TEAM v Spurs

[Jon P]

Anyone know why we are training at the lane?

 

[Houston_Blade]

Anyone know why we are training at the lane?

To churn the pitch up, we’re going agricultural on Sunday.

 

[Argentinemanager]

Id keep the same side as against newcastle , but would put basham man marking kane as he drops deep to start most of spurs attacking play. And normally no one follows him into a no mans land. But what does a former engineer know about tactics so ill leave it all up to KWAK

 

[silver blade]

After that brill performance/result on Tuesday against Newcastle I would stick with the same starting 11 and go for it against Spurs. Can Utd make it two wins on the trot before we have the two trip to Manchester

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Daily Mail predicts that Billy will start

 

[Lupa The Noa]

After that brill performance/result on Tuesday against Newcastle I would stick with the same starting 11 and go for it against Spurs. Can Utd make it two wins on the trot before we have the two trip to Manchester

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As long as he doesn't use McBurnie at any point. I've nothing against him personally but he just breaks down and wrecks any fluidity we ever show.

 

[Bladesince59]

Agree. Unless there is a sudden improvement in attitude, Moose is looking destined to join the long list of professional sportsman who will look back on their career in 15-20 years time and reflect on what could have been. Lots of natural ability but a shockingly poor dedication to their sport and employer.

The very least you expect from a highly paid premier league footballer is to look after themselves and keep at a decent level of fitness, commensurate with their status and pay. He’s been here 18 months and has shown no inclination whatsoever to do that. In fact, it’s quite the opposite, as demonstrated by his late night antics a few days ago.

As far as I’m concerned, the jig is up. He’ll have 12 months left on his contract at the end of this season and is cut him loose and get whatever fee we can for him.

Could't agree more. He's been a total Baxteresque wanker.

 

[Speedracer]

Agree. Unless there is a sudden improvement in attitude, Moose is looking destined to join the long list of professional sportsman who will look back on their career in 15-20 years time and reflect on what could have been. Lots of natural ability but a shockingly poor dedication to their sport and employer.

The very least you expect from a highly paid premier league footballer is to look after themselves and keep at a decent level of fitness, commensurate with their status and pay. He’s been here 18 months and has shown no inclination whatsoever to do that. In fact, it’s quite the opposite, as demonstrated by his late night antics a few days ago.

As far as I’m concerned, the jig is up. He’ll have 12 months left on his contract at the end of this season and is cut him loose and get whatever fee we can for him.

Madness, utter madness. Moose more than paid off his transfer fee with his goals last season, & most acknowledge he is our most dangerous forward when he is "on it". Sure there has been disappointments & his personal issues have been well documented, but rather than chuck your dummy out & "get what we can for him" surely it would be better to work hard on sorting those issues, firstly to benefit from more effort on the pitch, & secondly, because if we do want to cut him loose (I certainly don't), a fit & firing Moose commands a big fee.
Personally I wonder if he isn't being handled correctly, you simply cannot treat all players the same, you have to be clever with player psychology & work out what works best for the individual, not give everyone the same level of tough love & expect them all to toe the line. Whatever, I could be wrong, but while he is here we should be doing everything in our power to get the best Moose on the pitch, not just say "nah bin him" if you get frustrated.

 

[Wright1889]

NC on the door.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Billy is past it I am afraid.

So are you judging by your username
He scored the winner and created the penalty by putting their CB under physical pressure

 

[CentralQuay]

So are you judging by your username
He scored the winner and created the penalty by putting their CB under physical pressure

If he gets credit for the win against Newcastle, how much criticism are you going to give him for the side being bottom and with 5 points after 18 games?

 

[vas borbokis]

IMO Billy gets no criticism for the current plight as he's barely played any minutes this season.

 

[CentralQuay]

IMO Billy gets no criticism for the current plight as he's barely played any minutes this season.

So if he's considered not good enough to get regular minutes in a side that can't score, how is he not 'finished'?

Mousset gets stick, but he had more PL goals last season than Sharp has in his whole career.
Sharp has never been good enough for this level.

 

[bakeblade]

Anyone know why we are training at the lane?

I assume the training ground is snowed off

 

[vas borbokis]

So if he's considered not good enough to get regular minutes in a side that can't score, how is he not 'finished'?

Mousset gets stick, but he had more PL goals last season than Sharp has in his whole career.
Sharp has never been good enough for this level.

Whereas the Moose has never been fit enough for this level...
If Moose had Billy's work ethic and commitment he'd be the answer. Sadly he doesn't and therefore isn't.
Neither is Billy at his age, but he does still have a role to play, as demonstrated v Barcodes.

 

[Bladesince59]

If he gets credit for the win against Newcastle, how much criticism are you going to give him for the side being bottom and with 5 points after 18 games?

He's too slow: very often off-side and lucky not to get a red. Agreed he scored a penalty.

 

[CentralQuay]

He's too slow: very often off-side and lucky not to get a red. Agreed he scored a penalty.

I agree.
You will not find a fan out there, outside this club, which believes he has ever been capable of playing at this level.

That doesn't detract from what he has done at this club, but if fans want to be a Premier League club then it can't keep its Championship mentality.

 

[Pedro Verde]

If he gets credit for the win against Newcastle, how much criticism are you going to give him for the side being bottom and with 5 points after 18 games?

Im not giving him all the credit for the win against Newcastle, it was a team performance
Hes hardly played so its not his fault we are on 5 points after 18 games

 

[Pedro Verde]

Agreed he scored a penalty.

He created the penalty

 

[Withington Blade]

Madness, utter madness. Moose more than paid off his transfer fee with his goals last season, & most acknowledge he is our most dangerous forward when he is "on it". Sure there has been disappointments & his personal issues have been well documented, but rather than chuck your dummy out & "get what we can for him" surely it would be better to work hard on sorting those issues, firstly to benefit from more effort on the pitch, & secondly, because if we do want to cut him loose (I certainly don't), a fit & firing Moose commands a big fee.
Personally I wonder if he isn't being handled correctly, you simply cannot treat all players the same, you have to be clever with player psychology & work out what works best for the individual, not give everyone the same level of tough love & expect them all to toe the line. Whatever, I could be wrong, but while he is here we should be doing everything in our power to get the best Moose on the pitch, not just say "nah bin him" if you get frustrated.

The guy has talent, that is not in question, it’s his attitude and commitment that seem to be the problem. It would be naive to think the club and manager don’t know how to handle different personalities, if that is what you are suggesting. They supported him during his personal issues last year and he repaid that by reporting back to preseason overweight and then missing most of the season with various injuries before writing his car off after a lockdown night out with one of his pals.

He’s been here 18 months and he’s never completed 90 minutes because he’s not fit enough. If chucking my dummy out is not wanting to tolerate someone taking the piss, then so be it. I’m guessing Eddie Howe must have thrown his dummy out when he got sick of waiting for him to show the required professionalism to play for Bournemouth.

You say he’s our most dangerous forward when he’s ‘on it’, well can you remind me when the last time he was ‘on it’ was please because I have forgotten? Man City away, about 13 months ago was the last decent game I can remember, until he was subbed, obviously.

We’ll have to agree. My definition of madness would be expecting him to change. We might get the odd goal and performance from him, but I think we should expect more.