The we are not very good thread

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I really don't get this. So you worked out that we are weaker than last year, well guess what, lots of people have done that - it had something to do with the fact that the expenditure was about twice the income. So we're playing kids and our top earners are gone, the question is what are you going to do about it? Support the team or start attempting to undermine the manager and players and big yourself up by bitching. If you had any analysis, perspective or constructive comments about how we get out of this situation your post might be worth reading.
 



The unbeaten thing is a bit of a red herring. Loads of teams start off unbeaten, but drawing loads, then lose one and plummet down the league. Unbeaten is no good if you arent winning games. We've played some real rubbish teams, played the entire current bottom 4 and haven't beaten any of them.

The frustrating thing is we've gone from having no strikers, to having about 8 strikers but no midfield. There's no strategy, the whole thing is a mess. Ok we had to trim the wage bill, we have done that. So how about we actually now sign some midfielders to replace the ones we have lost? Never mind all the excuses, we've no money, there's nobody available etc. There must be a hundred midfielders out there available free or on loan, who are better options than having 4 strikers on the bench. There's no excuse for not bringing in somebody else, along with the invisible gallagher brother. The situation is a joke. We've got 8 average strikers, and 4 midfielders in the entire first team squad! approximate numbers, don't start doing an audit on me, please!
 
The unbeaten thing is a bit of a red herring. Loads of teams start off unbeaten, but drawing loads, then lose one and plummet down the league. Unbeaten is no good if you arent winning games. We've played some real rubbish teams, played the entire current bottom 4 and haven't beaten any of them.

Saying that the unbeaten thing is a Red Herring is the same as saying we’ve played some rubbish teams and that we’ve played the entire bottom four... We can’t help who we’ve played. We’ve played some teams that are currently in the bottom 4, but will they be there at the end of the season? Who knows.
 
Must say that the last couple of results have improved my mental health no end - every time I looked in the paper, there we were in one of the potential play-off spots.
 
My my, I am going to mhave trouble keeping up with this. Ok here goes.

bartman - in response to your points:
- Rabbit in the headlights: Wilson looks increasingly despondent and desperate, on the side of the pitch and in his post match interviews.
- Late substitutions: could have made a difference in the majority of the games we did not win. Not giving BT a proper chance, keeping faith in Cressy despite him being knackered, not bringing Porter on earlier at Wembley. There were plenty of games when it was not working and he changed things to late.
- Flynn played well at home against Notts County last season and this season against Bournemouth. In both games he was excellent. However he has looked very average in the vast majority of other games. He tracks back well, but looks too lightweight and not willing to get stuck in.
- Strikers etc: we'll see. Wilson has clearly gone for quantity and not quality and my opinion is it will not work. He has no idea who to play and it is showing. Kitson and Cressy have not been good for years, Cofie has potential but his touch is terible and he is a headless chicken, Blackman is ok but very greedy and an individual and Porter well erm.
- We are over rated basically. The bookies and other teams have not cloecked on that we are crap yet. They see that we finished 3rd last season, see the division is shite, see that we are SUFC and we get 18k plus crowds and presume we'll walk it. They are as wrong as the clapping brigade.

Swiss - Wilson quite rightly won a lot of United fans over. I actually respect him. Like I said he showed some balls taking the job, turned losers into winners, got us playing the best football we've played in ages and started making trips to watch United fun again. However it is difficult to argue that his record does not fill with confidence. Look at the facts about Wilson's teams going on the decline. Whether you side with sothall, it is clear to see that Wilson struggles to maintain momentum and often go on the decline. Couple that with the rug being pulled under his feet it is worrying. To me it seems like history repeating: happened to Wilson before and happened to SUFC before.

Vespa - me owd mucker. It is the medium! That's the problem with writing, it can be misinterpreted. What can I say though, rare geniuses are rarely appreciated. Did you know Van Gogh never sold a painting? The sunflower is now estimated to be worth £50m.

Paulus - this is a forum. A place for discussion and opinions. I am stating mine. I will be down at Yeovil cheering the Blades on on Saturday. I might be moaning on the way down, in the pub before (hopefully not after) etc but I will be singing and supporting United on the terrace. However I am not happy with the way things are at the moment. What can be done about it? We need creativity in midfield. Wilson needs extra options. Of corse we have no money, but we should have thought about that before signing numerous strikers. Wilson also needs to start changing things earlier (when it is clearly not working) and stop having faith in shite players. McAllister for example. Haul him off if he is not up to it. Fuck it throw one of the academy lads in for a game and see. I'd sooner see McFeazden, Harriot or Whitehouse play poorly than McAllister or Westlake. The other thing that we need to do is more practice of set pieces.
 
There are several issues:
Strikers- We have re-signed Cresswell (Had To), Porter (Why) and signed Miller, Cofie, Kitson, Blackman - Only two of these guys can get a game every week - whatever the salaries having to pay four players each week to sit it out or on the bench seems a waste of cash we don't appear to have!
Midfield - We have sold / released, Quinn, Montgomery, Williamson (all who played regularly last season) and replaced them with Gallagher (1 month loan) who frankly looks so far off the mark I can fully understand why he is nowhere near Leicester City's 1st team and re-signed MacDonald (best bit of business this summer) - However MacAllister is proving why he didn't get a game last season, Doyle and Flynn have proved that their brains are in their balls leaving a midfield bereft of strength, determination, guile, width and football nous!
Defence - Having sold Lowton for a kings ransom (I personally never rated him that highly) we have bought two sub standard right fullbacks Westlake / McMahon and signed two sub standard left backs Hill and Williams (both who had been on loan at the club and we all new they were crap)
Goalkeeper - Probably the only area where we got rid of an expensive liability and signed a less expensive less of a liability - jury still out on Howard!
All in all a mess- no cohesive transfer policy, no apparant plans B,C,D,etc, corners, free kicks and throw ins an embarrassment, and a manager trotting out rubbish after match interviews!
Promotion favourites- do me a favour!!!
 
Swiss - Wilson quite rightly won a lot of United fans over. I actually respect him. Like I said he showed some balls taking the job, turned losers into winners, got us playing the best football we've played in ages and started making trips to watch United fun again. However it is difficult to argue that his record does not fill with confidence. Look at the facts about Wilson's teams going on the decline. Whether you side with sothall, it is clear to see that Wilson struggles to maintain momentum and often go on the decline. Couple that with the rug being pulled under his feet it is worrying. To me it seems like history repeating: happened to Wilson before and happened to SUFC before.

I think this idea of second season syndrome is pointless argument - different clubs, players, division, the scenarios can't be compared.

To repeat... (i seem to do this year on year) You can't make snap judgements after less than 10 games of the season. Some of the players (like Kitson and Cresswell) are not even match fit.

The only thing we can do is look at the way we are playing and the results we are getting. You almost can't predict who we should and shouldn't be beating at this stage.

I expected that Donny would have been a much bigger threat, but clearly they thought that they would get nothing by attacking and came for a draw.

We need to learn adapt our game, we need to do it quick and we need to do it with players that naturally fit into positions, rather than patchworking the team.

Be patient young Jedi, comparing Wilsons previous 2nd seasons is a pointless exercise at the moment. He has proved his worth last season, slipping up at the last minute. The rebuild is in progress though
 
We need to learn adapt our game, we need to do it quick and we need to do it with players that naturally fit into positions, rather than patchworking the team.

Trouble is Swiss, Wilson struggles to get his team to adapt and for some reason we see the same mistakes week in week out - Corners, Free Kicks, Throw Ins, change of play - It's no good Wilson spouting on about 2nd half possession - we did not bring one save out of their goalkeeper on Tuesday night 2nd half - not even a tame 25 yarder on target!
 
I'm glad the manager and players don't panic as much as the supporters, blimey! Good thread this, some good debate on it but I really do think a bit of perspective is needed. We've played 7 games and ok, we've only won 2 but we haven't been beaten yet and that is a solid base to build from.

I thought we were poor against Bury and only a bit better against Donny but it's still early days and with a little bit more luck we could have come away with two unconvincing wins, which would have us sitting in 2nd place now. We're 6th and unbeaten it's not time to start panicking ffs.

We need to be better I don't deny that but it will come. We need to get Doyle and Flynn (who was starting to show some promise) back in the side and work on getting a right sided midfielder in. I am confident results and performances would start to improve after that.

We're nowhere near justifying our tag as favourites but I dont think its beyond the team to get to that standard. We have personnel problems across the middle of the park and haven't quite found the right balance up front yet but it will come. Patience.

My only slight criticism of Danny is that he could be a bit more brave about giving the youngsters a chance. I accept he is far more qualified to judge if they are ready but that doesn't mean I have to agree with him. Apart from that he's doing the best he can with an ever decreasing budget.
 
Trouble is Swiss, Wilson struggles to get his team to adapt and for some reason we see the same mistakes week in week out - Corners, Free Kicks, Throw Ins, change of play - It's no good Wilson spouting on about 2nd half possession - we did not bring one save out of their goalkeeper on Tuesday night 2nd half - not even a tame 25 yarder on target!

I agree, the point to Ollessendro was that the comparison to 2nd season syndrome is worthless.

But you're right Fiery Blade this is the issue that should be discussed
 
Inspired by the comments about last night’s game, Ollessendro brings to you the ‘we are not very good thread’.

It is like Ronseal: does exactly what it says on the tin. We are very fucking average. Far from being good.
I think most people have started to wake up and smell the coffee after 4 shocking draws against dire opposition and 2 unconvincing wins. Many predicted it after the end of last season and more are realising now. Yes there are plenty of clappers who will say we are undefeated, the team will gel, the division is not very good and la de da. But it is looking really bleak for us and I think we are staying in this division for at least another year (possibly a lot longer).

A bit like when we got beat by Burnley in 2009, I did not realise how momentous Simmo’s penalty miss was when I trooped away from Wembley. I was numb from a shocking, boring, cowardly and inept performance. I was fucked off at paying £65 to go to that shithole again and see us not score. I was thinking ahead to a summer without Sheffield United.
It did not come home to me in May 2009 when we bottled it that we had just been set back a number of years. A year in the Prem (however embarrassing under Blackwell) would have led to a large cash influx, parachute payments etc. It might have meant we could keep the two Kyle’s, the likes of Kilgallon etc. Instead we saw the squad completely dismantled. Hatchet job. The back 4 that was the best in the division was blown apart and the squad sold underneath King Kev. He was soon found out when he replaced them with dross.

Roll on 2012 and history is repeating itself. Not only the play off final (strikers being injured, not scoring, bottling it ….. losing) but the dismantling of a decent team. Just like in 2009, but now it is Wilson’s turn to see the team dismantled. 4 of his best 7 players gone. I have said it many times, but just look at Highbury’s key passes thread and the goals scored. Ched scored a hatful and created loads. Willo, Quin and Lowton all scored plenty and set up plenty. K Mac is in the same bracket, but is a different type of player. The other 2 in the magnificent 7 are centre backs.
The other worrying factor in this whole saga is Danny Wilson. Mr Wilson’s famous 2nd season syndrome. Jumped ship at the Dingles, sacked at Wednesday, MK Dons relegated, Swindon heading for the drop and he jumped ship, Hartlepool too. We’ve seen it all before. I was really impressed by the way he went about his business last year. Showed some balls taking the job, won a lot of fans over, turned winners into losers and played some excellent football. However he has had the rug pulled (bit like at Swindon) and now he is being found out. You can argue that he is working with a hand tied behind his back and he is. However his signings have been awful. His collection of shit left backs, Chris Porter, the umpteen strikers that are unproven or just not very good. McDonald is the only one who has had impact. Other than that he is lucky to have had Blackwell and ale house Micky’s signings to bail him out. He looks increasingly like a rabbit in the headlights. Last year his late substitutions and lack of Plan B were bailed out by quality, this year he has nowt.

Just take a second to think about it for a moment before you clappers start saying ‘Olle is back’ or whatever. Just look at our first team. It is not good enough. The back 4/5 is ok and K Mac and Doyle are decent. After that we’ve nowt. Flynn has had 2 good games in 14 months. Too lightweight. McAllister was not good enough for Shrewsbury, so he sure aint good enough for us. There’s so many strikers that Wilson does not know who to play. Only consistent factor is they are all shite. Cofie is ‘raw’, Blackman inconsistent, Cressy and Kitson past it and who is the other boy? Rubbish. Then we start looking at the squad players. Westlake is a Wycombe reject, Williams hopeless, none of the youngsters are good enough (though lord knows they cannot be worse than some of the dross playing at the moment) and Wilson has no faith in the likes of Philskirk, Tonne etc. We did not look very good in the first few games, but 2 red cards has left us terribly exposed.
At the moment teams are coming and parking the bus at BDTBL and taking a point. It is fairly straightforward for them, as we simply do not have the quality to break them down (unlike last season). Lord help us when teams realise how crap we are and start attacking us. Teams that come and take it to us will beat us.

So all together now boys and girls ‘we’re not very good, we’re not very good, we’re not very, we’re not very, we’re not very good!’
new to the site so not up to speed on ollie's tack,but how much did mr Sharp,and mr Evans cost when we were'nt in prem, Willo and Ched were both out of contract at the end of last season, so could and did leave for nothing,wilson second season B/Shit forced out of the vile by local mp's name 1 of his previous clubs, that had around 20k a week gates, the youth set up we, have the stadium we ,have and in, with all his faults some-one like Mcabe.Ollie does make some good points teams do come to BDTBL and park the bus just like teams do at Arsenal,Sunderland this year for 1,i don't have faith in phlli[saw his da play windmill arms]should have gone into politics like his ma did, tonne unconvinced by also,no wage cap last year, why we kept the squad we did.We as a club could'nt afford to keep that team build a bridge and get the fuck over it.So no, were not very good, go to Newport get slapped 4-0 and battle with boro fan's on there way back from Swansea.We were'nt good when Martin peter's played for us and we've only ever been slightly better than mediocre under Sir Dave.man the fuck up or get on the M62 to Manchester.
 
I agree, the point to Ollessendro was that the comparison to 2nd season syndrome is worthless.

When Wilson has lost momentium at almost every club he has been to it gets the mind ticking. When Wilson's 2nd full season at the majority of the clubs he has managed has resulted in sacking/leaving/relegation it makes me worry. At pretty much every club Wilson has had a good/very good/excellent season, followed by leaving, being sacked or relegation. It brings in to question his ability to maintain momentum, his transfer policy, how long he can motivate a team for etc. Yet you think my theory is useless. You can ignore his record and the facts. He may produce another Brazil-esque team like he did 15 years ago. Lets see.

I'll ask you the same question I asked sothall (and am waiting for a reply from) Swiss: Does Danny Wilson's record give you confidence we will do better in 2012/13 than last season?
 
new to the site so not up to speed on ollie's tack,but how much did mr Sharp,and mr Evans cost when we were'nt in prem, Willo and Ched were both out of contract at the end of last season, so could and did leave for nothing,wilson second season B/Shit forced out of the vile by local mp's name 1 of his previous clubs, that had around 20k a week gates, the youth set up we, have the stadium we ,have and in, with all his faults some-one like Mcabe.Ollie does make some good points teams do come to BDTBL and park the bus just like teams do at Arsenal,Sunderland this year for 1,i don't have faith in phlli[saw his da play windmill arms]should have gone into politics like his ma did, tonne unconvinced by also,no wage cap last year, why we kept the squad we did.We as a club could'nt afford to keep that team build a bridge and get the fuck over it.So no, were not very good, go to Newport get slapped 4-0 and battle with boro fan's on there way back from Swansea.We were'nt good when Martin peter's played for us and we've only ever been slightly better than mediocre under Sir Dave.man the fuck up or get on the M62 to Manchester.

Everyone got that?
 
I'll ask you the same question I asked sothall (and am waiting for a reply from) Swiss: Does Danny Wilson's record give you confidence we will do better in 2012/13 than last season?

I'll answer as follows... Danny Wilsons record last season gives me confidence that we will do well this season.

What does that mean? Well I don't think we currently have the form or the players in form to score as many goals or to perhaps run away with the number of points like we did last season. We won't achieve the points total that we did last season.

Does that mean we will finish below 3rd? Not necessarily. As I said earlier we need to turn the current run of draws into wins. But there are encouraging signs - defensively we can at times consider ourselves lucky, at times they have day dreamed, but generally its been daft mistakes, rather than being outclassed.

Donny were an attacking threat, yet we gave them nothing.

I still think its too early. The pace is being set by Tranmere, Stevenage and Notts County. As a benchmark from last season all three were beatable. I expect at least one of the 3 to tail off. Probably Tranmere, possibly Notts County too. Stevenage of all sides, might be the danger. Of course for each team dropping off the pace there are teams like Preston, Donny and of course MK Dons that will be there or there abouts, I expect us to be around that top 6 mix all season.

Last season, make no mistake, we should've gone up. It was our big chance with a strong side. But the side now is nowhere near as strong.

However, I think given the time, Danny Wilson and his coaching staff will turn things around and as long as we are well organised, able to deal with the physical sides and still create chances, then we will not be far off those top two slots. The difference will be taking the chances. Last season we had a 35 goal a season man. But this was a luxury as he got few injuries, just a prison sentence. This season, Danny's thinking has been focused on getting 3-8 strikers who can perhaps get 5-10 goals each but its starting slowly.

The supply lines are the problem, we don't have a settled strike pairing. It looks like being Blackman +1 which is fine. We just need the supply lines to concentrate on supplying Blackman +1.
 
Wilson looks disinterested to me. The transfer policy is a mess, i wonder if he's even involved in any of it. The whole "no strikers, lets sign a gazillion of em but have no midfield" policy smacks of mccabe-foolery. Especially the way Danny likes to play. We may as well go 4-2-4 and just hoof the ball forward with the players we've got! Either Wilson has next to no influence on signings, or he's lost his marbles. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if Danny resigns before christmas. The substitutions are ridiculous. The players on the bench are ridiculous. The lack of midfielders is ridiculous. The signings are ridiculous. Doom and gloom? not entirely. We're 2 decent midfielders away from being a good team. Just frustration that whoever is in charge, clearly either doesn't care or doesn't have a clue. One of those.
 



We are only 2 points behind what Wendy had last year after 7 games. No need to panic just yet. If we are well behind by November then I may change my mind. Look how we far infront of them we were at times. Long way to go yet
 
Wilson looks disinterested to me. The transfer policy is a mess, i wonder if he's even involved in any of it.

Wow thats one way to start a rumour!

How does he look different to last season. His look is so "man at C&A" he's been working on "Blue Steel" but has only managed C&A's "pensive man" look.

He doesn't show much emotion until at least December
 
I am not ignoring Bristol and Barnsley. I have already said that. However I am stating full seasons. He took over a Swindon side struggling and saved them in those first few months. The he had a full season where he did pretty well. Before the 2nd (full season) syndrome.

He has had a full season at United and we are currently sitting in a worse position than last year and are highly likely to finish lower than 3rd. More evidence for my (half baked) theory.

We've had one 'good' season out of Wilson (all that any of his clubs have really ever got - perhaps with the exception of his first club over 15 years ago) and now we are on the decline (like most of his other clubs after that one good season).

If you're only counting FULL seasons you need to exclude MK Dons as he only had one FULL season there.
So still only 2 out of his 6 clubs have sacked him after the second full season, even by your own definition.

Hartlepool is one of those 2 clubs and having got them promoted, they were sat in 13th in the higher division when they sacked him. Hardly a "decline" and they've never been as high in the league since.

He had 3 good seasons at Barnsley before failing to keep them in The Premiership, again hardly a failure.
He had 4 good seasons at Bristol City (9th, 7th, 3rd and 3rd).

Question for you sothall: Does Wilson's record give you genuine confidence that we will finish higher this season than we did last season?

No, I don't expect us to get 90 points and 92 goals this season because we've lost a large number of very good but expensive players and replaced them with cheaper players of lesser quality. That would have been the case whoever was the manager.

I will continue to judge Wilson based on his results and entertainment value with Sheffield United, both of which have been excellent overall so far.

I'm not sure what's to be gained by looking for reasons to sack the manager based on tenuous patterns of failure derived from juggled statistics.
 
i'll reserve judgement until after the next two games.. they will tell us whether we are any good or not.. the problem is that we have no width.. hill and macmahon simply aren't that type of full back.. funny how someone said they didn't rate lowton.. he's in this weeks prem. team of the week
 
What's totally different from last year,1-simmo's gone to universal acclaim,
2.Lowton's gone to a bigger and better club[disappointing not surprising]
3.Willo's gone[grass is always greener?] Wilson's fault??
4.Quinn's gone[see Lowton's in brackets]
5. CHED nothing to do with the club.
6.The wage cap nothing the club can do its in place.
7.if the guy from Bolton had smashed that home v Stevenage [collared Owen Coyle bout that when meet him in Orlando over the summer,that and to smash the vile.]none of these conversations would be taking place.
8.would'nt have taken the other Willo[agree with ollie there].
9.Porter as above
Think Blackman & Flynn could be good signings think Kitson will play along side him[Blackman] soon.who signed macker,and does every manager have a 100% strike rate,don't think so. Finally after reading through my previos post,Ollie want to hold an Olive branch think went into rant mode to quickly[took the chill pill to late] and wish to say your entitled to your opinion sorry if it caused offence were all Blades are'nt we?
 
good post Dublin..
please can you punctuate.. i have to read crap on a screen all day and it gives me headache :D
 
Bloody hell Swiss. No need to write an essay. I am having trouble keeping up with everyone else, I don't need your Tolstoy impressions :p

But being serious. My point is that all the indications suggest that this season is going to be tough. Something similar happened to SUFC under Blackwell in 09/10 and we did not do as well. Other than at Barnsley (and possibly Bristol), Wilson's has never bettered a decent season. The club has systemically replaced talent with inferior players over the summer. This does not bode well.

sothall - thanks for the answer (though you dodged the question).

You are right about MK Dons, he took them down in his first full season! Hartlepool he had a good season and followed it up by walking awat half way through.

So, let me try again - (bugger the 90 points) do you have confidence Danny Wilson will guide this Sheffield United team into an automatic spot this season?

both/all - I have never at any point aluded to sacking the current manager. I have nothing against Wilson. I actually tried to be objective about his appointment when it happened http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.ph...troversial-appointment-of-danny-wilson.23449/ My point is that last season seemed lik shit or bust. We fell agonisingly short and it has consequences. The team is significantly worse and nothing on Wilson's CV suggests he will turn it around this year and get us promoted. In fact judging by Wilson's failure to get us out of this god forsaken division with a miles better team, his failed attempts to get out of this league in general (4 failed attempts with Bristol and one with Swindon) and the fact we are off the pace after only 6 games, I think I should be forgivven for questioning whether he can guide us out of this division.
 
I already answered your question above.
No, we won't do as well this season because the players aren't as good.
 
Ollessendro he might not do as well, he might do better. I don't really think its the point at the moment.

Each club and job is different.

So better to focus on what way to improve
 
We are only 2 points behind what Wendy had last year after 7 games. No need to panic just yet. If we are well behind by November then I may change my mind. Look how we far infront of them we were at times. Long way to go yet

Agree not to panic yet but don't forget that Wendy went on an incredible run of results once Jones took over, in fact after they won the derby at the Sty.

The worrying signs for me are the lack of activity from the opposition goal keeper - not the results per se.
Fact is if we concede the best we can hope for is a draw as we don't make the oppo keeper workanywhere near enough and that is symptomatic of our (non) approach play.

I am not advocating Wilson being given the boot at all. Just frustrated at the lack of any cutting edge or any guile or idea of creating goalmouth action.

The other things that REALLY PISSES ME OFF is the corners and set pieces not beating the first defender - or if they do they are floated way too far so the keeper can catch it as if scromping apples or is sails way over the back for a trhow in. That's nothing to do with tactics - it's just shit execution.
 
Ollessendro he might not do as well, he might do better. I don't really think its the point at the moment.

Each club and job is different.

So better to focus on what way to improve

Exactly Swiss.

Ollie, you can compare seasons but thats all you can do. It don't mean nowt. Not a jot.
It's where we (and DW) are going not where we've been.

I personally don't think DW will get us as many points or goals as last season.
It is a big ask but if he doesn't get the team to win as many it might not constitute failure as we could still get promoted. It's not as strong a league, thank feck.

Btw It could be said that your threads this season aren't as good as last years.
After the high of the 'shed thread' you are becoming in danger of failure this term.
Undoing all your good work.
You might of left S24SU by christmas and you may end up with your rantings on BM. :-)
 
Wow thats one way to start a rumour!

How does he look different to last season. His look is so "man at C&A" he's been working on "Blue Steel" but has only managed C&A's "pensive man" look.

He doesn't show much emotion until at least December

fair point. it's more a bad feeling cos i don't believe he is stupid enough to have been making the decisions on player signings. it's obvious he had nothing to do with the players leaving, or with kitson or cofie signing, i doubt he had anything to do with cresswell. i seriously doubt he's in charge of any team affairs except picking the 11 out of what he's got. he must be getting pretty frustrated about things. it's one thing giving a manager a budget, it's completely different telling him who we are signing and who we are selling.

i've got bad vibes, i hope i'm wrong. i hope danny goes in and says look i've found 2 midfielders i'd like to bring in. the board say ok danny, lets do it. and we win 30 games in a row and everything is rosy!
 
Fully agree with Kenilworth on this one
Professional footballers - players paid to play football should be able to deliver far better set piece balls- if they can't they should be doing something else - Pub players deliver better corners than our shower!
 



The worrying signs for me are the lack of activity from the opposition goal keeper - not the results per se.
Fact is if we concede the best we can hope for is a draw as we don't make the oppo keeper workanywhere near enough and that is symptomatic of our (non) approach play.

And yet even though we are so shite going forward, we have still managed to score 10 goals.

Far from spectacular, I agree, but not far away from those around us. The early leaders have scored a few more, but that will settle itself as the season goes on... if now then we will have runaway leaders.

We can't expect to score 5 every game, we're not going to walk over every side. Shock horror, but occasionally we will have bad runs, we may even get '0' on our part of the scoresheet.

I'd rather look at the other end. Has there been any game where our keeper has been worked over?

Even v Bournemouth when we conceded 3, we weren't torn to pieces... We made some bad individual errors. So i'm happier that the last two games we've managed to work on conceding fewer.
 

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