacts at Man U. He'd also done okay at Boro

Not to me!

 

[LoughboroBlade]

This is not true. Every Blade I know, and the vast majority of people on the message boards, thought it was a terrible appointment.

For anyone that dares revisit the announcement thread:

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/bryan-robson-is-our-new-manager.6812/

 

[Billyblade]

Not sacking OBN immediately after promotion was the big mistake. He wasn't 'allowed to leave' - he was sacked, plain and simple. Rightly so.

The issue of his replacement is entirely separate but OBN should never have been allowed anywhere near the top division. He's proved himself hopelessly out of his depth there time after time. That's why he likes the Championship, him.

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I've said this on many occasion.
After promotion to the PL we should have said to him "Nice one Neil, mission accomplished, thank you very much and goodbye. Here's a £1m bonus, go and get a new tractor or summat" Big mistake to let him loose in the Prem.
Question is, was it a big mistake to let him go after relegation? Could he have got us straight back up again?

 

[Dkc]

I've said this on many occasion.
After promotion to the PL we should have said to him "Nice one Neil, mission accomplished, thank you very much and goodbye. Here's a £1m bonus, go and get a new tractor or summat" Big mistake to let him loose in the Prem.
Question is, was it a big mistake to let him go after relegation? Could he have got us straight back up again?

I agree if we had a replacement lined up who was likely to be better. Warnock nearly did it, but not only did we have to fight against the opposition teams, we also had referees and the PL bosses against us. Warnock's confrontational attitude was maybe more suited to the Championship.

Managers are rarely if ever sacked after achieving promotion, but in some cases they should be. I agree he should have stayed after relegation but its easy to say that in hindsight

 

[I should coco]

At the time, most fans were on board with the decision, Robbo was a winner, a battler, successful England captain, and a mate of Sir Alex with lots of contacts at Man U. He'd also done okay at Boro

I'm not Spartacus either!.

I never met one fan who regularly attended who wanted him. He'd got plenty of mates in the papers but precious few anywhere with an 'S' in the postcode.

I'd have had a punt with McCall or Coleman who could have related to the players and the fans, rather than Mogadon Man and his "it's just another game" line when we lost at the Sty.

 

[BushBlade]

I've said this on many occasion.
After promotion to the PL we should have said to him "Nice one Neil, mission accomplished, thank you very much and goodbye. Here's a £1m bonus, go and get a new tractor or summat" Big mistake to let him loose in the Prem.
Question is, was it a big mistake to let him go after relegation? Could he have got us straight back up again?

With hindsight, you're probably right. Since then both Newcastle and Southampton sacked their managers shortly after being promoted but at the time it was more or less unheard of. And, if you go against the received wisdom and fail, you look like an idiot; if we'd sacked Warnock and still gone down KM would have looked the biggest bellend in football.

People like to overcomplicate things. The bottom line is that we had one of the lowest budgets in the PL so the likelihood was that we'd go down. I keep reading that it was down to Warnock's tactics. No it wasn't, we had a team of decent championship players and a couple of PL players, one who was on his way out and had a gambling problem.

The idea that we'd have done better if we were more attacking is just baseless speculation. We probably wouldn't have, our most effective players were defensive players, we didn't have a strong attack. We'd have been twatted on a regular basis if we'd tried to play open expansive football. And the psychological effects on the players getting turned over regularly would have been debilitating. We'd have finished with fewer points.

Warnock wasn't perfect, far from it, but he's head and shoulders above most of the managers we've had in my lifetime.

 

[Billyblade]

With hindsight, you're probably right. Since then both Newcastle and Southampton sacked their managers shortly after being promoted but at the time it was more or less unheard of. And, if you go against the received wisdom and fail, you look like an idiot; if we'd sacked Warnock and still gone down KM would have looked the biggest bellend in football.

People like to overcomplicate things. The bottom line is that we had one of the lowest budgets in the PL so the likelihood was that we'd go down. I keep reading that it was down to Warnock's tactics. No it wasn't, we had a team of decent championship players and a couple of PL players, one who was on his way out and had a gambling problem.

The idea that we'd have done better if we were more attacking is just baseless speculation. We probably wouldn't have, our most effective players were defensive players, we didn't have a strong attack. We'd have been twatted on a regular basis if we'd tried to play open expansive football. And the psychological effects on the players getting turned over regularly would have been debilitating. We'd have finished with fewer points.

Warnock wasn't perfect, far from it, but he's head and shoulders above most of the managers we've had in my lifetime.

Nobody will believe me which is understandable and my mates have probably had too much alcohol since to remember but I did say it at the time that we should have got rid when we got promoted.
There are plenty of occasions where players are deemed not good enough for the step up (plenty of it from inside our own camp at the minute) so why not with Managers?

 

[Davalon]

I've said this on many occasion.
After promotion to the PL we should have said to him "Nice one Neil, mission accomplished, thank you very much and goodbye. Here's a £1m bonus, go and get a new tractor or summat" Big mistake to let him loose in the Prem.
Question is, was it a big mistake to let him go after relegation? Could he have got us straight back up again?

In fairness I think that was the idea but we weren't willing to risk the wrath of the fans in doing so, and therefore resorted to other measures. Warnock swallowed it reluctantly at the time and hence showed off during the Prem season as discussed earlier.

Maybe.

 

[Davalon]

I agree if we had a replacement lined up who was likely to be better. Warnock nearly did it, but not only did we have to fight against the opposition teams, we also had referees and the PL bosses against us. Warnock's confrontational attitude was maybe more suited to the Championship.

Managers are rarely if ever sacked after achieving promotion, but in some cases they should be. I agree he should have stayed after relegation but its easy to say that in hindsight

Robson?

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

Actually Turry put his mates name forward and convinced McCabe.

So far your memory on all this has been hazy to say the least.

It was McCabes decision,as always thats where the buck stops !!!