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It first started in the mid seventies, kicking a ball was a lunchtime ritual in the playground and I clearly remember the anticipation of my first visit to Suggs to buy a United shirt. Jimmy Dormer's Dad took me on my first visit to the lane, a night match against Leeds, sitting in the upper tier of the BL stand, I still remember the lights, the first view of the expanse of green and the complete excitement. I was in love, not just with the Blades but with Football.

It has been an integral part of my life eversince, my colleagues all know I am a blade, I used to revel in being a full kit wanker playing 5 a side in Hull as I was proud of being a Blade in exile.

At work my calendar was proudly placed on the wall each Janaury 2nd and the Blades Badge moved each time I changed my car.

I have to apologise to my kids and my late wife for the times when football took precedent (life did change that attitude very harshly) and whilst not always a season ticket holder until the last few years, whenever I could, I would be at the Lane.

I loved the FA cup, (probably because I grew up in an era when you didn't have wall to wall tv football) and would sit there from 10 oclock in the morning watching FA CCup Final Question of sport, and all the other fantastic build up. Always with the dream that one day if Southampton and Coventry could do it, the Blades would get there.

I remember the epics, the promotions, the relegations, lots of semi finals and the ultimate, My mate getting his pants ripped off in the services on the way to Bristol for our 1st Play off disaster!

For the first time ever, I looked at the final home game this year, chucked the season cards in a drawer and said "I am going to do the garden"

The light has flickered and died for me, I look at Football and see the sport I loved as a tainted dirty thing.

The Premier League was started to "improve the England team", excuse my language but this is bollocks, it was a thinly veiled way of the big clubs diverting the vast majority of money in the game into their own greedy pockets.

The champions league further supports this process where frankly average teams pocket millions for coming 3rd and 4th in the Prem.

In the intervening 20 years it has completely tilted the playing field in favour of 4 or 5 clubs and destroyed the chance of a Clough, Robson, Revie or other talented manager building a team at an unfancied club and winning things.

Meanwhile the FA cup, the premier competition in the world has been reduced to a side show that kicks of at 5 bloody 30 after normal league games.

England will never progress due to the number of foreign players in our game and with them has come diving and cheating that is now an accepted part of the game that kids copy on school sports fields.

Latest acts of genius this season are increasing the parachute payments (lets reduce the odds even further of different teams getting promoted) and rules that allow premiership clubs to poach the starlets from lower league clubs without having to pay transfers!! (Lets just roll the smaller clubs over and shaft them)

Whilst all this has been happening on a national level United have bounced up and down in terms of league positions but one thing has remained absolutely constant? The absolute inept running of the club at board room level. I read Matthews book about the boardroom shannanigins (spelling?) and the most depressing thing was it is still going on and KM has been central to it for a long time. He was here when we sold Deane and Fjortoft and what happens again in January Miller Injured sell Blackman. Still in a position to get Automatic, sack the manager with no suitable replacement identified and appoint the guy who has struggled all season to get results from the reserves.

I have not renewed my season ticket, not as some kind of protest, but because I have fallen out of love with this game, because it is no longer a credible sport, it stinks with an odour that normally follows obscene amounts of money. My Daughter and mates are all convinced that I will crumble as the first game of the season approaches, but I think not I have realised that Shankly was talking crap and actually there are more important things in life.
 



I echo that pal,not just utd that are getting depressing,i think the game as a whole is getting repetative and long in the tooth.
I no longer get excited about any utd game,or any other for that matter.
But i will still remain a supporter of the blades for the rest of my life,just not as religiously as i used to be.
 
Pretty much my feelings word for word though I chucked the ST in a couple of years ago after 30 odd years of the Blades dominating my life.

Glad I lived through an era when football was special and United had a raw passion and spirit that was great to be a part of.

It's gone now. I don't recognise United or football now from the club and game I fell in love with as a kid in the 70s and it's nothing to do with what league we are in.

People who know me would have said it was unthinkable I would not get a ST but I did and I just haven't missed it and you have some great weekends without United getting in the way.

Can't stop loving United and taking in the odd game - once a Blade I guess - but once the habit of going to matches has gone you do realise there is a bit more to life than lining the pockets of some shit footballers who couldn't give a toss about you or the club whilst a hero worshipped owner presides over possibly the worst combined financial and league position of our club in history.

Speaks volumes that our plight provokes barely a whimper from the fans.
 
I haven't seen a game - involving any team - this season. I just can't stomach it any more. I stopped watching Premiership games (or MOTD) a few years ago, European matches before that. I think I can now only care about international competitions (World Cup/European Championships), but even that has been tainted with Russia and Qatar buying the finals.

Sad days.
 
Caveblade, the post of the year for me. Absolutely nailed it.

The thing i've noticed is that, out of all the goons running the FA, the Premier League, the Football League, UEFA and FIFA, only one of them (Platini) has played at a serious level.
The rest of the filth: Scudamore, Sir Dave the Pig, Blatter etc, have never kicked a ball in their lives.
Platini is a narrow minded piece of work but I respect what he achieved as a player. I wouldn't piss on the rest of them if they were on fire.
 
It first started in the mid seventies, kicking a ball was a lunchtime ritual in the playground and I clearly remember the anticipation of my first visit to Suggs to buy a United shirt. Jimmy Dormer's Dad took me on my first visit to the lane, a night match against Leeds, sitting in the upper tier of the BL stand, I still remember the lights, the first view of the expanse of green and the complete excitement. I was in love, not just with the Blades but with Football.

It has been an integral part of my life eversince, my colleagues all know I am a blade, I used to revel in being a full kit wanker playing 5 a side in Hull as I was proud of being a Blade in exile.

At work my calendar was proudly placed on the wall each Janaury 2nd and the Blades Badge moved each time I changed my car.

I have to apologise to my kids and my late wife for the times when football took precedent (life did change that attitude very harshly) and whilst not always a season ticket holder until the last few years, whenever I could, I would be at the Lane.

I loved the FA cup, (probably because I grew up in an era when you didn't have wall to wall tv football) and would sit there from 10 oclock in the morning watching FA CCup Final Question of sport, and all the other fantastic build up. Always with the dream that one day if Southampton and Coventry could do it, the Blades would get there.

I remember the epics, the promotions, the relegations, lots of semi finals and the ultimate, My mate getting his pants ripped off in the services on the way to Bristol for our 1st Play off disaster!

For the first time ever, I looked at the final home game this year, chucked the season cards in a drawer and said "I am going to do the garden"

The light has flickered and died for me, I look at Football and see the sport I loved as a tainted dirty thing.

The Premier League was started to "improve the England team", excuse my language but this is bollocks, it was a thinly veiled way of the big clubs diverting the vast majority of money in the game into their own greedy pockets.

The champions league further supports this process where frankly average teams pocket millions for coming 3rd and 4th in the Prem.

In the intervening 20 years it has completely tilted the playing field in favour of 4 or 5 clubs and destroyed the chance of a Clough, Robson, Revie or other talented manager building a team at an unfancied club and winning things.

Meanwhile the FA cup, the premier competition in the world has been reduced to a side show that kicks of at 5 bloody 30 after normal league games.

England will never progress due to the number of foreign players in our game and with them has come diving and cheating that is now an accepted part of the game that kids copy on school sports fields.

Latest acts of genius this season are increasing the parachute payments (lets reduce the odds even further of different teams getting promoted) and rules that allow premiership clubs to poach the starlets from lower league clubs without having to pay transfers!! (Lets just roll the smaller clubs over and shaft them)

Whilst all this has been happening on a national level United have bounced up and down in terms of league positions but one thing has remained absolutely constant? The absolute inept running of the club at board room level. I read Matthews book about the boardroom shannanigins (spelling?) and the most depressing thing was it is still going on and KM has been central to it for a long time. He was here when we sold Deane and Fjortoft and what happens again in January Miller Injured sell Blackman. Still in a position to get Automatic, sack the manager with no suitable replacement identified and appoint the guy who has struggled all season to get results from the reserves.

I have not renewed my season ticket, not as some kind of protest, but because I have fallen out of love with this game, because it is no longer a credible sport, it stinks with an odour that normally follows obscene amounts of money. My Daughter and mates are all convinced that I will crumble as the first game of the season approaches, but I think not I have realised that Shankly was talking crap and actually there are more important things in life.

Thanks Cave. The post of the year IMO.
 
Play the violin all you like but the cavemans of this world are what keeps clubs going.......... if the hardcore stop going then not just us but the game as a whole is in the shit.
 
Play the violin all you like but the cavemans of this world are what keeps clubs going.......... if the hardcore stop going then not just us but the game as a whole is in the shit.


It's unfortunate that it will be teams at the bottom of the ladder that would fold without supporters. The bigger fish could survive if the games were played behind closed doors, with no supporter in sight. Provided that is, that they cream of the T.V. money and continue their off field revenue gathering activities
Sad to say but my half full glass has sprung a leak and is damn near empty.
 
I feel exactly the same way.

I've been to just ONE game this season, and I haven't missed it.

I've gotten involved with the women's game, but thanks to the FA the evil of money is now taking over that too.

How can a team, potentially win the title yet automatically get relegated, whilst a team that's won nothing (ever) gets automatically promoted - answer MONEY.
 
Can't fault the post. I go for the 'crack' in the lion, but next season half the lads are giving up. Just me and Silverfox talking bollox and reassuring each other we've done the right thing in our old age.
 
Great post Caveblade but I'm not ready to throw the towel in on the blades. I'm an exile so perhaps it makes it easier, but I still see how bad we are when I see us.

I read 'fit and proper' and you're right it's been going on for years, so it's nothing new to us!

The problem now is that we've sunk lower than we have done in the past 20 odd years. We'd found our level at the mid to upper end of the Championship and we knew that we'd be in the mix for at least the play offs most years. But we were still selling players then, we still cashed in at the worst possible time.

Personally I used to think the transfer window would offer clubs like us protection from the big boys. But if anything it's hurting clubs more! Everyone waits for the last possible moment to snap up the players with potential, the rich kids offer big money to us and we take it... It's big money to us, nothing to them! It's the difference between balancing the books and administration so they say. But when it comes at the last minute and you've no replacement lined up you then rely on expensive loans, expensive untried youngsters or cheap untried. We tend to take the middle option!

I lost my love for international football a couple of years back, the players disgust me. They're playing for my country and they act like fucking pricks! Sorry, nothing but a full reshuffle will bring me back to loving England football. There is no passion, desire for England.

The premier league has ruined English football and the champions league is just a money spinner. I'm fine with rewarding the winners, but the money in the two is obscene and I personally think the product is not good to watch anymore.

I agree about the FA cup, I always loved it but crap TV coverage and as you say 530 kick off for the final is ruinin it for me.

English Football sold its soul completely - the new kit, made by American giants Nike. I have nothing against Nike as such, I wear their gear. But we didn't need England with a Nike kit. England needs to have a British kit maker. England for years have launched new kits on st George's day... Because we're English!

The light of football is fading, but the Blades still burn bright... Just intermittently!

Play the violin all you like but the cavemans of this world are what keeps clubs going.......... if the hardcore stop going then not just us but the game as a whole is in the shit.

Surely it's those that stop going that prevent the club moving forward. Financial FairPlay is linked to turnover and as gate receipts are part of this it now means the fewer people that go, the less we have to spend.
 
England needs to have a British kit maker. England for years have launched new kits on st George's day... Because we're English!

I presume you mean Umbro. American owned since October 2007, first by Nike and then by Iconix Brand Group.

If England want to truly emulate the Germans then they should have gone all the way and had an Adidas kit. They're far classier than Nike.
 
Great post Caveblade but I'm not ready to throw the towel in on the blades. I'm an exile so perhaps it makes it easier, but I still see how bad we are when I see us.

I read 'fit and proper' and you're right it's been going on for years, so it's nothing new to us!

The problem now is that we've sunk lower than we have done in the past 20 odd years. We'd found our level at the mid to upper end of the Championship and we knew that we'd be in the mix for at least the play offs most years. But we were still selling players then, we still cashed in at the worst possible time.

Personally I used to think the transfer window would offer clubs like us protection from the big boys. But if anything it's hurting clubs more! Everyone waits for the last possible moment to snap up the players with potential, the rich kids offer big money to us and we take it... It's big money to us, nothing to them! It's the difference between balancing the books and administration so they say. But when it comes at the last minute and you've no replacement lined up you then rely on expensive loans, expensive untried youngsters or cheap untried. We tend to take the middle option!

I lost my love for international football a couple of years back, the players disgust me. They're playing for my country and they act like fucking pricks! Sorry, nothing but a full reshuffle will bring me back to loving England football. There is no passion, desire for England.

The premier league has ruined English football and the champions league is just a money spinner. I'm fine with rewarding the winners, but the money in the two is obscene and I personally think the product is not good to watch anymore.

I agree about the FA cup, I always loved it but crap TV coverage and as you say 530 kick off for the final is ruinin it for me.

English Football sold its soul completely - the new kit, made by American giants Nike. I have nothing against Nike as such, I wear their gear. But we didn't need England with a Nike kit. England needs to have a British kit maker. England for years have launched new kits on st George's day... Because we're English!

The light of football is fading, but the Blades still burn bright... Just intermittently!



Surely it's those that stop going that prevent the club moving forward. Financial FairPlay is linked to turnover and as gate receipts are part of this it now means the fewer people that go, the less we have to spend.
The SCMP (?) defines the max you can spend and yes it is related to revenue and hence gates. The problem is that if an incompetent owner decides to divert funds to their own pocket or pay off debts their incompetence created in the first place then your contribution via the gate doesn't go to building a half decent team.
 



It first started in the mid seventies, kicking a ball was a lunchtime ritual in the playground and I clearly remember the anticipation of my first visit to Suggs to buy a United shirt. Jimmy Dormer's Dad took me on my first visit to the lane, a night match against Leeds, sitting in the upper tier of the BL stand, I still remember the lights, the first view of the expanse of green and the complete excitement. I was in love, not just with the Blades but with Football.

It has been an integral part of my life eversince, my colleagues all know I am a blade, I used to revel in being a full kit wanker playing 5 a side in Hull as I was proud of being a Blade in exile.

At work my calendar was proudly placed on the wall each Janaury 2nd and the Blades Badge moved each time I changed my car.

I have to apologise to my kids and my late wife for the times when football took precedent (life did change that attitude very harshly) and whilst not always a season ticket holder until the last few years, whenever I could, I would be at the Lane.

I loved the FA cup, (probably because I grew up in an era when you didn't have wall to wall tv football) and would sit there from 10 oclock in the morning watching FA CCup Final Question of sport, and all the other fantastic build up. Always with the dream that one day if Southampton and Coventry could do it, the Blades would get there.

I remember the epics, the promotions, the relegations, lots of semi finals and the ultimate, My mate getting his pants ripped off in the services on the way to Bristol for our 1st Play off disaster!

For the first time ever, I looked at the final home game this year, chucked the season cards in a drawer and said "I am going to do the garden"

The light has flickered and died for me, I look at Football and see the sport I loved as a tainted dirty thing.

The Premier League was started to "improve the England team", excuse my language but this is bollocks, it was a thinly veiled way of the big clubs diverting the vast majority of money in the game into their own greedy pockets.

The champions league further supports this process where frankly average teams pocket millions for coming 3rd and 4th in the Prem.

In the intervening 20 years it has completely tilted the playing field in favour of 4 or 5 clubs and destroyed the chance of a Clough, Robson, Revie or other talented manager building a team at an unfancied club and winning things.

Meanwhile the FA cup, the premier competition in the world has been reduced to a side show that kicks of at 5 bloody 30 after normal league games.

England will never progress due to the number of foreign players in our game and with them has come diving and cheating that is now an accepted part of the game that kids copy on school sports fields.

Latest acts of genius this season are increasing the parachute payments (lets reduce the odds even further of different teams getting promoted) and rules that allow premiership clubs to poach the starlets from lower league clubs without having to pay transfers!! (Lets just roll the smaller clubs over and shaft them)

Whilst all this has been happening on a national level United have bounced up and down in terms of league positions but one thing has remained absolutely constant? The absolute inept running of the club at board room level. I read Matthews book about the boardroom shannanigins (spelling?) and the most depressing thing was it is still going on and KM has been central to it for a long time. He was here when we sold Deane and Fjortoft and what happens again in January Miller Injured sell Blackman. Still in a position to get Automatic, sack the manager with no suitable replacement identified and appoint the guy who has struggled all season to get results from the reserves.

I have not renewed my season ticket, not as some kind of protest, but because I have fallen out of love with this game, because it is no longer a credible sport, it stinks with an odour that normally follows obscene amounts of money. My Daughter and mates are all convinced that I will crumble as the first game of the season approaches, but I think not I have realised that Shankly was talking crap and actually there are more important things in life.
 
I almost agree with every word - except Shankly wasn't talking crap - when he said it, for many of us, it was probably true but it isn't anymore.
 
Football has undergone a cataclysmic shift in the last 20-30 years, and it's a shift that on the face of it looks to have been nothing but generally positive, as many of the commentators on the game would have you believe, but dig a little deeper and you can perceive that this shift could well be fatal for the game as it's known. Almost all of the traditional football watching population has been forsaken and cast off in the pursuit of wonga under the excuse of safety and family-friendly. Gentrification to rid the game of all those blue-collar oiks and replace them with those in the population with some dosh.

They laud the Premier League and the increased gates, bigger all-seater stadiums, more TV money and greater and greater TV coverage. What's the downside to that? All seats has all but destroyed the atmosphere in grounds and driven away those who used to watch because seats mean bigger ticket prices. A game live on TV in my youth was a rarity, FA Cup Final, odd England game and maybe the European Cup Final if an English team was involved. Now it's wall-to-wall almost 7 days a week, diluted significance to the point of Meh! Meanwhile as a season ticket holder at Old Trafford throughout all of 2012 you saw a grand total of 2 games kicking off at 3pm Saturday! But to maximise revenue from Asia we need these flexible kick-off times.

Increased exposure = more TV money = bigger and bigger contracts for players = more expensive tickets = higher earners only buying tickets = an entertainment choice = a further reduction in the atmosphere = less of a spectical = TV audiences get bored = reduced viewing figures = TV reduce/cut the contract = the middle classes move on to the next trendy entertainment thing = less income for clubs = empty stadiums = even less atmosphere = TV pull out = most clubs fucked.

Champions League is just a bigger version of the PL. In my younger days to win this was a real achievement, as only the champions of a league could enter and it was two leg knockout from the start with no seeding. Now you can finish 5th to qualify, lose two or three games and still win the thing. It's a meaningless money pit.

International football has been well and truly knocked off it's pedestal by both of the above. To be capped was the ultimate honour, to play in a World Cup the ultimate achievement. Now, it's all just an inconvenient chore that gets in the way of the 'real' stuff.

FA Cup. The greatest club football tournament in the world, the highlight of the football year, now just an adjunct to the PL season slotted in near the end between the really important games. In many ways this seasons epitomised the sorry state of things. Greatest upset since Wimbledon beat Liverpool, yet the winners want to swap it for a 4th from bottom PL finish.

England in an American kit, Cardiff in red, Wimbledon in Milton Keynes and many clubs displaying shirt sponsors of dubious ethics, to be tactful, and seeing no shame in it as it was a good deal for the club.

Meanwhile, those that really love the game with a passion drift off to the cinema or pub with their partner on a Saturday afternoon because they have been betrayed and abandoned by that game.
 
I used to spend my holidays wasting time on good sun bathing Saturdays in Spain , leaving the beach to watch a live match or listen to radio 5 for crumbs of news about games. Now I stay on my tumbona applying factor 20 and only use the cheringuito bar stool for a small Mahou beer , as a distraction, and I used to waste Saturday nights staying up till 2 am watching motd and the fl show as its an hour in front, no more .My insatiable consumption of all things football has dwindled on a drip method every year for the past 20 , since football became premier obsessive. Its nothing to do with us being in league one ,well not totally , the whole game is now not that , a game,its always been professional so a bit of a business , but sadly in todays game its clear you finish now where your bank balance stands , rather than whos wearing the shirt. You can virtually predict teams positions on their financial clout, theres not one hint of a level playing field amongst clubs and its clinically removed the romance , the heart , the love we feel as supporters away from all but those lucky enough to afford multi million pound buys , they still "love" the game , but only because they can afford to sit at the top table. As soon as the cash cow that is the prem is taken away from some clubs the "fans" leave in their droves knowing how difficult it is to join the club again , its like being suspended from costa del sols top golf club as youve only got a cheap set of clubs.
The dissection of income has ripped our game asunder , creating a class system of haves and have nots thats slowly destroying the game, its no longer 92 clubs in a pyramid , its 10 clubs in a luxury penthouse who let out 10 more executive apartments , and then theres championship flats , league 1 bedsits and then in the basement the league 2 servants quarters.
I never imagined after following every game Tony Currie ever played in our shirt home and away my love for the game would be as tenuous as it is now, but its the spawn of the devil Richard Scudamore and the greedy bastards in the prem that have created this dilemma, paying themselves 95% of the pot, and like starving kids leaving us with just £3 a month to survive on .
 
I never imagined after following every game Tony Currie ever played in our shirt home and away my love for the game would be as tenuous as it is now

You saw a quality of football that younger folk may may never see. I first started going in the Deane/Agana era so I've known us compete, albeit not in style.

You have to wonder if younger Blades will ever see what we've seen unless we change football finance.
 
I presume you mean Umbro. American owned since October 2007, first by Nike and then by Iconix Brand Group.

If England want to truly emulate the Germans then they should have gone all the way and had an Adidas kit. They're far classier than Nike.

Really? The bastards
 
i hardly ever watch match ut day, cos i couldnt give a rats behind who wins between chelski and dubai city. i'd rather watch york city v barnet.

I think it would be Abu Dhabi United rather than Dubai City, seeing as the owner is from Abu Dhabi. Just a minor detail I know
 
sod it,

Im Buying a Wakefield Trinity Season Ticket next season, £120 , you cant go wrong.
 
Someone once said 'When a man is tired of Sheffield United, he is tired of life.' Or summat like that.

Of course the OP is talking sense, but where does it all stop? I (and I bet many others) preferred pubs in the old days, when you could letch the barmaid and have a fag. But we were wrong all that time. The future was allowing kids to run riot, drinking J2O and taking a mortgage out to buy a round. 'They' always win in the end.

We don't matter. As the corrupt bigwigs of FIFA convene in Mauritius (never Blackpool, is it?) do you think they're giving us a thought?

Football is fucked, politics is fucked, the economy is fucked, Britain is fucked.

Twas ever thus. For an excellent insight into how football is screwed, read this by the (often excellent) Martin Samuel interviewing Platini.
 
You saw a quality of football that younger folk may may never see. I first started going in the Deane/Agana era so I've known us compete, albeit not in style.

You have to wonder if younger Blades will ever see what we've seen unless we change football finance.

in those days you had a chance , catch your man utds and arsenals with a couple having off days you could beat them , now they have 5 on the bench better than anything you have, its totally skewed one way , we havent got worse , just never competed financially and these days it shows .
In fairness currie woodward reece and co had it easier as it was a more level playing field , meaning they could be more confident, , we are now like oliver twist coning from the top table originally but at the workhouse just now asking , nay begging for more.
 



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