The 3 top Blades players.

[Keef Chedwyn]

I suppose thats why clubs are after Jebbison to have no effect on their teams.Berge will be a better player with other players better than Fleck and Norwood around him.

Berge will be this, Berge is going to be that. If this was that then Berge would be better.
All bollocks. He's done fuck all because he's band average and he's a pussy.
And Jebbison has done fuck all in adult football apart from a tap in two years ago.

 

[adiosmiamigo]

Berge will be this, Berge is going to be that. If this was that then Berge would be better.
All bollocks. He's done fuck all because he's band average and he's a pussy.
And Jebbison has done fuck all in adult football apart from a tap in two years ago.

The club's interested in him don't think it's bollocks,imho.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Be reyt, all we need to do is qualify for Europe and they'll be queuing up for new contracts.

 

[Teddy]

It’s only terrible if they asked to stay and we said no

If none of them want to stay beyond the initial contract and won’t agree to a new deal then nothing the club can do

Hmmm that’s a tad simplistic. Contract negotiation is an art and very complex… it’s not just “fancy sticking around a couple more years Illy?” - “Nah”.

It’s someone’s job to navigate these issues and try and get the best outcome for the club.

To take a crude example a salesman can’t sell nothing then go back to his boss and say “no one fancied buying”… it was his job to convince someone.

Edit: having said that, it’s perfectly possible that all avenues were explored and deals just couldn’t be done. We don’t see behind the scenes.

 

[Frank the tank]

Hysterical fanny thread rating 8/10
Not quite full hystetical fanny yet but edging closer

 

[bongleblade]

None will sign new contracts

Losing all on frees is utterly unacceptable

Therefore we should do all we can to get good fees for Jebbison and Berge now

And you can throw in anybody else of financial value who won't sign and sell them as well

It may be negative, but I feel it would be very helpful if we approached our market activity as if we're going down this season no matter what

Agree completely. If they’re not assets beyond this season we need to sell in order to get players who will be long term assets.

If we know the 3 mentioned won’t sign contracts - then we should consider them like loan players,

this season would we take 3x good loan players or £50m?

 

[Brownieblade]

Hmmm that’s a tad simplistic. Contract negotiation is an art and very complex… it’s not just “fancy sticking around a couple more years Illy?” - “Nah”.

It’s someone’s job to navigate these issues and try and get the best outcome for the club.

To take a crude example a salesman can’t sell nothing then go back to his boss and say “no one fancied buying”… it was his job to convince someone.

Edit: having said that, it’s perfectly possible that all avenues were explored and deals just couldn’t be done. We don’t see behind the scenes.

And that’s my point, it might be we didn’t try hard, it might be we offered illy the best contract he has ever been offered and he had zero interest

 

[steve26272]

If we lose any of Berge,Jebbison and Ndiaye,it'll be disgraceful club management.

Not necessarily

We offer them a contract and it’s upto them whether they would like to accept it, but it’s an open market and they are right to take time to assess what’s right for them, in the same way we did to Billy
He would have loved to have stayed, as would Stevens but the club made a (correct) decision that were best served without them

So if the 3 in question categorically refuse to sign them we should sell them immediately to the highest bidder and reinvest every penny into the first team

Illy would be a big loss, but if we got £25m we could try to replace him
Berge less so although I do like him, but if his sale was offset by buying Doyle, OBrien and loaning mcatee I’d take that
Jebbo could become the next DCL, or Jordan Slew - all 3 were raw and I’d say Slew had shown more - scoring 3 in 11 over Jebbo at 2 from 28

Remember what we see is the tip of the iceberg, loads happening under the water line

Disgraceful is Galtier in France, us selling an asset who doesn’t want to be a part of our future is business

 

[Maidenhead]

If we lose any of Berge,Jebbison and Ndiaye,it'll be disgraceful club management.

Jebbison top 3?

I get your drift though.

 

[Maidenhead]

None will sign new contracts

Losing all on frees is utterly unacceptable

Therefore we should do all we can to get good fees for Jebbison and Berge now

And you can throw in anybody else of financial value who won't sign and sell them as well

It may be negative, but I feel it would be very helpful if we approached our market activity as if we're going down this season no matter what

If that's how you set you're expectations, then that's what you will get.

Any fees we get now will be a drop in the ocean compared to the overall situation and selling players will almost ensure that we will go down.

Maybe we could have sold them for more last January and avoided all this promotion bollocks in the first place?

If the players are happy to stay then we should embrace that.

Their contribution to our survival could be worth a lot more than a few quid in the bank.

And that's coming from someone that doesn't gamble and believes in financial prudence.

 

[Maidenhead]

Top 3? I'll go for
1. Ndiaye
2. Baldock
3. Egan
These guys give you the most consistent good performances.
What? Everybody was talking about something else, screw it I was the only one who answered the question.

I saw the thread title and was all ready to say Woodward, Currie and Deane.

Then I read the OP

 

[Maidenhead]

Agree completely. If they’re not assets beyond this season we need to sell in order to get players who will be long term assets.

If we know the 3 mentioned won’t sign contracts - then we should consider them like loan players,

this season would we take 3x good loan players or £50m?

If you can get anywhere near £50m for those three Bettis will give you a job and a huge bonus.

 

[adiosmiamigo]

Not necessarily

We offer them a contract and it’s upto them whether they would like to accept it, but it’s an open market and they are right to take time to assess what’s right for them, in the same way we did to Billy
He would have loved to have stayed, as would Stevens but the club made a (correct) decision that were best served without them

So if the 3 in question categorically refuse to sign them we should sell them immediately to the highest bidder and reinvest every penny into the first team

Illy would be a big loss, but if we got £25m we could try to replace him
Berge less so although I do like him, but if his sale was offset by buying Doyle, OBrien and loaning mcatee I’d take that
Jebbo could become the next DCL, or Jordan Slew - all 3 were raw and I’d say Slew had shown more - scoring 3 in 11 over Jebbo at 2 from 28

Remember what we see is the tip of the iceberg, loads happening under the water line

Disgraceful is Galtier in France, us selling an asset who doesn’t want to be a part of our future is business

25m,really?

 

[steve26272]

25m,really?

MGW went for £42m after 1 decent championship season
Gordon £45m to sit ont bench

I’m not saying we’d get that, but if we can get spurs, Everton etc bidding why not?

MGW, Gordon or Illy - who would you have??

 

[adiosmiamigo]

MGW went for £42m after 1 decent championship season
Gordon £45m to sit ont bench

I’m not saying we’d get that, but if we can get spurs, Everton etc bidding why not?

MGW, Gordon or Illy - who would you have??

Do they have to bid?Why would they? Use the pre contract agreement and wait.

 

[steve26272]

Do they have to bid?Why would they? Use the pre contract agreement and wait.

Are you suggesting that no one should buy a player in their last year as the can wait 12 months?

Anel’s Malmo contract was due to expire today, we spent £4m to bring him in, should we have waited?

Mount £55m, Maddison £40m, Rice £105m - all these players contracts expire same day as illy’s - not putting him in their bracket, but the predicament is the same - all have refused new contracts, all sold to the highest bidder


Wait is an option of course, but in direct answer to your question -
Because they need that type of player now - Everton just do, spurs to replace Moura? Palace to replace Zaha? And if they wait he could sign a pre contract abroad before he can for them, and as a freebie in 12 months there may be more interest in him

That’s the transfer market

 

[adiosmiamigo]

Are you suggesting that no one should buy a player in their last year as the can wait 12 months?

Anel’s Malmo contract was due to expire today, we spent £4m to bring him in, should we have waited?

Mount £55m, Maddison £40m, Rice £105m - all these players contracts expire same day as illy’s - not putting him in their bracket, but the predicament is the same - all have refused new contracts, all sold to the highest bidder


Wait is an option of course, but in direct answer to your question -
Because they need that type of player now - Everton just do, spurs to replace Moura? Palace to replace Zaha? And if they wait he could sign a pre contract abroad before he can for them, and as a freebie in 12 months there may be more interest in him

That’s the transfer market

Mount,Madison and Rice are all younger than Illy and Jebbison and are the finished article hence 55m,40m and 105m,ours have the potential,maybe.

 

[Bladedog]

The club's interested in him don't think it's bollocks,imho.

Load o bollocks.. just paper talk stirred up by agents and alike.

 

[adiosmiamigo]

Are you suggesting that no one should buy a player in their last year as the can wait 12 months?

Anel’s Malmo contract was due to expire today, we spent £4m to bring him in, should we have waited?

Mount £55m, Maddison £40m, Rice £105m - all these players contracts expire same day as illy’s - not putting him in their bracket, but the predicament is the same - all have refused new contracts, all sold to the highest bidder


Wait is an option of course, but in direct answer to your question -
Because they need that type of player now - Everton just do, spurs to replace Moura? Palace to replace Zaha? And if they wait he could sign a pre contract abroad before he can for them, and as a freebie in 12 months there may be more interest in him

That’s the transfer market

Not suggesting that at all,but if you're talking millions which I'm not,why would even a top club fork out a few million when they don't have to.Big clubs won't be in a position where they HAVE to play youngsters like Jebb andilly.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

If that's how you set you're expectations, then that's what you will get.

Any fees we get now will be a drop in the ocean compared to the overall situation and selling players will almost ensure that we will go down.

Maybe we could have sold them for more last January and avoided all this promotion bollocks in the first place?

If the players are happy to stay then we should embrace that.

Their contribution to our survival could be worth a lot more than a few quid in the bank.

And that's coming from someone that doesn't gamble and believes in financial prudence.

It's not exactly about setting expectations, it's more of an operating guide that would help simplify the approach. It's also realistic

It comes down to whether we want to have a decent team after this season or not

If we approach our activity as if we're going down....... that doesn't mean we will go down

"Selling players will almost ensure we go down" would only apply to Ndiaye. Nobody else. And I'm not advocating selling him. Because I wouldn't actually give up on survival

There's no reason whatsoever to think anybody else could not be replaced. And those replacements would be here beyond this season - maybe to get us back up, maybe to try and keep us up again

 

[adiosmiamigo]

Load o bollocks.. just paper talk stirred up by agents and alike.

We shall see.

 

[adiosmiamigo]

It's not exactly about setting expectations, it's more of an operating guide that would help simplify the approach. It's also realistic

It comes down to whether we want to have a decent team after this season or not

If we approach our activity as if we're going down....... that doesn't mean we will go down

"Selling players will almost ensure we go down" would only apply to Ndiaye. Nobody else. And I'm not advocating selling him. Because I wouldn't actually give up on survival

There's no reason whatsoever to think anybody else could not be replaced. And those replacements would be here beyond this season - maybe to get us back up, maybe to try and keep us up again

Does that not depend on how much cash is incoming and how much will be spent on replacing sold players?

 

[adiosmiamigo]

Are you suggesting that no one should buy a player in their last year as the can wait 12 months?

Anel’s Malmo contract was due to expire today, we spent £4m to bring him in, should we have waited?

Mount £55m, Maddison £40m, Rice £105m - all these players contracts expire same day as illy’s - not putting him in their bracket, but the predicament is the same - all have refused new contracts, all sold to the highest bidder


Wait is an option of course, but in direct answer to your question -
Because they need that type of player now - Everton just do, spurs to replace Moura? Palace to replace Zaha? And if they wait he could sign a pre contract abroad before he can for them, and as a freebie in 12 months there may be more interest in him

That’s the transfer market

Jebbison wont replace Moura or Zaha,he's not in that class yet.Its up to the buying club to persuade any player to sign a pre-contract for them before any other club,thats the transfer market.

 

[adiosmiamigo]

It's not exactly about setting expectations, it's more of an operating guide that would help simplify the approach. It's also realistic

It comes down to whether we want to have a decent team after this season or not

If we approach our activity as if we're going down....... that doesn't mean we will go down

"Selling players will almost ensure we go down" would only apply to Ndiaye. Nobody else. And I'm not advocating selling him. Because I wouldn't actually give up on survival

There's no reason whatsoever to think anybody else could not be replaced. And those replacements would be here beyond this season - maybe to get us back up, maybe to try and keep us up again

And those replacements would cost how much,bearing in mind the current financial situation pre take over?

 

[robbiez666]

The only reason clubs wouldn't wait for Ndiaye is if they had plenty of money to spend and thought they'd lose out if he had a straight choice. He can sign for a European team in January. This is the last chance to get anything for him.

 

[steve26272]

Jebbison wont replace Moura or Zaha,he's not in that class yet.Its up to the buying club to persuade any player to sign a pre-contract for them before any other club,thats the transfer market.

Illy

Jebbo is totally unproven, those interested are trying to find the next Bellingham

 

[ATL Recs]

I suppose thats why clubs are after Jebbison to have no effect on their teams.Berge will be a better player with other players better than Fleck and Norwood around him.

No the are after Jebbison because he’s a free with possible potential- a punt

 

[adiosmiamigo]

No the are after Jebbison because he’s a free with possible potential- a punt

Possibly a free with potential definitely,clubs will do what Everton did with Dominic,bring him on gradually,Our need is more urgent than that,we need someone now,you dont hang about in the division we're in.

 

[adiosmiamigo]

Jebbison top 3?

I get your drift though.

By top 3 i mean the players that other clubs may offer serious cash for,Anel maybe,top 4 then?

 

[wavy-blade]

MGW went for £42m after 1 decent championship season
Gordon £45m to sit ont bench

I’m not saying we’d get that, but if we can get spurs, Everton etc bidding why not?

MGW, Gordon or Illy - who would you have??

Yer Gordon was a terrible buy , what were they thinking , not sure who's been worst buy , Brewster or Gordon .

This Season "fucking honking" Brewster must show what he's made of , getting fed up of the junior big style gangster me sen !