The most sheffield united bottlejob yet

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If we get promoted, 6 or 7 players will leave and we'll sign about 10 superior (top Champ/Prem players). So we might get relegated, but we'll improve next season... We really need to go up. And we definitely can despite our form and the naysayers.

COYB.
Very well put, I fear we may drop below boro certainly by Easter weekend as I'm not expecting anything at Norwich or Burnley. But we're obviously not shit, and our last 6 matches I'd have us winning all 6 to be honest. Yes he's picked the wrong team yesterday, fleck like Billy I'm afraid it's over, hopefully that's the last we see of him, performances haven't been great since the world cup but every one we've won its been deserved and we have been winning them all against the lesser teams so hopefully we get back on track on Wednesday night.
 



Regardless of what we do, I think it's weird some fans seem to think Wednesday would be a force in the Championship. They've just outspent the rest of League 1 this season - there's nothing to suggest they'll even avoid relegation in the Championship next season.
You think they won't spend again in the championship? They have before but this time they have a half decent manager and not agents picking who they should sign. Time to wake up.
 
I’ve got to agree this is up there with the league 1 fuck up against Wednesday.

I actually had more confidence in Danny Wilson sorting it out than I do Hecky, at least we had a bit of a style to our play. What I’m watching at the moment is utter dross
 
You think they won't spend again in the championship? They have before but this time they have a half decent manager and not agents picking who they should sign. Time to wake up.
It's not a conspiracy thread, you don't need to tell me to wake up. Remind me about the great Championship jobs Moore did previously. And even who the Championship quality core of that Wednesday team are.

They might do okay, I doubt they'll trouble the top half.
 
It's not a conspiracy thread, you don't need to tell me to wake up. Remind me about the great Championship jobs Moore did previously. And even who the Championship quality core of that Wednesday team are.

They might do okay, I doubt they'll trouble the top half.
What I know about the pigs team you could write on a postage stamp. Regarding Darren Moore he did ok at WBA many say he was unlucky to be sacked there. He also did ok at Donny the reason the pigs poached him, they have steadily improved league position while he has been there. Remind me of the great Championship jobs Wilder did before taking over at the lane?
 
The facts of the matter are that, after next weekend we will have played five FA Cup matches on top of league fixtures, which is a heavy schedule.

We shall then have a much needed break which should be of immense help to reset the players physically and mentally for the run in.

We will resume in second place in the league, even if by only one point.

I know from long experience how capable United are of messing things up, but I prefer to take the optimistic view.
 
We're still in automatic spot, 4pts clear of 3rd place.

Why not save your meltdowns for IF we don't get promoted.
The signs indicating we would experience what is happening were flashing red a long time ago and those who saw them were slated and derided. Yesterday was the performance of a team and management in freefall. A collective lack of belief and with absolutely no idea whatsoever how to deal with it and salvage something from the game against opposition who largely played with half a mind on the beach. Still it was enough to go home with 3 points as we wandered around aimlessly.
Yesterday was the absolute classic situation where the MANAGER steps up and gives his players a lift and self belief. Our manager has absolutely no game management skills whatsoever which has been plain to see for months. Rabbit in the headlights.

Do you, hand on heart believe our management has the skills and strength of character to inspire a broken squad to lift itself in the manner Dave Bassett would have been able to do? What do you see changing given the opposition over the next few weeks.
Funnily enough I think we'll step up against Blackburn in the cup. It will be fascinating to see if so whether that acts as the catalyst so desperately needed to improve our league performances, which have been average post World Cup at best and hidden behind a reasonable points return. Now we have both poor performances and a falling points return.
Do you think the manager has what is so clearly needed to stop this slow motion car crash?
 
The facts of the matter are that, after next weekend we will have played five FA Cup matches on top of league fixtures, which is a heavy schedule.

We shall then have a much needed break which should be of immense help to reset the players physically and mentally for the run in.

We will resume in second place in the league, even if by only one point.

I know from long experience how capable United are of messing things up, but I prefer to take the optimistic view.

We are at Sunderland on the day after Tuesday.
Boro are at home to Stoke on Tuesday and to Preston next Saturday.
Theres as much chance we'll be 2 points behind Boro as 1 ahead of them.
 
First post I have made since the final whistle yesterday, other than to Roy's View From a few minutes ago, I was just too angry, but mostly sad to see what has happened to the team over the last few weeks. As usual there are myriad reasons for this, so knee jerk reactions are not what is called for, remember this team & management got us to second & 14 points clear in the first place, & if we really were that bad we couldn't have done that.

I reluctantly accepted many poor & negative away performances because we were winning at home, but that safety first attitude of Hecky's has now permeated to our home form too, & it is really puzzling to understand why. Let's get one thing straight though, any suggestion of players not trying is simply not true, it is down to confidence. When your form dips & things don't flow it is crippling, you look like you are running in water & become tense & unsure what to do. Management should spot this & take those players out of the eleven for a bit, but if they are struggling too (mentally) it is not a nice place to be.

Perhaps this explains team selection, perhaps not, but it is clear to see Hecky's trust in certain players is misplaced, poor old Flecky springs to mind. When he returned from his latest injury I was expecting the worse, but he was actually okay, but has now regressed back to Jimmy, & though it is sad to say we won't see John again. There are more, but this isn't about slagging off the players, it is simply time up for some of them.

For me the solution is legs, because we have non in midfield, someone like Coulibaly might not have the experience, but he is young, athletic & gets up & down the pitch, as does Arblaster. If we sleepwalk into the playoffs by sticking with the old guard instead of bringing fresh players in, it will rank right up there as a very "Sheffield United" thing to do.
 
We shall then have a much needed break which should be of immense help to reset the players physically and mentally for the run in.
aren't most of the first team away on international duty?

Davies, Egan, Baldock, Anel, Doyle, Berge, McAtee, Jebbo, Ndiaye

I'm not sure we'll get much of a break.
 
Regardless of what we do, I think it's weird some fans seem to think Wednesday would be a force in the Championship. They've just outspent the rest of League 1 this season - there's nothing to suggest they'll even avoid relegation in the Championship next season.
Exactly. They have an ageing squad made up mainly of the team that, including Bannan, finished last plus players that were released by Cardiff, Bristol City, Rotherham, Hull, Huddersfield and the like.

They are hardly a team of young sprightly up and coming galacticos.
 
First post I have made since the final whistle yesterday, other than to Roy's View From a few minutes ago, I was just too angry, but mostly sad to see what has happened to the team over the last few weeks. As usual there are myriad reasons for this, so knee jerk reactions are not what is called for, remember this team & management got us to second & 14 points clear in the first place, & if we really were that bad we couldn't have done that.

I reluctantly accepted many poor & negative away performances because we were winning at home, but that safety first attitude of Hecky's has now permeated to our home form too, & it is really puzzling to understand why. Let's get one thing straight though, any suggestion of players not trying is simply not true, it is down to confidence. When your form dips & things don't flow it is crippling, you look like you are running in water & become tense & unsure what to do. Management should spot this & take those players out of the eleven for a bit, but if they are struggling too (mentally) it is not a nice place to be.

Perhaps this explains team selection, perhaps not, but it is clear to see Hecky's trust in certain players is misplaced, poor old Flecky springs to mind. When he returned from his latest injury I was expecting the worse, but he was actually okay, but has now regressed back to Jimmy, & though it is sad to say we won't see John again. There are more, but this isn't about slagging off the players, it is simply time up for some of them.

For me the solution is legs, because we have non in midfield, someone like Coulibaly might not have the experience, but he is young, athletic & gets up & down the pitch, as does Arblaster. If we sleepwalk into the playoffs by sticking with the old guard instead of bringing fresh players in, it will rank right up there as a very "Sheffield United" thing to do.
good post and certainly agree on fleck i went to the u23 derby he played in the other week and i could see that day his career here is over hecky has to grow some balls now put some of the younger players in ditch the outdated 352 go 4 at the back and start attacking teams from the off you can see the players are not enjoying this style of football
 



We are at Sunderland on the day after Tuesday.
Boro are at home to Stoke on Tuesday and to Preston next Saturday.
Theres as much chance we'll be 2 points behind Boro as 1 ahead of them.
Correct. Thank you for pointing that out. I can be a reyt dummy at times.
 
The biggest bottle job in most of our lifetimes was 2012 v them. Similar situation with double figures point advantage and a game in hand. That one will haunt us forever. Although significance wise for the future decade of Blades football history, 1979 was a killer. TOTL at Xmas, pigs 8th. They bash us and win the league, while we finish 12th and get relegated to the 4th division the year after. No need to explain how the 80s panned out for us.
Seasons like this one, if they don't work out, can have implications for many years.
 
Keeping Burnley firmly in our sights should have been the objective to keep the team focused, but of course the "We're doing well, second is good enough" attitude shone through as usual, leaving a monumental disaster behind when they fail.
Yes exactly, we’ve spent most of our time looking over our shoulder…and we simply couldn’t hack it. Burnley are already promoted but they still go about their business in a professional manner and will continue to dismantle teams right to end of the season. Our fucking idiots started smoking the big cigar weeks ago.
 
The facts of the matter are that, after next weekend we will have played five FA Cup matches on top of league fixtures, which is a heavy schedule.

We shall then have a much needed break which should be of immense help to reset the players physically and mentally for the run in.

We will resume in second place in the league, even if by only one point.

I know from long experience how capable United are of messing things up, but I prefer to take the optimistic view.
We'll only be second if Boro fail to beat both Stoke and Preston - both at home. They taken 46 points from 19 games. I expect them to take another 6. Whilst we go to Sunderland, at present, I can only see us either nicking a point or getting hammered. Hence we will not be 2nd come the return from international football.
 
The facts of the matter are that, after next weekend we will have played five FA Cup matches on top of league fixtures, which is a heavy schedule.

We shall then have a much needed break which should be of immense help to reset the players physically and mentally for the run in.

We will resume in second place in the league, even if by only one point.

I know from long experience how capable United are of messing things up, but I prefer to take the optimistic view.
Every chance we are third going into the brea
 
I’ve got to agree this is up there with the league 1 fuck up against Wednesday.

I actually had more confidence in Danny Wilson sorting it out than I do Hecky, at least we had a bit of a style to our play. What I’m watching at the moment is utter dross
Whatever, confidence you had - he failed, Auto spot - fail. Play-off - fail.
Let's hope the opposite is true regarding Hecky!
 
Those that are saying we won't see Flecky again, haven't taken into account who our Manager is. Expect to see him in the starting line up at Sunderland.
Everyone and I mean , everyone saw how poor and abject Flecky was on Saturday .

It was so painful to watch - for him as well

Now , if indeed Hecky does select Fleck on Wednesday then he has utterly and completely lost the plot and will soon lose the fans .

As an act of human kindness to Fleck - he cannot be considered.

Time will tell
 
I agree with a lot of this, JJ.

While our fans are fantastically loyal, I think this works against us at times. For example, the attitude of 'we love the Blades and will go regardless, we love our club and wouldnt have it any other way, we love away days at sh1tty L1 grounds like Fleetwood' means the club can constantly fail, without any real consequence. It's akin to a business constantly failing to deliver a service or product but the customer keeps coming back again every year. We also celebrate failure too often. Case in point losing to Forest in play offs last season, lots of fans were saying they 'couldnt have been prouder' because we nearly turned it around in the second leg. Proud of losing really isnt the foundation for success.

At some point in my lifetime, I want some sustained success at this club. I dont think it is too much to ask for for a club our size. I don't accept the attitude that 'yer' at the one club for success, pal'. This club is big enough to get into the PL and stay there. Look at what Leicester did. I dont feel something like that is beyond us. It doesnt make me less of a Blade for wanting success. Is someone less of a parent, for example, for wanting their child to be successful in life? No.

And if we do end up not being promoted after having a 14 point lead, it is another one of the mother of all f*ck ups to the portfolio (Ched season, Tevez season, Ipswich season, black Thursday, Burnley, Wolves finals etc). Actually it might top these given what is at stake.

I'm not giving up on this season yet, we are still second and if we can find the form we had earlier in the season, we can still make it. But my hopes have taken a battering after Millwall, Blackburn and yesterday's results.
Yes, they are fantastically loyal, season tickets are the thing nowadays and most people pay upfront, depending on what the club is likely to provide them with for the coming season.

We're a club that was in the Prem, made the play offs last year and had another go at it this year, keeping the squad together reinforced that belief.

Gone are the days when people just used to turn up, or not turn up depending on how good or bad a team is playing.

And next season will see a very large drop off if this season ends in the unbelievable failure it looks like it might end in
 
We are at Sunderland on the day after Tuesday.
Boro are at home to Stoke on Tuesday and to Preston next Saturday.
Theres as much chance we'll be 2 points behind Boro as 1 ahead of them.

This is true, but in that scenario we’ve also a game in hand. Yep I’d prefer points in the board but they’d be second having played more games.

I think Stoke will be the trickier fixture for them, and Preston certainly won’t be a walk over. But we need to focus on ourselves and what we can do. All our attention needs to be on beating Sunderland, but I fear if Boro get a win tomorrow we’ll go to the Stadium of Light defending primarily.
 
Whatever, confidence you had - he failed, Auto spot - fail. Play-off - fail.
Let's hope the opposite is true regarding Hecky!
He did you're completely right. My confidence somewhat dropped when Ched went to prison 🤣
 
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Who'd of thought going up with Wilder would lead to the absolute shitshow we find ourselves in now

This is Sheffield United. I guess we convinced ourselves it would be different. This is what we do and we do it very well unfortunately.

All I would say is at least put a few bets down and make some cash out of it.
 

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