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PeteBlade said:
Do you know what, I've no idea what I said pre season or whether I gave an opinion on what we needed.

Not being a football manager, my opinion would have been pretty irrelevant anyway.
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I don't think you would have objected to 2 permanents and 3 loans if you were told they were going to be good enough. Ever so conveniently, you can't remember what your opinion was pre-season.
 
Barney said:
Completely irrelevant. Bottom line is that the manager of the club was given enough funds to have been promoted, or at least get very near. He chose to waste it primarily on sky high wages for slow and old rejects on their way down.

If he wanted, he could have chosen to spend that money on the right types of players with enough quality. It's a mighty shame he didn't/hasn't got the managerial ability to do that.
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What was this magical figure that Adkins was given and subsequently squandered pray tell me?.....
 
Barney said:
I don't think you would have objected to 2 permanents and 3 loans if you were told they were going to be good enough. Ever so conveniently, you can't remember what your opinion was pre-season.
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Over the course of an entire season and after selling our best player, I imagine I would have expected a new manager to bring more in.
 
Barney said:
However much of a silly fortune we're dishing out on wages of the new signings. I dread to think.
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He's no idea what it was, but he definitely knows he had one, he definitely knows he's spent it all and he definitely knows it was enough to get us promoted.

Quite the self proclaimed oracle.
 
Barney said:
However much of a silly fortune we're dishing out on wages of the new signings. I dread to think.
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So the wages of the players that Adkins signed and not the other 30 odd players he didn't sign are exclusively the problem?

I think you've established beyond any reasonable doubt that you're talking bollocks on this issue.
 
PeteBlade said:
He's no idea what it was, but he definitely knows he had one, he definitely knows he's spent it all and he definitely knows it was enough to get us promoted.

Quite the self proclaimed oracle.
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It would take considerable levels of silliness to think that the wages of the likes of Hammond couldn't have been better spent on younger players without the reputation but actually more ability.
 
Tyler Durden said:
So the wages of the players that Adkins signed and not the other 30 odd players he didn't sign are exclusively the problem?

I think you've established beyond any reasonable doubt that you're talking bollocks on this issue.
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I'm not convinced you're up to speed with the issue you're trying to talk about actually. My point is that what we have dished out on a fee and are dishing out on no doubt astronomical wages would have been enough for promotion had they have been the right players.

I happen to predict that young and upcoming players from the lower leagues won't be demanding any more in wages than the likes of Hammond. Perhaps that's oh so presumptive of me.
 
I just wonder what happened to Barney as a kid to make him such a complete dickhead. It can't be an act, no one is this good at acting all the time.
 
Barney said:
I'm not convinced you're up to speed with the issue you're trying to talk about actually. My point is that what we have dished out on a fee and are dishing out on no doubt astronomical wages would have been enough for promotion had they have been the right players.

I happen to predict that young and upcoming players from the lower leagues won't be demanding any more in wages than the likes of Hammond. Perhaps that's oh so presumptive of me.
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Of course you're not.
Your next step will be to tell him he's not as clever as you are.
Surprised it's taken you this long.
 
Barney said:
I'm not convinced you're up to speed with the issue you're trying to talk about actually. My point is that what we have dished out on a fee and are dishing out on no doubt astronomical wages would have been enough for promotion had they have been the right players.

I happen to predict that young and upcoming players from the lower leagues won't be demanding any more in wages than the likes of Hammond. Perhaps that's oh so presumptive of me.
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Which then begs the questions, what are United paying these signings of Adkins' and how is this exclusively the problem rather than the 30 odd players that Adkins had fuck all to do with?
 
PeteBlade said:
Of course you're not.
Your next step will be to tell him he's not as clever as you are.
Surprised it's taken you this long.
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He'd be on fairly shakey ground if he attempted to bring intelligence into the argument, and that's just based on this thread alone.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Which then begs the questions, what are United paying these signings of Adkins' and how is this exclusively the problem rather than the 30 odd players that Adkins had fuck all to do with?
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As I have said a countless number of times, if the money was spent on bringing in the right players, of whom won't have wanted anything near the wages some of those we've signed are on, this would have been enough for promotion regardless of the players that were already here.
 



Barney said:
As I have said a countless number of times, if the money was spent on bringing in the right players, of whom won't have wanted anything near the wages some of those we've signed are on, this would have been enough for promotion regardless of the players that were already here.
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So what are Adkin's 5 on, who should we have brought in instead, and what wages would they have wanted?
 
Barney said:
As I have said a countless number of times, if the money was spent on bringing in the right players, of whom won't have wanted anything near the wages some of those we've signed are on, this would have been enough for promotion regardless of the players that were already here.
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At which point you'd be the first to accuse Adkins of signing nobodies. It's actually possible to predict your response to any given situation.
 
PeteBlade said:
So what are Adkin's 5 on, who should we have brought in instead, and what wages would they have wanted?
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Most sensible people will accept that players in the lower divisions would not have wanted as much in wages as what the players we have signed did.
 
Tyler Durden said:
At which point you'd be the first to accuse Adkins of signing nobodies. It's actually possible to predict your response to any given situation.
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I have actually long been an advocate of the subtlety in signing said "nobodies" that actually turn out to be great players for league one.
 
Barney said:
Most sensible people will accept that players in the lower divisions would not have wanted as much in wages as what the players we have signed did.
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Ah, "the players in the lower leagues". At least you're not vague or anything.
 
Barney said:
I have actually long been an advocate of the subtlety in signing said "nobodies" that actually turn out to be great players for league one.
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I'm sure you are, provided they aren't signed by somebody who you have a vendetta against.
 
PeteBlade said:
Ah, "the players in the lower leagues". At least you're not vague or anything.
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All we had to do was sign 5 players from the Isthmian League Divison One South for a tenner a week and we'd be pissing the league. Adkins Out.
 
Tyler Durden said:
I'm sure you are, provided they aren't signed by somebody who you have a vendetta against.
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I have vendettas against managers who waste a lot of money on signing players who aren't good enough for league one of all divisions, yes. How unfair of me.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Evidently. That's a 100% record.
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Are you mightily sure about that? I don't know where he got the inspiration. What an individual and original decision it was to bring in a former player that also happens to be a blade. I bet he thought of that all by himself, and without the help of the majority of the fanbase talking about it.

Shame 100% of the one's he's actually ad to think about and put some managerial ability in to and 80% of all of his signings have turned out to be complete and utter garbage isn't it?
 
Barney said:
Are you mightily sure about that? I don't know where he got the inspiration. What an individual and original decision it was to bring in a former player that also happens to be a blade. I bet he thought of that all by himself, and without the help of the majority of the fanbase talking about it.

Shame 100% of the one's he's actually ad to think about and put some managerial ability in to and 80% of all of his signings have turned out to be complete and utter garbage isn't it?
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Him being "A Blade" would have played zero impact on his decision to sign a proven striker who has played for him at 3 other clubs.

It would be "beyond silliness" to think that played any part.
 



Barney said:
Are you mightily sure about that? I don't know where he got the inspiration. What an individual and original decision it was to bring in a former player that also happens to be a blade. I bet he thought of that all by himself, and without the help of the majority of the fanbase talking about it.

Shame 100% of the one's he's actually ad to think about and put some managerial ability in to and 80% of all of his signings have turned out to be complete and utter garbage isn't it?
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So, signing our top scorer was a bad idea because he happens to support the club? What a bastard Adkins is.
 
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