The "gerritinbox" brigade.

[HillmortonBlade]

Sometimes on here it does have the feel of a very snooty wine tasting club, who sneer at people who like a nice pint of frothy beer now and again.
I love BDTBL when it's full, whether it be with the overly critical or the happy clapper, the part timer or the bloke who's had a season ticket for 40 years. Bramall lane is a broad church and I relish the different opinions sat round me.

This pint is crap, it's crap, I thought this pub was meant to have been getting better?! Gerrit down your throat, stop all this fannying about with appreciating the flavour, eh?
Back in the day we didn't mess about with flavour and a good froth, down in one, that's the way forrid.

 

[Pinchy]

When Coutts crossed the ball they had ten men in the box to our four. The fact that he hit it hard and low gave the defenders no time to react and caused the mistake. One went to head it, got in the way of the other bloke who then scuffed his clearance and it fell to Freeman. Nowt wrong with getting it into the box as long as its a quality delivery.

Precisely and that's all I ever say. People then assume I want the game played on a giant human chessboard. Far from it; that's for idiots like Charles Hughfit and Big Fat Useless Hoofy Bent Sam. Give me players who can do things I couldn't. We could all 'smack it in the box'.

 

[Pinchy]

If we did just aimlessly lump it into the box every time we had the ball outside their box yesterday, the 'gerritintbox'ers would probably have been left frustrated.

Case in point - The Shrewsbury game where we were 2-1 up with a couple of minutes to go against 9 men, yet the knucklescrapers were still getting on the players back for running the clock down.

Learning here - Do not give the crowd what they demand.

One or two of you are reaffirming my faith in fellow Blades at the moment. I appreciate not everyone is as purist as I am (supposed to be) but there seems to be a concensus forming in favour of proper football. I am gratified.

❤. ❤⚔.

 

[blade67]

When Coutts crossed the ball they had ten men in the box to our four. The fact that he hit it hard and low gave the defenders no time to react and caused the mistake. One went to head it, got in the way of the other bloke who then scuffed his clearance and it fell to Freeman. Nowt wrong with getting it into the box as long as its a quality delivery.

Well said. I also don't think anyone is suggesting that at times a direct approach is always bad. My point is that we have played this patient way all season (bar the first home game) and despite people stating on here that we can't break teams down this way we are top of the league .

 

[Pinchy]

Well said. I also don't think anyone is suggesting that at times a direct approach is always bad. My point is that we have played this patient way all season (bar the first home game) and despite people stating on here that we can't break teams down this way we are top of the league .

...and have consistently broken said teams down exactly that way! How many match or point winning late goals this season? Around 7 at a guess? All without compromising the Tuftyball and just "smacking it into the box". Why would you?

❤⚔.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

This pint is crap, it's crap, I thought this pub was meant to have been getting better?! Gerrit down your throat, stop all this fannying about with appreciating the flavour, eh?
Back in the day we didn't mess about with flavour and a good froth, down in one, that's the way forrid.

Aye

 

[Bergen Blade]

It was a wonderful goal we scored and it followed a period of urgent, quick football with lots of good movement and several players (even defenders bombing forward) making contributions. I've tried looking a little bit at what happened in the minute before we scored and noticed:

• Good forward, penetrative passing, coupled with runs off the ball, as Done runs in behind, is tackled, but wins a corner
• Corner is cleared, but we twice win it back in their half
• Not only do we win it back, but we attack straight away on both occasions. Going forward, with several players in the box. It means we get our goal at the second attempt.
• Although the opposition have men back (11 players in the box as Freeman scores), they are not as organised as we attack them twice in quick succession
• Their left back (Buchanan) has remained in a central position after the corner, meaning he is not there to cover the space that Coutts runs into, and it is he who misses his clearance which falls nicely to Freeman

I'm first and foremost grateful for us finally having a manager who is tactically up to date. There is a time for patience, but there are some scenarios where we absolutely should try to do things quickly, punishing the opposition while they're vulnerable.

 

[Sean Thornton]

If we did just aimlessly lump it into the box every time we had the ball outside their box yesterday, the 'gerritintbox'ers would probably have been left frustrated.

Case in point - The Shrewsbury game where we were 2-1 up with a couple of minutes to go against 9 men, yet the knucklescrapers were still getting on the players back for running the clock down.

Learning here - Do not give the crowd what they demand.

I'd guess Dannys "smack it in" comment related more to what Coutts did yesterday rather than the "aimless" claim Thats coming through now.

For a forum that's supposedley more cerebral than BladesMad, and Len apart on there , it's a particular thing on here to misrepresent a post and then run with it for posters own delectation.

It's odd that posters need to do this.

 

[super_pig]

Coutts ,duffy and Fleck all gave the ball away cheaply on occasions yesterday ,we are in division 3 and this will happen but they are by far the best 3 midfielders , individually and as a unit in the division ,personally I reckon they could play as a 3 in the league above. All teams at every level will struggle to break down a 10 man defence on the 18 yard line ,purely because it means there are 15-20 players battling for space in a small area ,we tried every different method ,shooting ,passing running with the ball and finally getting a cross in from the byline until we broke through. If Clarke had converted the easy early chance we would have won comfortably ,but well done the midfield and wing backs for showing patience and ingenuity unlike some fans.

clarke was fouled

 

[sitwell]

clarke was fouled

Not from where I was sat ,right in line with the cross ,he missed he ball completely with his right foot and the ball went between his legs ,there was no appeal from anyone.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

It was a wonderful goal we scored and it followed a period of urgent, quick football with lots of good movement and several players (even defenders bombing forward) making contributions. I've tried looking a little bit at what happened in the minute before we scored and noticed:

• Good forward, penetrative passing, coupled with runs off the ball, as Done runs in behind, is tackled, but wins a corner
• Corner is cleared, but we twice win it back in their half
• Not only do we win it back, but we attack straight away on both occasions. Going forward, with several players in the box. It means we get our goal at the second attempt.
• Although the opposition have men back (11 players in the box as Freeman scores), they are not as organised as we attack them twice in quick succession
• Their left back (Buchanan) has remained in a central position after the corner, meaning he is not there to cover the space that Coutts runs into, and it is he who misses his clearance which falls nicely to Freeman

I'm first and foremost grateful for us finally having a manager who is tactically up to date. There is a time for patience, but there are some scenarios where we absolutely should try to do things quickly, punishing the opposition while they're vulnerable.

I don't think I'd fully appreciated till watching that back just how good Coutts's work was to win the ball back – excellent effort, and a part of his game that had been completely absent till this season. Really pleasing to see.

We did start the 2nd half with a bit more of a mindset to move the ball quicker, but seemed to lurch back relatively soon after. We were also in that 2nd half far too predictable – everything seemed focused on our lefthand side, and the goal itself felt like one of the only occasions we'd attacked down the right. Odd, given that the goal and Freeman's cross for the Clarke miss first half were probably the best opportunities we created.

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

I'd guess Dannys "smack it in" comment related more to what Coutts did yesterday rather than the "aimless" claim Thats coming through now.

For a forum that's supposedley more cerebral than BladesMad, and Len apart on there , it's a particular thing on here to misrepresent a post and then run with it for posters own delectation.

It's odd that posters need to do this.

I wasn't aiming my post at anyone in particular on here, more of a pop at the (unfortunately) audible fans sat around me who for the last 20/30 minutes of the game where screaming to lump it into the area every time we had possession in the final 3rd of the pitch. Desperate tactics that early wasn't needed to win the game and fortunately, with another home win recorded, we didn't succumb to them.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I wasn't aiming my post at anyone in particular on here, more of a pop at the (unfortunately) audible fans sat around me who for the last 20/30 minutes of the game where screaming to lump it into the area every time we had possession in the final 3rd of the pitch. Desperate tactics that early wasn't needed to win the game and fortunately, with another home win recorded, we didn't succumb to them.

I wasn't replying to your post just a general point because I didn't feel Danny was suggesting simply lump it into the box from anywhere. There are "gerritforrads" all over the ground at every game. Always been the same. It's not the way Wilder is playing save the high ball to the back post when Clarke starts and I'd expect quite a few are frustrated at that.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I don't think I'd fully appreciated till watching that back just how good Coutts's work was to win the ball back – excellent effort, and a part of his game that had been completely absent till this season. Really pleasing to see.

We did start the 2nd half with a bit more of a mindset to move the ball quicker, but seemed to lurch back relatively soon after. We were also in that 2nd half far too predictable – everything seemed focused on our lefthand side, and the goal itself felt like one of the only occasions we'd attacked down the right. Odd, given that the goal and Freeman's cross for the Clarke miss first half were probably the best opportunities we created.

Said the same about going down the left during the game. Only last ten minutes or so did Freeman/Coutts start to push forward together.

 

[B14Nco]

It's mental how people want us to all of a sudden start doing things differently to what's bringing us relative success.

This is how we play now. Trust the game plan. It's not doing us too badly.

 

[Pinchy]

I wasn't replying to your post just a general point because I didn't feel Danny was suggesting simply lump it into the box from anywhere. There are "gerritforrads" all over the ground at every game. Always been the same. It's not the way Wilder is playing save the high ball to the back post when Clarke starts and I'd expect quite a few are frustrated at that.

You might be right (Im not sure you are actually, he seemed to firm up on the point, but never mind that) Apologies to Danny if I was one of those misinterpreting him; A plague on him if I wasn't...

There are, however, a significant minority amongst our support who think we should do exactly that: "lump it into the box from anywhere". They made themselves heard against Northampton. They are numpties. A complete embarrassment and an impediment to what Tufty is trying to do. More of us should shout them down rather than suffering their drivel in silence. This thread is a welcome confirmation that I am not alone in my views.

 

[Cockney Blade]

Precisely and that's all I ever say. People then assume I want the game played on a giant human chessboard. Far from it; that's for idiots like Charles Hughfit and Big Fat Useless Hoofy Bent Sam. Give me players who can do things I couldn't. We could all 'smack it in the box'.

Hi yes whilst I agree with your sentiment can we make it clear there is a big difference between urging the team to just smack it and the reality of us just not crossing or shooting when the opportunity arises. This is a fact and happens too often. Most of us only mean get it in the box when there are players in there. This couldn't be further away from hit and hope. The game is not either long ball or pure football. The Blades are continually improving and this is merely one of the things we have to improve upon. Coutts and Fleck are sometimes afraid to have a pop and freeman and lafferty often shun the chance of a first time cross. This leads to us turning the ball over without either shooting or crossing even though the chance was there. Wilder knows this and we will improve. It is however a fact that we do what I have described above. We are top of the league though and Iam fully behind every player and loving it!

 

[Cockney Blade]

Hi yes whilst I agree with your sentiment can we make it clear there is a big difference between urging the team to just smack it and the reality of us just not crossing or shooting when the opportunity arises. This is a fact and happens too often. Most of us only mean get it in the box when there are players in there. This couldn't be further away from hit and hope. The game is not either long ball or pure football. The Blades are continually improving and this is merely one of the things we have to improve upon. Coutts and Fleck are sometimes afraid to have a pop and freeman and lafferty often shun the chance of a first time cross. This leads to us turning the ball over without either shooting or crossing even though the chance was there. Wilder knows this and we will improve. It is however a fact that we do what I have described above. We are top of the league though and Iam fully behind every player and loving it!

By the way I get paid every time I use the word fact and that's a fact!

 

[Bladesman]

Hi yes whilst I agree with your sentiment can we make it clear there is a big difference between urging the team to just smack it and the reality of us just not crossing or shooting when the opportunity arises. This is a fact and happens too often. Most of us only mean get it in the box when there are players in there. This couldn't be further away from hit and hope. The game is not either long ball or pure football. The Blades are continually improving and this is merely one of the things we have to improve upon. Coutts and Fleck are sometimes afraid to have a pop and freeman and lafferty often shun the chance of a first time cross. This leads to us turning the ball over without either shooting or crossing even though the chance was there. Wilder knows this and we will improve. It is however a fact that we do what I have described above. We are top of the league though and Iam fully behind every player and loving it!

Ultimately it the was decision making that was frustrating me.

Gaps did open up in the Northampton team especially on the counter attack and the ball could have been played through but we were too slow in reacting. There was space opening up just in front of their penalty box and ideal for a shot but instead we slow the tempo down and allow even more Northampton players to get back.

 

[Pinchy]

Hi yes whilst I agree with your sentiment can we make it clear there is a big difference between urging the team to just smack it and the reality of us just not crossing or shooting when the opportunity arises. This is a fact and happens too often. Most of us only mean get it in the box when there are players in there. This couldn't be further away from hit and hope. The game is not either long ball or pure football. The Blades are continually improving and this is merely one of the things we have to improve upon. Coutts and Fleck are sometimes afraid to have a pop and freeman and lafferty often shun the chance of a first time cross. This leads to us turning the ball over without either shooting or crossing even though the chance was there. Wilder knows this and we will improve. It is however a fact that we do what I have described above. We are top of the league though and Iam fully behind every player and loving it!

I understand but as Foxy said above, some of our numpties urge players to shoot (and maybe cross as well) when they are at completely the wrong angle, often stationary with ball at feet and thus unable to generate power, and fronted up by three large athletic determined opponents. You can't just shoot or cross at will (unless you want to lose the ball, wasting your time as well as possession). You have to be in a dynamic position and have some sort of pathway to shoot or cross effectively. Maybe our players, and many of the current crop have football brains, thank Pele, have a better idea and visual perspective of whether they can cross or shoot effectively than those of us in the stands?

Football philosophy is, I'm afraid, relevant to the discussion. Hoofers (I don't include you; you seem sensible) are much less likely to appreciate the subtleties.

 

[Pinchy]

By the way I get paid every time I use the word fact and that's a fact!

Only if you use CAPITAL LETTERS and an exclamation mark!

 

[Cockney Blade]

Ultimately it the was decision making that was frustrating me.

Gaps did open up in the Northampton team especially on the counter attack and the ball could have been played through but we were too slow in reacting. There was space opening up just in front of their penalty box and ideal for a shot but instead we slow the tempo down and allow even more Northampton players to get back.

Absolutely spot on fellow blade

 

[DronnieBlade]

Polite message to the lorrayous.

Fuck off. Just fuck off. Do not pass go. Do not collect a prawn sandwich.

Your collective ignorance on all things football is, staggering. And I'll bet you believe different !!!

UTB

P.S Lest we forget, it's this same insipid, gutless, toothless, ineffective, cowardly display of tippy-tap wankery on show tonight that has got us to the top of the league if you hadn't noticed. Minor speed bump. If, after the monumental success we have had this season, Tufty resorts to hoofing it to Hanson, we can wave autos bye bye. And I'll be fucking fuming.

 

[Houso]

I agree with your general sentiment. The shouts of "gerritforward" last night were irritating in the extreme.

Indeed, I think it influenced Moore's decision to send J o'C away when he wanted the ball prior to the second goal. It came pretty much straight back down the pitch and eventually in the back of the net.

BUT, we can still play an intelligent, possession based game and utilise Hanson as a plan b. We had fuck all strength and height last night in the box and as a result couldn't find a way through. Our conversion rate from corners is dogshit and we need someone in there to mix it up.

We looked more effective with EEL up there in the last 5 minutes ffs, and he had a 50p head and 20p feet last night. Would have been lovely to have someone who knows how to play the position. IMO, we'd have got a draw with Hanson on the pitch last night.