The return of mardy Chris

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CW in the SU website post match comments:

If you watch it to the end - "We certainly let everyone down last night and I'm part of that".

So much for not taking any responsibility as stated in several posts last night.

WDS.
 
He said nothing from either CF

McGuinness is shite, full stop.
Anyone who knows anything about ankles would know that McGuiness shouldn't have been on the pitch. The way his ankle went there is no way he is fully recovered but because of Mees absence and Wilders apparent mistrust of Bindon he was playing whilst injured.


Im not arguing whether he s good enough or not as that is open to debate but he shouldn't have been on the pitch anyway
 
I think it was Tony Pulis that said the game has changed and the manager is no longer in charge.

Players are on that much money, that a high percentage dont need to be playing week in week out to make ends meat and if they are sensible, can sit back and take a big wage for not doing much.

This is where the manager has lost control of the players, so shouting at players now has little effect.

This is not a dig at CW, its all through football now.

Players (wether we like it or not) are in control of the situation.

I guess players that dont like been called out, dont care as much now as they know they have a decent contract and will still be paid.

Footballs changed and managers have less control (i guess this is why there are more head coaches, now).
 
Anyone who knows anything about ankles would know that McGuiness shouldn't have been on the pitch. The way his ankle went there is no way he is fully recovered but because of Mees absence and Wilders apparent mistrust of Bindon he was playing whilst injured.


Im not arguing whether he s good enough or not as that is open to debate but he shouldn't have been on the pitch anyway
Cos he’s gash
 
I think people are blowing it out of all proportion, probably due to their own agendas.

What Wilder said was spot on and he's every right to say it.
I can't tell you how much I prefer that ownership of the situation to Selles talking technical nonsense in monotone, broken English.

The squad doesn't lack talent, but it does lack heart. We could really use 3/4 players from the old school (I can't believe how spoiled we were with Baldock, JOC, Egan, Basham, Fleck, Sharp, McGoldrick etc.)
 
I'm taking bets on when Fallowfield's mask will finally slip. Atm he's only pressing little buttons but it won't be too long now until he just can't help himself, and out he pops in all his old "glory". Then it's back to bye bye's until his next persona appears a month or 2 later.
 
Leicester 2 - 0 Blades in 2020 in the PL.
Same, post match, 'nothing to do with me' presser when he openly criticised the team. The start of that teams downfall.

It's what he does. Laps it up and part of it when we win and a total deflective attitude change when we don't.

The best managers manage and check their emotions, and praise in public but criticise in private.
You must have been so excited to stick the knife into Wilder again once we lost. Have you been pacing up and down frustrated the last few weeks with nothing to slag him off about? Everything he said was bang on and would have been said in the dressing room. Sometimes players need a reality check
 
Fantastic interview. If our sensitive little flowers don't like a few home truths after turning in that unacceptable turd of a performance in - there's the door. I suggest they use it.
No issue at all with criticising the players. I do wonder if he needed to be quite so scathing when there were definitely things he coukd consider in his own performance too.

442 didn't work last night. We couldn't get the ball forward without hoofing it and never got close to sustaining attacks. Our first half attacks came from WBA errors. Desperately needed an extra player centrally to do a better job in possession and try to cut out WBA's ability to attack through there as well.

It's not all just 'try harder'. There are times when you need to adapt how you're playing.

Players were poor. Plenty of blame for the manager to share with them too. I'd have preferred him to reflect on the progress, be clear it wasn't acceptable to lose so many battles but talk about us having a clear template of what's required based on recent performances.
 
No issue at all with criticising the players. I do wonder if he needed to be quite so scathing when there were definitely things he coukd consider in his own performance too.

442 didn't work last night. We couldn't get the ball forward without hoofing it and never got close to sustaining attacks. Our first half attacks came from WBA errors. Desperately needed an extra player centrally to do a better job in possession and try to cut out WBA's ability to attack through there as well.

It's not all just 'try harder'. There are times when you need to adapt how you're playing.

Players were poor. Plenty of blame for the manager to share with them too. I'd have preferred him to reflect on the progress, be clear it wasn't acceptable to lose so many battles but talk about us having a clear template of what's required based on recent performances.

I totally disagree. I think those effort levels in any system would result in similar. Don't compete, get beat. West Brom were all over the gaff first half and even a half assed approach would've left them with a mountain to climb. They were gagging to get beat.

The slight issue I have is that two or three have extenuating circumstances (Seriki, lads with flu). I wouldn't put them on the same level when it comes to "deserving to be dragged". That said I don't like giving players excuses so that's a tough one. Is giving passes a better or worse strategy than "this isn't collectively unacceptable". I'm not sure.
 
No issue at all with criticising the players. I do wonder if he needed to be quite so scathing when there were definitely things he coukd consider in his own performance too.

442 didn't work last night. We couldn't get the ball forward without hoofing it and never got close to sustaining attacks. Our first half attacks came from WBA errors. Desperately needed an extra player centrally to do a better job in possession and try to cut out WBA's ability to attack through there as well.

It's not all just 'try harder'. There are times when you need to adapt how you're playing.

Players were poor. Plenty of blame for the manager to share with them too. I'd have preferred him to reflect on the progress, be clear it wasn't acceptable to lose so many battles but talk about us having a clear template of what's required based on recent performances.
The players were so bad, I couldn't decide whether I thought we were overrun in midfield or not. No system works when nearly every player is taking horrendous first touches and passing it straight to the opposition.

That makes it hard to criticise Wilder's tactics. But his job isn't just tactics, it's motivating and conditioning the players to perform. Ultimately, he's the one that will get sacked if they keep playing like that, and it's his job to not let it happen again.

If laying into them publicly is how he thinks he can achieve that, as it has in the past tbf, then crack on.
 



The return of mardy Chris last night

ITS NEVER HIS FAULT

Coaching your centre backs to hoof the ball down the channel for two strikers who played like they were wearing lead boots - Not Chris’s fault

Bad line up - Not Chris’s fault

Best player on the bench -Not Chris’s fault

Dropping our best CB the past 2 games (bindon) for one who has been injured all week - Not Chris’s fault

Taking the best CM on the pitch off Soumare for your son in law who should be playing in the U21’s to build up fitness Not Chris’s fault

Then he has the cheek to chuck mcguiness under the bus when he was legged over for the goal

You played him Chris when he was half fit


I like wilder but not ham sandwhich wilder if he carries on like this we may aswell put Paul Mcsheffrey in charge



No Excuses though bar the stomach bug that he’s been blaming all week



Think I'd rather have the return of mardy Chris instead of the return of boring old Fallowfield or whatever guise you prefer now.
Yet again, you crawl out from under your stone at the first opportunity, after a Blades loss. Funny how you weren't as vocal last Saturday night isnt it?

Despite your strenuous effors to be 'controversial under various names, you've got "form" which, if i recall correctly, earned you a ban.

You don't actually have anything interesting to say do you? It's the same old thing: Blades lose, you try to stir the pot to get a reaction. Some will agree, a lot won't because you're a shallow, attention seeking bore. Just please fuck off.
 
No issue at all with Wilder's post match interview, I think what he said was spot on, now if the prescious players can't take some well deserved criticism then it just prooves Wilder is right their attitude stinks. Second half most of that team took the night off and were lucky the score was only two at the end.
 
I totally disagree. I think those effort levels in any system would result in similar. Don't compete, get beat. West Brom were all over the gaff first half and even a half assed approach would've left them with a mountain to climb. They were gagging to get beat.

The slight issue I have is that two or three have extenuating circumstances (Seriki, lads with flu). I wouldn't put them on the same level when it comes to "deserving to be dragged". That said I don't like giving players excuses so that's a tough one. Is giving passes a better or worse strategy than "this isn't collectively unacceptable". I'm not sure.
Fair enough. I think there is shared manager/player responsibility when a team can't attack or is getting opened up consistently to 'firefight'. Change approach, fill gaps etc. Doesn't mean it'll work but I thought last night was way too much hoof towards 2 CFs who were unable to hold it
 
The players were so bad, I couldn't decide whether I thought we were overrun in midfield or not. No system works when nearly every player is taking horrendous first touches and passing it straight to the opposition.

That makes it hard to criticise Wilder's tactics. But his job isn't just tactics, it's motivating and conditioning the players to perform. Ultimately, he's the one that will get sacked if they keep playing like that, and it's his job to not let it happen again.

If laying into them publicly is how he thinks he can achieve that, as it has in the past tbf, then crack on.
All I'll say is, if whacking it aerially at 2 CFs for an half hasn't worked, should something else be considered?
 
Wonder if he considered saying

“3 games in 6 days and an illness going round - however Performance not acceptable as a team, and when we lose I need to see what I could have done better also.
Not going to single individuals out after a great run, we will discuss internally as we owe the fans a performance next game
No excuses no one came out looking good, me down’

Just once Chris, try it, see how it lands
 
All I'll say is, if whacking it aerially at 2 CFs for an half hasn't worked, should something else be considered?
Did you watch McGuiness and Seriki try to pass the ball? Despite the fact that many of our players should be capable of it, I think it'd have been just as bad.

Even Arblaster, as tidy as he normally is, was terrible in possession. Everything bounced off Bamford and Brooks.

You've got a point, I just don't think the tactics were that relevant in this game. Wilder can (and should) be criticised regardless though, because it's his job to motivate them to perform.
 
We were overun 2nd half defence all over the shop Burrows once again was dreadful McGuiness yes he was fouled but he has to be stronger it should never have got to that those two at fault for both goals. Even Tanganga by the end was making schoolkid errors. Midfield what midfield Arblaster is nowhere near ready to play games which says it all about the rest when he has to start. Hamer did two things all game missed a sitter and put Campbell through otherwise he did nothing, how he gets the nod over O'Hare I'll never work out. Put any two up front with that sort of service and they ain't scoring in the 2nd half, criticise them for missing chances first half is fair enough. Looks like some failed to hear Wilder say he was part of the failure last night, oh and I'm no Wilder fan boy before anyone says I am.
 
The return of mardy Chris last night

ITS NEVER HIS FAULT

Coaching your centre backs to hoof the ball down the channel for two strikers who played like they were wearing lead boots - Not Chris’s fault

Bad line up - Not Chris’s fault

Best player on the bench -Not Chris’s fault

Dropping our best CB the past 2 games (bindon) for one who has been injured all week - Not Chris’s fault

Taking the best CM on the pitch off Soumare for your son in law who should be playing in the U21’s to build up fitness Not Chris’s fault

Then he has the cheek to chuck mcguiness under the bus when he was legged over for the goal

You played him Chris when he was half fit


I like wilder but not ham sandwhich wilder if he carries on like this we may aswell put Paul Mcsheffrey in charge



No Excuses though bar the stomach bug that he’s been blaming all week



He apologised and he also said we all have to own it in his interview with Andy Giddings.

We’ve lost one having won 4 of the last 6 and drawn 2. I’d accept that run for the rest of the season. It’s 2 points per game.

The Championship is brutal. It’s very difficult to win every week especially coming from the start we did.

I think you’re being harsh. He wants the players to hurt like he does as a fan. They were great against Stoke and he praised them. They were shit last night and he bollocked them. That’s how it should be.
 
Tbh when your LB looks worse in a challenge than Arblaster does after a year out then you have a massive issue.

Burrows was an embarrassment last night in the 2nd and that pathetic attempt at a tackle needs calling out.
The combination of Burrows and Hamer leaves us wide open defensively. I’m sure Silent will have the stats but I’m guessing those two on the pitch = goals conceded from crosses in from our left flank. Every team will know that and shape their attacking tactics accordingly
 
Think I'd rather have the return of mardy Chris instead of the return of boring old Fallowfield or whatever guise you prefer now.
Yet again, you crawl out from under your stone at the first opportunity, after a Blades loss. Funny how you weren't as vocal last Saturday night isnt it?

Despite your strenuous effors to be 'controversial under various names, you've got "form" which, if i recall correctly, earned you a ban.

You don't actually have anything interesting to say do you? It's the same old thing: Blades lose, you try to stir the pot to get a reaction. Some will agree, a lot won't because you're a shallow, attention seeking bore. Just please fuck off.

I love CW

Hate Ham Sandwhich CW

Ham Sandwhich wilder appears and we turn to shit
 
Did you watch McGuiness and Seriki try to pass the ball? Despite the fact that many of our players should be capable of it, I think it'd have been just as bad.

Even Arblaster, as tidy as he normally is, was terrible in possession. Everything bounced off Bamford and Brooks.

You've got a point, I just don't think the tactics were that relevant in this game. Wilder can (and should) be criticised regardless though, because it's his job to motivate them to perform.
Fair enough. I'd argue having an additional option to find without lumping it would help but either or 👍
 



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