Today's Times: Jose Interview + Ched

[bricktop]

You just need to take a look at Jose Baxters crimesheet.

- Being arrested on suspicion of possession of cannabis with intent to supply after being caught in a car with drug dealers at 17
- Failing a drugs test for Ecstasy
- Failing a drugs test for Cocaine.

That is three times he has been done, the first time should have been enough for him to realise the error of his way and sort his life out, the second time the penny should have dropped but he was too fucking thick, and i think the spiked excuse was bullshit, the third and final time was just idiotic.

What would happen to anyone doing a normal job if they failed a mandatory drug test? I know what would happen to me, and the spiked excuse wouldn't wash.

Don't ever want him near this club again.

 

[Silent Blade]

You just need to take a look at Jose Baxters crimesheet.

- Being arrested on suspicion of possession of cannabis with intent to supply after being caught in a car with drug dealers at 17
- Failing a drugs test for Ecstasy
- Failing a drugs test for Cocaine.

That is three times he has been done, the first time should have been enough for him to realise the error of his way and sort his life out, the second time the penny should have dropped but he was too fucking thick, and i think the spiked excuse was bullshit, the third and final time was just idiotic.

What would happen to anyone doing a normal job if they failed a mandatory drug test? I know what would happen to me, and the spiked excuse wouldn't wash.

Don't ever want him near this club again.

Also what had happened at Dublin too

 

[Smirth]

Wouldn't want him back here but I do really hope he clears himself up and gets his career back on track.

He will get a new club when back from his ban, and hopefully this year out will allow him to take stock and come back, he's a talented player and at just 24 could still forge a decent career for himself if he really wants it.

 

[Gavlar]

Wouldn't want him back here but I do really hope he clears himself up and gets his career back on track.

He will get a new club when back from his ban, and hopefully this year out will allow him to take stock and come back, he's a talented player and at just 24 could still forge a decent career for himself if he really wants it.

agreed mate, I hate to see someone piss their career away. I would have given my left nutt to be a pro footie player.

 

[sitwell]

Baxter is exactly right, as he only has himself to blame. I hope he is using the time out from the game to face his demons/grow up. My views on some of the points mentioned in this thread:

1) Wilder would have improved Baxter just like he has Coutts, Scougs, Freeman. No doubt about that.
2) A fit and mentally right Baxter would get in any league one side - including ours.
3) Baxter is too good a player to not get back into the game.
4) If he does turn a corner, he deserves another chance, just like we all do, having made a few mistakes (particularly while young) - if we learn from them (glad to hear he has been involved in educating kids on drug dangers etc).

Good luck to him - and although he let us and himself down, he did a lot more for us over three years then some other players did (goals/assists) - some of which got a final chance under Wilder.

Have never disagreed with a post ever as much as this one.
My gripe isn't about his drugs ,his fighting even his shit attitude ,he is the most over rated footballer Sheffield United have ever had. He was a gambler with poor vision who took chances with passes , 9 out of 10 he would give away ,Wilder would never have stood for that ,the complete opposite of how we play. The one pass out of 10 that did look like class was just that 1 in 10 ,which conned people into thinking he was a good player. Do you think it was just bad luck that he went from being a child superstar at Everton to dragging a club down to the bottom of division 3 in 7 years ? Even then he was played as a 'false number 9' so it didn't matter so much about him losing the ball. The guy is a complete con merchant of a footballer who was on his way to non league at an alarming pace even before drugs took over.
Regarding the drugs ,my club ,your club , our club bent over backwards . paying this wanker over a quarter of a million pounds to do fuck all until his contract ran out (thanks PFA) while he took the piss letting us down, costing us replacement players we could have enjoyed watching and yet you think he deserves yet another chance ?? Don't know about you but I would have given a years wage to play one half at Bramall lane and that bastard had chance after chance while being paid a fortune and he just laughed at us. Fuck him.

 

[Keen Blade]

rubbish job

Big tips though

 

[PokerBlade]

I can believe that he's not an addict if that's the opinion of professionals who have dealt with him but there's one question that leaves unanswered. If he'd said he was an addict then it makes sense: he lied before, like addicts do, and then he lapsed and couldn't keep straight so was caught a second time, just needed the fix too much. That'd be a sad story about a guy in real need of help. But if he's not, if he's just a recreational user, some guy who enjoys a hit now and then, and he knew he'd be tested again (as is mandatory after a first offence), why the hell did you do it twice? I have my own opinions about drugs, and I don't think everyone who's ever done a party drug is some helpless junkie, but unless he feels like explaining why he was happy to throw away a year of his career when he's not an addict, I don't see how he could have anything interesting to say. It's just another "I'm not after sympathy but..." story.

His story so far is "I'm not an addict, I'm just a guy who threw away a career for absolutely no reason.". I mean, losing a job. even a well paying one, because you didn't give the smallest of shits about it isn't a sad story. Loads of people change careers, sometimes to less well paying ones. There probably is a story behind it, and one I might have empathy for, and feel free to a real interview if you ever want our respect back.

But this

A zero-tolerance approach to drugs is understandable, but there must surely be some merit in the FA utilising Baxter’s suspension in a positive way. For example, asking him to speak to local schools, warning youngsters about life’s pitfalls. It is something he would be willing to do.

is shit.

You want someone to talk to kids about life's pitfalls, give them someone who's ready to tell it all and come back from it. Don't give me Baxter who's done nothing to show he's changed, and isn't willing to give us a reason why.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Have never disagreed with a post ever as much as this one.
My gripe isn't about his drugs ,his fighting even his shit attitude ,he is the most over rated footballer Sheffield United have ever had. He was a gambler with poor vision who took chances with passes , 9 out of 10 he would give away ,Wilder would never have stood for that ,the complete opposite of how we play. The one pass out of 10 that did look like class was just that 1 in 10 ,which conned people into thinking he was a good player. Do you think it was just bad luck that he went from being a child superstar at Everton to dragging a club down to the bottom of division 3 in 7 years ? Even then he was played as a 'false number 9' so it didn't matter so much about him losing the ball. The guy is a complete con merchant of a footballer who was on his way to non league at an alarming pace even before drugs took over.
Regarding the drugs ,my club ,your club , our club bent over backwards . paying this wanker over a quarter of a million pounds to do fuck all until his contract ran out (thanks PFA) while he took the piss letting us down, costing us replacement players we could have enjoyed watching and yet you think he deserves yet another chance ?? Don't know about you but I would have given a years wage to play one half at Bramall lane and that bastard had chance after chance while being paid a fortune and he just laughed at us. Fuck him.

Wow - out of all the posts on here over the years! I must get a badge or something. Have a look back at his goals and assists over his career here (if he hasnt been wiped from history) - shows he did a bit more then 1 in 10 good passes.

Yes, I think he deserves another chance at getting his life and career, back on track. Just as other people do, who make mistakes in life. I never said he should be given another chance at our club (which is I think the assumption you have made, and the cause of your gripe).

But it's all about opinions - if we all had the same one, it would be boring.

 

[sitwell]

Wow - out of all the posts on here over the years! I must get a badge or something. Have a look back at his goals and assists over his career here (if he hasnt been wiped from history) - shows he did a bit more then 1 in 10 good passes.

Yes, I think he deserves another chance at getting his life and career, back on track. Just as other people do, who make mistakes in life. I never said he should be given another chance at our club (which is I think the assumption you have made, and the cause of your gripe).

But it's all about opinions - if we all had the same one, it would be boring.

Not having a go at you btw

Why does he deserve another chance ? He didn't learn first time,how many does he get ? and surely there are far more worthy players in the game who deserve that chance more ? Tell you what if I was a manager or chairman I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole ,as well as his baggage look at his clubs record when hes played.

 

[Darthblade]

Well yes, but we aren't MASSIVE though, are we?

Certainly not ....... they would have taken 80,000 to Chez-vegas and clapped louder and longer than any other supporters ever !!

UTB & FTP

 

[Kenilworth]

Bin men are paid well! id love to be a bin man.

Trash talk

 

[Isar]

I genuinely hope that Baxter conquers his demons and makes a return to football.

You are more forgiving than I am. Imagine, playing football for a living, earning great money, and the only thing stopping yourself progress is yourself. Sympathy and self pity is all he has now.

 

[BLADES1988]

Trash talk

I wheelie would!!

 

[GroovyBrad]

Trash talk

 

[Large Mendonca]

“On the first of each month, I phone them to pay £400 off my fine of £4,000 and then phone my bank and say, ‘Can you put that into the Football Association’s account’,” Baxter says.

Ever heard of a Standing Order / Direct Debit Jose ??

 

[dillis]

When you look at how well Fleck, Duffy and Coutts are playing you realise how mediocre Baxter really was. No way would Baxter get near this current team. Good riddance.

What a load of rubbish! Jose was class for us and contributed a lot over his time here, just because he doesn't run around like an idiot and has a bit of flair the old boys don't like him. Wilder would have probably transfer listed him yes, but there's no reason why he couldn't have done a Coutts and showed all the stupid fans that wrote him off, just like Coutts, how could he is. People forget that we signed Jose as a striker and under Weir he looked good but by the end of his time here he was playing deep central midfield. The only time the moron Clough played him up front was in a 4-5-1. Obviously that wasn't going to work.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Not that I've sung it often but Cheddy?

Super Chedwyn Evans, isn't it?

Well no, it should be, to give him his correct name, but most fans sing "Cheddy".

It's a bit like singing "gallon of maggots" instead of the correct verse which is "gallon of Magnet".

Note the upper case 'M' in the word 'Magnet'. This is a noun - it refers to a strong(er) ale brewed by John Smith's, but one scarcely seen these days.

It was also a soft drink when I was a lad. A bit like Tizer, but it filled up one's senses a bit more.

 

[bricktop]

What a load of rubbish! Jose was class for us and contributed a lot over his time here, just because he doesn't run around like an idiot and has a bit of flair the old boys don't like him. Wilder would have probably transfer listed him yes, but there's no reason why he couldn't have done a Coutts and showed all the stupid fans that wrote him off, just like Coutts, how could he is. People forget that we signed Jose as a striker and under Weir he looked good but by the end of his time here he was playing deep central midfield. The only time the moron Clough played him up front was in a 4-5-1. Obviously that wasn't going to work.

Jose Baxter was lacking in many areas. I saw the vast percentage of the game he played for United, and he was often anonymous, often looked unfit and unable to last 90 minutes, some people might have considered him a flair player and the odd hollywood ball looked great on the rare occasion it came off, but too often he was wasteful in possession, and to be honest he didn't look great as a striker as he didn't seem to have the pace and movement needed for a striker, and he also didn't have any sort of ability in the air. He might have been regarded as the outstanding performer during Weirs thankfully brief tenure, but who else did we have at that time who was even half decent.

There is one very very good reason why Jose Baxter didn't get a final opportunity to show all the stupid fans who wrote him off how good he actually is. He is serving his second ban for failing a drugs test because of having Class A drugs in his sample.

 

[Iceybabey]

What a load of rubbish! Jose was class for us and contributed a lot over his time here, just because he doesn't run around like an idiot and has a bit of flair the old boys don't like him. Wilder would have probably transfer listed him yes, but there's no reason why he couldn't have done a Coutts and showed all the stupid fans that wrote him off, just like Coutts, how could he is. People forget that we signed Jose as a striker and under Weir he looked good but by the end of his time here he was playing deep central midfield. The only time the moron Clough played him up front was in a 4-5-1. Obviously that wasn't going to work.

I've never written Baxter off. Yes he was decent but looking back you can see that he was never good enough. I also believe he wouldn't have been good enough to get in this current team but I always thought Coutts could do something once he got his head out of his arse. Baxter was signed as a number 10 not a striker. He was signed to replace Macca who happened to be a midfielder so theres no surprise he also ended up playing midfield. Duffy is now playing the position Baxter was signed to play and when you compare the differences the contrast is quite stark. Duffy pisses all over him. Sorry.