Transfer Deadline Day Thread

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As I said, worst case you use him there IF Doherty is unavailable. The point being we have some options. Whereas up front we have just flogged the 3 players who created most of the goals from the 4-2-3-1 formation last season. We have replaced that 3 with Donovan, who admittedly looks a real player and BBD, who may do ok for us again. This is despite Wilder saying that we needed to strengthen that area before anyone was sold.

We needed a CAM or a LW. Anyone who could cause problems and create chances in that area of the pitch. We didn't need another player who can cover RB and CDM, if the players that Wilder has already signed are any good.
This taps onto the historical ethos of the Club.

Bournemouth - when Real Madrid came knocking for their defender they said ‘ok’ but only when we have a replacement. The deals happened same day more or less.

United - when someone, anyone, waives a cheque we can’t wait to snaffle it. We’re doe eyed with the prospect of a cash windfall. It’s such a tinpot way to operate.

Let’s face it, it’s happened most of our lives. It’s not good enough and teams like Bournemouth showed us the way. BIr it seemed regardless of what came in, we were intent on spending not a dime in fees.
 



This taps onto the historical ethos of the Club.

Bournemouth - when Real Madrid came knocking for their defender they said ‘ok’ but only when we have a replacement. The deals happened same day more or less.

United - when someone, anyone, waives a cheque we can’t wait to snaffle it. We’re doe eyed with the prospect of a cash windfall. It’s such a tinpot way to operate.

Let’s face it, it’s happened most of our lives. It’s not good enough and teams like Bournemouth showed us the way. BIr it seemed regardless of what came in, we were intent on spending not a dime in fees.


Owned by billionaire Bill Foley. Let’s make sensible ownership comparisons please.
 
Owned by billionaire Bill Foley. Let’s make sensible ownership comparisons please.
That’s irrelevant. I’m referring to lining up a replacement once you know a player may be going out. Even Peterborough did that when they sold us Burrows.

We actually did this properly once when we had Koné lined up should Berge have moved on during one of the windows.

Here we accepted O’Hare bid and had nobody identified to replace him.
 
That’s irrelevant. I’m referring to lining up a replacement once you know a player may be going out. Even Peterborough did that when they sold us Burrows.

We actually did this properly once when we had Koné lined up should Berge have moved on during one of the windows.

Here we accepted O’Hare bid and had nobody identified to replace him.

Billionaire owner. That should give you a clue. Here’s another one, there isn’t the money to sign a replacement.
 
Can we really blame the recruitment team when their remit consists of 'we have no money, go and 'buy' players the cost nothing'?
(Well Yes, we can blame them for some of it.)
 
Billionaire owner. That should give you a clue. Here’s another one, there isn’t the money to sign a replacement.
Makes you wonder how little old 10,000 capacity Bournemouth could attract such investment over the likes of Sheffield with its decent attendances at both clubs, its er, er, close driving distance to the Peak District and its errrrrr, City of Sanctuary status? Mind you, from what I've seen in recent articles about Bournemouth, it's now got more sanctuary than Sheffield has, so fair play to the owner for being ahead of the game in that respect.
 
Billionaire owner. That should give you a clue. Here’s another one, there isn’t the money to sign a replacement.
Ha ha. Why such a condescending tone Sean? You have a different view, that’s fine.

If Callum O’Hare hadn’t left we wouldn’t have stopped paying his wages. I appreciate the club has not turned down opportunities to make savings but it isn’t clear they needed to absolutely take O’Hare’s fee, substantial wages and have none left to replace at all. Wilder said they’d tried. But they tried clearly too late. So if they did try ergo there must have been some cash there so that casts doubt on your second statement.

It’s not an outlandish point to suggest the club should have anticipated and had a replacement lined up for someone before you are considering selling. It’s good business practice. It doesn’t mean you have to buy first, but you can line something up.

I didn’t at any point state this has to be a fee driven acquisition.

Some realistic options:
There are free transfers and loans who went elsewhere or were/are available.

There’s a lad Ito being debated elsewhere on this site. There is the lad Gilbert who played for Boro, available on a free. Marco Richter has been released by Mainz and was getting an assist every 3 games in The German second tier. Weren’t we supposedly looking at Germany?

There’s players that didnt leave their clubs. Hull now have a 34 man squad. Players like Matt Crooks and Kieran Dowell won’t play much though Crooks was a sub for the first game.

Then there are those that went on loan; Kamari Doyle joined Leicester from Brighton on loan. Prior year he scored 4 and assisted 7 for Reading on loan. Bringing him up a level is similar to what we did with Dean Henderson. Mavididi can play as a second striker as well as winger and ended up at Watford.

On the outside looking in it appears we were reactive.

Anyway enjoy your evening. I’m not falling out over views in the transfer window.
 
Ha ha. Why such a condescending tone Sean? You have a different view, that’s fine.

If Callum O’Hare hadn’t left we wouldn’t have stopped paying his wages. I appreciate the club has not turned down opportunities to make savings but it isn’t clear they needed to absolutely take O’Hare’s fee, substantial wages and have none left to replace at all. Wilder said they’d tried. But they tried clearly too late. So if they did try ergo there must have been some cash there so that casts doubt on your second statement.

It’s not an outlandish point to suggest the club should have anticipated and had a replacement lined up for someone before you are considering selling. It’s good business practice. It doesn’t mean you have to buy first, but you can line something up.

I didn’t at any point state this has to be a fee driven acquisition.

Some realistic options:
There are free transfers and loans who went elsewhere or were/are available.

There’s a lad Ito being debated elsewhere on this site. There is the lad Gilbert who played for Boro, available on a free. Marco Richter has been released by Mainz and was getting an assist every 3 games in The German second tier.

There’s players that didnt leave their clubs. Hull now have a 34 man squad. Players like Matt Crooks and Kieran Dowell won’t play much though Crooks was a sub for the first game.

Then there are those that went on loan; Kamari Doyle joined Leicester from Brighton on loan. Prior year he scored 4 and assisted 7 for Reading on loan. Bringing him up a level is similar to what we did with Dean Henderson. Mavididi can play as a second striker as well as winger and ended up at Watford.

On the outside looking in it appears we were reactive.

Anyway enjoy your evening. I’m not falling out over views in the transfer window.

You too. But l hadn’t fallen out with you just told you you were wrong as things stand financially now. 😁
 
Ha ha. Why such a condescending tone Sean? You have a different view, that’s fine.

If Callum O’Hare hadn’t left we wouldn’t have stopped paying his wages. I appreciate the club has not turned down opportunities to make savings but it isn’t clear they needed to absolutely take O’Hare’s fee, substantial wages and have none left to replace at all. Wilder said they’d tried. But they tried clearly too late. So if they did try ergo there must have been some cash there so that casts doubt on your second statement.




There’s players that didnt leave their clubs. Hull now have a 34 man squad. Players like Matt Crooks and Kieran Dowell won’t play much though Crooks was a sub for the first game.
Crooks played full game against Man U but missed the last match because of a quadriceps injury but is expected to be available for the next match.
 
Settle things down? Wilder can go with the owners!! He needs to stop gaslighting the fans and stop taking the fans for mugs.
How so?
He had to work with both hands tied behind his back.
The owners manage the finances, not Wilder nor Bettis. They have to work within the parameters set by the board of directors.
Wilder has to front everything since the doodles say fuck all and hide. He’s not going to publicly slate the tossers, is he? That would be stupidity bordering on insanity. He has to suck it up and put on the mask and tell it like it isn’t.
It’s not that hard to fathom is it?
 
I expect Wilder has been played just like we have. He can t tell us what he wants to say.

The main thing he's said is frees and loans. Which is what it's been. I'm sure if he could sign permanent players he would but they've got to be good. Last years permanent signings by the board were crap bar McGuiness in my view who I think could be useful but he'll be behind Kitchen now anyway
McG is Gash.
Kitching is a left pegger CB so I expect him to partner Tanga, when on board. McG will warm the bench until he goes in January.
He was half decent on Tuesday night. He’s made a great block to deny a goal but he got caught under the cross for their second. It was his man.
 
It is absolutely laughable and disgraceful we didnt have a list of backups for these eventualities.

Why are we not at least taking a small gamble on a league 1 player?

How are there ZERO loans available from one of the top 6 clubs?

Our scouting team have basically had the whole summer off.
I can imagine there is a whole prioritised list of positions, attributes, targets and options.
Means nowt if the directors sit on their arses and spend nowt. The team obviously had a target list prepared and contingency lists in case of sales. Doesn’t mean you can action any of it if there are no funds made available.
How hard is it to recognise that?🤷‍♂️
 
Truely Pathetic -

He’s signed his own death warrant with his cowardice on the recruitment - his entire focus has been on completely the wrong areas of the pitch

The scouting department and wilder should hang their heads in shame. There wasn’t a single player in The entire world that could add some creativity to us? Jamie Shackleton we will be relying on as next man up in the likely event of an injury.

Waste of a season, waste of everyone time.

Wanking on about not wanting ‘inexperienced’ loans - he’s not managed to fill his loan allotment. Still managed to sign a load of back up defenders.

next 10 months are a write off already - just hope we do enough ti stay up.

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We've now missed the best chance to sell Seriki, Burrows, Cannon and possibly Peck

None will fetch a bigger fee than they would have this window

We need to maximise sales, always but especially now, and really we should have sold at least two of the above - one in particular

We now need to do all we can to maintain their value until January. Burrows can't just be a sub, for a start. Peck needs to perform. Cannon needs a few more goals
 



Wilfred Zaha is available on a free transfer. OK highish wages but no fee, and at championship level he should still be able to stand out
 
i think cleary was going to be the one for our left wing issues but obviously these yanks pulled the plug on that one
 
McG is Gash.
Kitching is a left pegger CB so I expect him to partner Tanga, when on board. McG will warm the bench until he goes in January.
He was half decent on Tuesday night. He’s made a great block to deny a goal but he got caught under the cross for their second. It was his man.
It was his man I agree. I still like him and he's much better than some think but I'm sure Kitching will be in as you say. He is a good player, Kitching. Really pleased he's signed
 
It was his man I agree. I still like him and he's much better than some think but I'm sure Kitching will be in as you say. He is a good player, Kitching. Really pleased he's signed

Kitching is miles above McG! There is literally no comparrison! One of them was in a defense that walked the league and conceaded the least amount of goals!
 
Kitching is miles above McG! There is literally no comparrison! One of them was in a defense that walked the league and conceaded the least amount of goals!
mcguinness only gets in the starting 11 if wilder reverts to a back 3 imo if we stick with a back 4 it has to be tanganga and kitching he will be a bench player imo
 

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