The Elephant in My Room

[bongleblade]

I say 'my room' because, as far as I'm aware, I'm the only person who's thought about this. I'm sure it's crossed the minds of others, though.

There is a rather large club in this country which is currently massively underperforming. A club that needs every single player to want to lay their lives on the line for the badge as Wilder makes our lads do. A club which is, in relative terms, in complete disarray in this moment in time.

That club is Manchester United, and the perfect man to take them back to what they wish to be again is Our Chris.

I sincerely hope that their big-wigs are thick enough to continue down the path of employing 'big names', and that they never give our gaffer a second glance. But I can't shake the feeling that he would be a perfect fit for them. It'd also be a very difficult job to turn down, Blade or not.

Just imagine for a moment how he could sort that lot out; kicking out the dickheads regardless of their wages and giving the talent a chance. I'd love to be wrong, but I can see it happening.

We already know he has the managerial nous to take a side forward. Surely it'd be naive of us to ignore the eyes of other clubs? Particularly those who desperately need a bloke like him?

We also know that Wilder likes a long-term project. Could owt be more long-term than Man U in their current state?

Funny post, this. I'm looking for people to say they've had the same idea but I'm also crying out for people to say I'm being stupid and say that Wilder is here to stay. I suppose it kinda poses the awkward question of 'Are there any bigger clubs than mine?'...Is there a bigger job out there for him regardless of his affiliation with us?
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My thoughts too...

SAF still has power in the decisions at old trafford... sounds like they spoke at LMA awards, to the point of Wilder actually taking on advice to sign Ravel from SAF... They clearly have a relationship, I have a sneaky suspicion that SAF will be viewing Chris as a future manager.

But let me take you back way before the LMA awards too...

42 things about Chris Wilder...

Oxford United’s manager today celebrates his 42nd birthday, so we put that number of questions to the man masterminding the U’s super season . .…

www.oxfordmail.co.uk

8. Which coach or manager did you must respect/admire when you were a player?
CW: Alex Ferguson.
9. Which coach or manager do you most respect/admire now?
CW: Alex Ferguson.

Chris really does seem to look up to SAF... now does he see himself as a modern day SAF for man u? I guess if he respects/admires SAF, maybe he wants to emulate him.

But, the good news is - I don't think Man U will go for him. I'll point to another article now, £627m profits made this year.

Manchester United annual revenues hit record high of £627m

Despite the strong results, the football club says it still values its success on the field most highly.

www.bbc.co.uk

Under the Glazers the club is a corporate cash cow, for the first time ex-players/pundits are now publicly speaking out against the Glazers reign, there has been little investment with this money (comparative to profits).

It is not in the corporate interest of Man Utd, Ed Woodward and the like for them to hire a manager who will speak honestly and could (will) shake the foundations of the club by sacking high profile players off and rocking the boat. They will hire Pochettino, and then they will hire the next big name manager, and the next, and the next etc.. etc... and keep milking the cash cow... the audience is there now, they can live off the glory years for a good while yet

 

[Stanthemanfan]

I say 'my room' because, as far as I'm aware, I'm the only person who's thought about this. I'm sure it's crossed the minds of others, though.

There is a rather large club in this country which is currently massively underperforming. A club that needs every single player to want to lay their lives on the line for the badge as Wilder makes our lads do. A club which is, in relative terms, in complete disarray in this moment in time.

That club is Manchester United, and the perfect man to take them back to what they wish to be again is Our Chris.

I sincerely hope that their big-wigs are thick enough to continue down the path of employing 'big names', and that they never give our gaffer a second glance. But I can't shake the feeling that he would be a perfect fit for them. It'd also be a very difficult job to turn down, Blade or not.

Just imagine for a moment how he could sort that lot out; kicking out the dickheads regardless of their wages and giving the talent a chance. I'd love to be wrong, but I can see it happening.

We already know he has the managerial nous to take a side forward. Surely it'd be naive of us to ignore the eyes of other clubs? Particularly those who desperately need a bloke like him?

We also know that Wilder likes a long-term project. Could owt be more long-term than Man U in their current state?

Funny post, this. I'm looking for people to say they've had the same idea but I'm also crying out for people to say I'm being stupid and say that Wilder is here to stay. I suppose it kinda poses the awkward question of 'Are there any bigger clubs than mine?'...Is there a bigger job out there for him regardless of his affiliation with us?
?

I must admit I've thought the same but it won't happen, I'm more worried if a villa/Everton/Southampton/Newcastle came promising him a free reign and a decent budget but he won't leave us unless either he falls out with the board or he feels he's took us as far as he can, utd wouldn't sack him after all he's done for us
Or would they?

 

[Pedro's Winger]

Wilder's doing an excellent job.
Wilder's also managed in the Prem for a total of 7 games.
Somewhere like Newcastle might be a possible but none of the big 6.
Then again, lose at Watford and our start with a poor home record starts to look a lot less rosy.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I think the only way Chris leaves is if The Prince doesn’t back him financially. Back him and he will stay. If say Spurs came in for him, let’s be honest would you begrudge him that kind of move?

Too right I would, I've suffered 48 years, although he's a fan he's only just started as a manager here, he's got a way to go yet.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

To paraphrase Jim Phipps ‘ think Brian Clough’ like Clough, Wilder builds teams that play for him and fit into his style of play. If Clough had been tempted away from forest by Man U would they give him the time to dismantle the team and build it his way? Not a chance. My only (slight) worry is that AK is tempted away by a championship team.

Don't worry, he's not a No 1 and he knows it.

Can't tell you why, it breaks a confidence but he's going no where.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Jurgen Klopp left Bramall Lane with a bottle of bubbly from Sheffield United manager Chris Wilder, but he did not sound like a man about to launch into celebration.

True, this was one of those satisfying victories which enhanced Liverpool's credentials as potential title-winners, hewn from hard toil on a day when they were not very fluent and enjoyed a slice of good fortune.

These are very early days, however. Liverpool passed similar tests of character last season, and were forced to settle for second.

That has left its mark. So Klopp is not about to be carried away by seven wins out of seven and a five-point cushion. Or 16 wins in row in the Premier League stretching back to March, the last time his team dropped points, in a goalless derby at Goodison Park.

'I'm not interested in the number,' Klopp said. 'It's just a number. You can only create a streak like that if you're always in the next job. The next job is Salzburg in a different competition and then Leicester City, and that will be difficult.'

If they are to break the record of 18 consecutive Premier League wins, set by City in 2017-18 they must beat Leicester, Manchester United and Tottenham. 'It doesn't sound too likely,' Klopp smiled.

So he thanked Wilder for the champagne — a mark of recognition for winning the FIFA Coach of the Year — and the managers shared a beer and talked football.

'He's a right down-to-earth guy,' Wilder said. 'It's great sitting in a room with him. He's open and that's quite refreshing, because I don't get the feeling that managers in the Premier League want to do that. That's been a bit disappointing because I think it's important people chat because we're all after the same thing. We're all after a win.'

They are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to budget and expectations, but these are managers with a common bond, committed to harnessing the energy of their passionate fans by producing a daring brand of attacking football.

Neither is particularly comfortable toasting his achievements with a flute of fizz. 'I'm not a connoisseur,' confessed Wilder.

Klopp offered praise to Sheffield United, comparing them to Mainz, the club with whom he won promotion in Germany, and noting the combined force of their players, supporters and manager.

'A proper unit,' he called the Blades. 'A proper wall,' he called their fans. As for Wilder's presence on the touchline, he said: 'I thought I was loud, but he's really loud.'

It was a day of mutual admiration. Also a day when Liverpool needed their centre halves to be on top of their game. Joel Matip and Virgil Van Dijk were quick and aware, strong in the air, the best players on the pitch.

The illustrious front three misfired. It might have been different had Sadio Mane converted one of two clear chances in the first half and tempted Sheffield United to take more risks. Wilder's over-lapping centre halves remained tethered. And the result would have seemed more emphatic had Mohamed Salah not been foiled by Dean Henderson when clean through near the end.

As it was, the sides were only separated by the goalkeeping howler by Henderson, who let a volley through his legs from Georginio Wijnaldum. 'We have to win every game,' said Van Dijk. 'It doesn't matter how the goal has gone in.'

The champagne can stay on ice until spring. This is the season of graft and ale. And that suits Klopp. Link

When will people realise that there are certain individuals out there - like CW & JK - who are perfectly happy where their work has taken them? Leave the money-grubbing (and inevitable failure) to the likes of Bruce & The Cowleys. If CW moved from Sheffield (where his wife and family are very settled) to another PL club and it didn't work out, he'd be slaughtered and he knows it. Decidedly-average managers like Lampard get all the plaudits for achieving fuck all. He knows that too.

Top post.

How about a graph to show how close Klopp is from Wilder.

 

[CornwallBlade]

I think the only way Chris leaves is if The Prince doesn’t back him financially. Back him and he will stay. If say Spurs came in for him, let’s be honest would you begrudge him that kind of move?

Agree with that. We should look at the Jan window as a big test. I think everyone agrees that we need a prem quality striker. I’m not dissing what we have but we’ve missed too many chances that should have been taken. If anyone is any doubt why proven goal scorers cost the money they do just look at our games to-date - we could/should be 6 points better off. If, and I don’t think we will, get relegated, CW will stay with us if he thinks investment is going to be made. No moneh in Jan and a drop to the Championship and, sadly, it could well be bye bye

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I say 'my room' because, as far as I'm aware, I'm the only person who's thought about this. I'm sure it's crossed the minds of others, though.

There is a rather large club in this country which is currently massively underperforming. A club that needs every single player to want to lay their lives on the line for the badge as Wilder makes our lads do. A club which is, in relative terms, in complete disarray in this moment in time.

That club is Manchester United, and the perfect man to take them back to what they wish to be again is Our Chris.

I sincerely hope that their big-wigs are thick enough to continue down the path of employing 'big names', and that they never give our gaffer a second glance. But I can't shake the feeling that he would be a perfect fit for them. It'd also be a very difficult job to turn down, Blade or not.

Just imagine for a moment how he could sort that lot out; kicking out the dickheads regardless of their wages and giving the talent a chance. I'd love to be wrong, but I can see it happening.

We already know he has the managerial nous to take a side forward. Surely it'd be naive of us to ignore the eyes of other clubs? Particularly those who desperately need a bloke like him?

We also know that Wilder likes a long-term project. Could owt be more long-term than Man U in their current state?

Funny post, this. I'm looking for people to say they've had the same idea but I'm also crying out for people to say I'm being stupid and say that Wilder is here to stay. I suppose it kinda poses the awkward question of 'Are there any bigger clubs than mine?'...Is there a bigger job out there for him regardless of his affiliation with us?
?

Wilder will either move on to a bigger club, retire, walk out or be fired. But not for a few years yet we hope.

If we look after him well he’ll be here for a long time. But everyone moves on eventually.

 

[JayGreen17]

Only 1 club that I could see him being tempted at leaving us for and that’s Everton, big Club, set up to compete without having the ego mentality, the owners and supporters would give him a chance the fans would defo take to him, having said that I see no reason why we cannot be on a similar level to Everton if he’s backed so he may not fancy them