Transfer Deadline Day Thread

[Champagneblade]

As I said, worst case you use him there IF Doherty is unavailable. The point being we have some options. Whereas up front we have just flogged the 3 players who created most of the goals from the 4-2-3-1 formation last season. We have replaced that 3 with Donovan, who admittedly looks a real player and BBD, who may do ok for us again. This is despite Wilder saying that we needed to strengthen that area before anyone was sold.

We needed a CAM or a LW. Anyone who could cause problems and create chances in that area of the pitch. We didn't need another player who can cover RB and CDM, if the players that Wilder has already signed are any good.

This taps onto the historical ethos of the Club.

Bournemouth - when Real Madrid came knocking for their defender they said ‘ok’ but only when we have a replacement. The deals happened same day more or less.

United - when someone, anyone, waives a cheque we can’t wait to snaffle it. We’re doe eyed with the prospect of a cash windfall. It’s such a tinpot way to operate.

Let’s face it, it’s happened most of our lives. It’s not good enough and teams like Bournemouth showed us the way. BIr it seemed regardless of what came in, we were intent on spending not a dime in fees.

 

[Sean Thornton]

This taps onto the historical ethos of the Club.

Bournemouth - when Real Madrid came knocking for their defender they said ‘ok’ but only when we have a replacement. The deals happened same day more or less.

United - when someone, anyone, waives a cheque we can’t wait to snaffle it. We’re doe eyed with the prospect of a cash windfall. It’s such a tinpot way to operate.

Let’s face it, it’s happened most of our lives. It’s not good enough and teams like Bournemouth showed us the way. BIr it seemed regardless of what came in, we were intent on spending not a dime in fees.

Owned by billionaire Bill Foley. Let’s make sensible ownership comparisons please.

 

[Champagneblade]

Owned by billionaire Bill Foley. Let’s make sensible ownership comparisons please.

That’s irrelevant. I’m referring to lining up a replacement once you know a player may be going out. Even Peterborough did that when they sold us Burrows.

We actually did this properly once when we had Koné lined up should Berge have moved on during one of the windows.

Here we accepted O’Hare bid and had nobody identified to replace him.

 

[Sean Thornton]

That’s irrelevant. I’m referring to lining up a replacement once you know a player may be going out. Even Peterborough did that when they sold us Burrows.

We actually did this properly once when we had Koné lined up should Berge have moved on during one of the windows.

Here we accepted O’Hare bid and had nobody identified to replace him.

Billionaire owner. That should give you a clue. Here’s another one, there isn’t the money to sign a replacement.

 

[10p]

Can we really blame the recruitment team when their remit consists of 'we have no money, go and 'buy' players the cost nothing'?
(Well Yes, we can blame them for some of it.)

 

[Blade In Flame]

Billionaire owner. That should give you a clue. Here’s another one, there isn’t the money to sign a replacement.

Makes you wonder how little old 10,000 capacity Bournemouth could attract such investment over the likes of Sheffield with its decent attendances at both clubs, its er, er, close driving distance to the Peak District and its errrrrr, City of Sanctuary status? Mind you, from what I've seen in recent articles about Bournemouth, it's now got more sanctuary than Sheffield has, so fair play to the owner for being ahead of the game in that respect.

 

[Champagneblade]

Billionaire owner. That should give you a clue. Here’s another one, there isn’t the money to sign a replacement.

Ha ha. Why such a condescending tone Sean? You have a different view, that’s fine.

If Callum O’Hare hadn’t left we wouldn’t have stopped paying his wages. I appreciate the club has not turned down opportunities to make savings but it isn’t clear they needed to absolutely take O’Hare’s fee, substantial wages and have none left to replace at all. Wilder said they’d tried. But they tried clearly too late. So if they did try ergo there must have been some cash there so that casts doubt on your second statement.

It’s not an outlandish point to suggest the club should have anticipated and had a replacement lined up for someone before you are considering selling. It’s good business practice. It doesn’t mean you have to buy first, but you can line something up.

I didn’t at any point state this has to be a fee driven acquisition.

Some realistic options:
There are free transfers and loans who went elsewhere or were/are available.

There’s a lad Ito being debated elsewhere on this site. There is the lad Gilbert who played for Boro, available on a free. Marco Richter has been released by Mainz and was getting an assist every 3 games in The German second tier. Weren’t we supposedly looking at Germany?

There’s players that didnt leave their clubs. Hull now have a 34 man squad. Players like Matt Crooks and Kieran Dowell won’t play much though Crooks was a sub for the first game.

Then there are those that went on loan; Kamari Doyle joined Leicester from Brighton on loan. Prior year he scored 4 and assisted 7 for Reading on loan. Bringing him up a level is similar to what we did with Dean Henderson. Mavididi can play as a second striker as well as winger and ended up at Watford.

On the outside looking in it appears we were reactive.

Anyway enjoy your evening. I’m not falling out over views in the transfer window.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Ha ha. Why such a condescending tone Sean? You have a different view, that’s fine.

If Callum O’Hare hadn’t left we wouldn’t have stopped paying his wages. I appreciate the club has not turned down opportunities to make savings but it isn’t clear they needed to absolutely take O’Hare’s fee, substantial wages and have none left to replace at all. Wilder said they’d tried. But they tried clearly too late. So if they did try ergo there must have been some cash there so that casts doubt on your second statement.

It’s not an outlandish point to suggest the club should have anticipated and had a replacement lined up for someone before you are considering selling. It’s good business practice. It doesn’t mean you have to buy first, but you can line something up.

I didn’t at any point state this has to be a fee driven acquisition.

Some realistic options:
There are free transfers and loans who went elsewhere or were/are available.

There’s a lad Ito being debated elsewhere on this site. There is the lad Gilbert who played for Boro, available on a free. Marco Richter has been released by Mainz and was getting an assist every 3 games in The German second tier.

There’s players that didnt leave their clubs. Hull now have a 34 man squad. Players like Matt Crooks and Kieran Dowell won’t play much though Crooks was a sub for the first game.

Then there are those that went on loan; Kamari Doyle joined Leicester from Brighton on loan. Prior year he scored 4 and assisted 7 for Reading on loan. Bringing him up a level is similar to what we did with Dean Henderson. Mavididi can play as a second striker as well as winger and ended up at Watford.

On the outside looking in it appears we were reactive.

Anyway enjoy your evening. I’m not falling out over views in the transfer window.

You too. But l hadn’t fallen out with you just told you you were wrong as things stand financially now.