The Prince interview part 1

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Berge on less money at Burnley than with us ? Listed by several wagesites.
 

Carlton Blade said:
Millwall, Preston, Cardiff. All £12m+ a season owner input.

With this owner, "sustainable" = Commercial revenue (£10-15m) + TV money (£8m ish in the Championship) + player sales as a budget
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I remember going from the “it’s costing me an arm and a leg but she’s great” to “We need to talk about sustainability” with my ex-Missus. Not going to lie the “Jasper Johns relationship death spiral” occurred shortly thereafter.
 
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Not going to bother wasting my time listening to his hot air and false promises again as I assume it's pretty similar to the bollocks he spouted to SUW a few months back.

Until he comes out and says he's putting the club up for sale for a realistic price that will actually lead to a bid being placed by someone that isn't a fly by night charlatan then it's all just smoke and mirrors again
 
Berkshire Blade said:
"anything we spend in January we have to recoup in the Summer"

Sounds like a mighty war chest in January and the summer then 🤷‍♂️
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Tallies with what we already knew. £20m NET transfer spend had us about breaking even on the PL money this season.
Hence, there's nothing left.

If we go down, we're loss making without sales. So of course, any spend in January would need to be recovered.
I'd rather we kept it in our pockets. Waste of time spending anything unless it's with the rebuild in mind.

Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou said:
Surprised it was only 26m in incoming transfer fees..(Berge and Ndiaye)
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I thought it was a bit more than that. I thought we'd got £15m for Berge and £14m for Ndiaye (rising to £20m with add-ons).
Seems we probably only got about £12m for Berge.

Still flabbergasted that we didn't get far more (and much higher) offers for Ndiaye.
 
So basically we are a production line .
Bring em on and sell em .
We get over 30k a week support with potential for thousands more.
We are not Luton or Bournemouth or Burnley or Brentford with a small fan base.
Try selling the clubs history , the huge fan base we have , the fact England's back 4 not long so was made up of 3 ex blades in walker , maguire , jagielka .
Potentially this club is huge but just underachievers in everyday.
We've always been an underdog club like man City were before major investment . Man City were dogshite years ago and had medium level support .
To build a club you need to keep you're best players yet sadly our reputation from currie , Jones, sabella to present day means any hope we blades have is false hopes .
 
CaptainMorgans said:
Tallies with what we already knew. £20m NET transfer spend had us about breaking even on the PL money this season.
Hence, there's nothing left.

If we go down, we're loss making without sales. So of course, any spend in January would need to be recovered.
I'd rather we kept it in our pockets. Waste of time spending anything unless it's with the rebuild in mind.



I thought it was a bit more than that. I thought we'd got £15m for Berge and £14m for Ndiaye (rising to £20m with add-ons).
Seems we probably only got about £12m for Berge.

Still flabbergasted that we didn't get far more (and much higher) offers for Ndiaye.
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It does beg the question how on earth we are going to fund a large scale overhaul of the squad, even free transfers will ask for a substantial signing on fee.
 
ancientblade said:
ive no problem with abdullah for selling both nidaye and berge they both made it clear they wanted to go the problem ive got with him is not investing at least double the miserly 30m he allowed hecky to have for squad improvement gave us absolute zero chance of any chance of survival in the premier league waste of time getting promoted in the first place if your not going to have a crack at it
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Eh?, he literally just told you we spent £50+m.
 
derbysufc said:
So basically we are a production line .
Bring em on and sell em .
We get over 30k a week support with potential for thousands more.
We are not Luton or Bournemouth or Burnley or Brentford with a small fan base.
Try selling the clubs history , the huge fan base we have , the fact England's back 4 not long so was made up of 3 ex blades in walker , maguire , jagielka .
Potentially this club is huge but just underachievers in everyday.
We've always been an underdog club like man City were before major investment . Man City were dogshite years ago and had medium level support .
To build a club you need to keep you're best players yet sadly our reputation from currie , Jones, sabella to present day means any hope we blades have is false hopes .
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We should be a production line, that should be our aim. Right now we are piss poor at it, Id much rather be competing on merit than competing on a borrowed buck. The day we sign a player we should start scouting his younger replacement

Sign a player for £10m sell for £50m 12-24 months later have his replacement who will be better ready to sign for £15m.

See Atalanta, Dortmund and Brighton as examples
 
CaptainMorgans said:
Tallies with what we already knew. £20m NET transfer spend had us about breaking even on the PL money this season.
Hence, there's nothing left.

If we go down, we're loss making without sales. So of course, any spend in January would need to be recovered.
I'd rather we kept it in our pockets. Waste of time spending anything unless it's with the rebuild in mind.



I thought it was a bit more than that. I thought we'd got £15m for Berge and £14m for Ndiaye (rising to £20m with add-ons).
Seems we probably only got about £12m for Berge.

Still flabbergasted that we didn't get far more (and much higher) offers for Ndiaye.
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Not a mystery at all since Ndiaye made the mistake of fucking off early. A season in the Premier League may have actually meant more serious offers would have been tabled for him next year. He chose to go and get abused every week by entitled Marseille fans instead.

1 and a half very good seasons in the Championship won't see crazy offers put on the table.
 
Rodley said:
Imagine trying to sell something of this scale off your own back. No wonder Dozy & Mauriss have been in the frame this last 18 months. Feels like a titanic waste of time and opportunity.
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To be fair Mauriss did also try to buy Newcastle Utd so I won't hold that against the Prince and if rumours are true he collected a fair wedge from Dozy although not the full amount he was promised hence the transfer embargo.
 

You forgot to add Brentford and Southampton that list .
Brentford have a worldwide scouting system but are a small club so need to sell .
Southampton have always had a brilliant academy but I'd say smaller in terms of support than the blades even though the saints have had success .
If you want team then keep your best players and build a team around them .
Blackburn bought the Premier league in mid 90s , Leicester built a team and won the premier )) sadly they let half the team go rather than build on it
 
UddersBlade said:
Why is anyone surprised? The Prince cannot afford either a Premier League club or a Championship club. Any money we spend we have to recoup …. ie. self sufficient…. He has told us that before.

Also I suspect that any parachute money has already been mortgaged - so hence no new money without selling first. I hope I’m wrong, but that is my interpretation of what has been said.
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He also made it clear, right from the start that he saw this as something to make money on, not to put money in.

I'm surprised he didn't put more effort into selling over the summer, when our value would have been at its height.
 
im sure its very good, but i just cant get past in my head that its just the bloke thats sit behind me at the football has started a youtube channel. hes no more an expert than me or the bloke who sits in front of me

i read on the star website (poor chris holt thats what his job entails now) that prince brought in a specialist firm to help sell the club & hopefully this specialist firm can filter out the conmen,

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Booker4 said:
Just finished watching the video. I know some think Jimmy is just a mouth piece for the Prince but I think from part one he asked decent questions. If you ask him a spicy question such as was Wilder lined up to replace Hecky from the beginning of the season as reported by the media I suspect the Prince would just waffle his way around the question because he does that at times in my view, but I thought he answered the questions pretty well to be fair.

It sounded more promising on the upgrade to a cat one academy and we know the hotel is on the way again. Also pleased to hear we're still going up bring in new players in January. So overall I'm more optimistic on the prospects post that interview. I do wish Jimmy had just posted it as one video rather than in seperate parts but that's his preogrative.
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If you’re happy - I am
 
Rodley said:
I remember going from the “it’s costing me an arm and a leg but she’s great” to “We need to talk about sustainability” with my ex-Missus. Not going to lie the “Jasper Johns relationship death spiral” occurred shortly thereafter.
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If you use Peter Ridsdale dating services, you deserve what you get.
 
metalblade said:
To be fair Mauriss did also try to buy Newcastle Utd so I won't hold that against the Prince and if rumours are true he collected a fair wedge from Dozy although not the full amount he was promised hence the transfer embargo.
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Surely we would have entertained some credible offers with a proper M&A firm acting for him late Spring this year? Waste of an huge opportunity for both SUFC & PA.
 
Rodley said:
Surely we would have entertained some credible offers with a proper M&A firm acting for him late Spring this year? Waste of an huge opportunity for both SUFC & PA.
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It was clear we either didnt have a proper firm or had Rodney Trotter Esq doing the negotiating etc which is why we ended up with a nobody who ended up in jail and someone else equally as dozy dodgy.
 
Lots of talk of signing the likes of Hamer, Souza et al with the next four years in mind - then in the next breath admitting we may need to sell them to balance the books. Personally don't mind us having to sell one or two but let's not dress it up as something else.

Also talks at length about the '£40m' he put in and won't see again. Conveniently forgetting he stands to profit, even at a modest sale price, due to the acquisition of the infrastructure at what was considered a very good price due to the court ruling.

It's a strange interview at times.
 
Wards said:
Lots of talk of signing the likes of Hamer, Souza et al with the next four years in mind - then in the next breath admitting we may need to sell them to balance the books. Personally don't mind us having to sell one or two but let's not dress it up as something else.

Also talks at length about the '£40m' he put in and won't see again. Conveniently forgetting he stands to profit, even at a modest sale price, due to the acquisition of the infrastructure at what was considered a very good price due to the court ruling.

It's a strange interview at times.
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He's a bullshitter...
 
I thought it was a pretty good interview to be fair, he's honest and he tells us how it is even if it's not exactly what we want to hear. We've had the some of the best years we've had under him and we should probably be a little more grateful than we are.

This is the confirmation bias kicking in as someone who sits on the kop, the bit he added about being able to resolve the issues with McCabe re the land at the back of the kop struck a bit of a cord with me. He gave a good explanation re why infrastructure had stalled, looks like there's some good progress happening and he's got an eye on the next stage of infrastructure development, which seems to be the kop.
 
So he fought tooth and nail to gain full ownership and control of this proud football club on a real upward turn at the time, and overall it’s appeared very positive in the main thanks to brilliant coaching staff. It is now very apparent he can’t even fund us at Championship level let alone Premier League… how anyone can stick up for him is beyond me. We needed rid of McCabe but not in this way. Bringing Wilder back was such a desperate attempt to gain any sort of credibility. Fortunately for him Wilder is genuinely the right man for such a horrible perilous position. I do fear for us when we’re down, who knows how bad things can get…
 
sheff_blade90 said:
im sure its very good, but i just cant get past in my head that its just the bloke thats sit behind me at the football has started a youtube channel. hes no more an expert than me or the bloke who sits in front of me

i read on the star website (poor chris holt thats what his job entails now) that prince brought in a specialist firm to help sell the club & hopefully this specialist firm can filter out the conmen,

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I hear you. But I don’t get the negativity around guys like Jimmy. I’ve never spoken to the bloke in my life, but surely for the reasons you stated. As in he is just a fan like you and I, should be a positive not a negative?. What’s an expert at the end of the day?. A media polished individual with no genuine passion or attachment to our plight?. I for one would rather have ‘the guy who sits behind me’ make the effort to do something like this, than some talking head from the punditry world who knows nothing relevant in terms of living and breathing this club as you, I, and guys like Jimmy all do.
All I’m saying is, let’s just all pull together hey. And be grateful of those fans willing to put the level of time required to produce that kind of content as a fundamental amateur.
I just think, agree or disagree. We should remember that we all want the same thing at the end of the day.
UTB ⚔️
 

See DS gone private on his twitter to avoid toxic comments
 
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