Stadium Development

[Sean Thornton]

I’m in the South Stand so I’m perfectly happy. But I moved from the kop & wouldn’t sit on it again as it currently is because it is a squalid experience.

Bit harsh on the regulars…….

 

[Nick Jansky]

Bit harsh on the regulars…….

It’s up to them if they’re happy with it. But it’s not for me.

 

[Shakespeare blade]

Of course it's right.

Sheffield United are a business not a charity.
The new owners are cold business men....only willing to give us money because they think we'll be able to give them more money back.
Their thought will be in fans wants more comfort then how much extra can we charge them and will they pay it?

I've said it before I'd prefer a single billionaire owner because then at least their ownership might be ego drive,
more emotional where they lend us money because they love the club or love the attention the club is giving them.

Regards the stadium often thought we should follow the US and German model by offering more choice of pricing.
If the Kop is the worse part of the stadium that should be £20, where as th very best seats on the South stand should be £50 or £60.
For people with limited finances £20 is alot of money, so at least this gives them the chance togo.
For people with money £60 is loose change, so they'd pay it on South stand especially if they have access to their own bar/ refreshment area.
There are plenty of imaginative ways to make something more attractive at a higher price for people with money.

Or an ego drive like s6

 

[Upton_Blade]

i dont think we need another tier on south stand its the kop that needs redeveloping with a 15k capacity that would take us to 37/38k thats enough

Been done loads on this thread already. Any capital expenditure will have the ROI timeframe factored in. It's probably the main consideration in what gets the green light which is why the south stand would be done 1st. The extra corporate facilities would mean it's ROI is far quicker than the kop.

 

[Westran]

It's interesting that Stadium Development is one of the most discussed topics just as the takeover is about to happen. Shows it's high on fans agenda. There's been noises saying they plan to invest in all areas and I guess we'll soon learn the extent, I hope they go all out if I'm honest but I'd expect modest investment regarding the posts being removed and some facilities improvements.

 

[ancientblade]

Wouldn't pillows be a bit rubbish at holding up the roof?

haha well spotted rochdale

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

I’m in the South Stand so I’m perfectly happy. But I moved from the kop & wouldn’t sit on it again as it currently is because it is a squalid experience.

No one SHOULD sit on the kop.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

I thought we had planing permission to do this?

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Of course it's right.

Sheffield United are a business not a charity.
The new owners are cold business men....only willing to give us money because they think we'll be able to give them more money back.
Their thought will be in fans wants more comfort then how much extra can we charge them and will they pay it?

I've said it before I'd prefer a single billionaire owner because then at least their ownership might be ego drive,
more emotional where they lend us money because they love the club or love the attention the club is giving them.

Regards the stadium often thought we should follow the US and German model by offering more choice of pricing.
If the Kop is the worse part of the stadium that should be £20, where as th very best seats on the South stand should be £50 or £60.
For people with limited finances £20 is alot of money, so at least this gives them the chance togo.
For people with money £60 is loose change, so they'd pay it on South stand especially if they have access to their own bar/ refreshment area.
There are plenty of imaginative ways to make something more attractive at a higher price for people with money.

Yes, with consortiums it’s all about the bottom line, and that’s as itshould be for the good of its investors. This model of ownership usually brings level decision making with the odd calculated risk. But as we know the game we all love (and hate sometimes) is a very emotive and knee jerk type of business, the perfect vanity project

 

[S64 Blade]

why are people so obsessed with spending money on expanding a stadium we are not actually selling out in current form ? Why are we talking about spending money on ground developments /new kop etc When surely we need to spend any spare money on the actual team to get us in to a position where people would come and fill the stadium IF we sustained premier league status but last thing we need is more empty seats isint it ? Seems straightforward to me which way round we need to do things

Because we will always need to spend money on the team, no matter what. Therefore, the ground would otherwise end up outdated like Hillsborough.

 

[I should coco]

I’m in the South Stand so I’m perfectly happy. But I moved from the kop & wouldn’t sit on it again as it currently is because it is a squalid experience.

It’s up to them if they’re happy with it. But it’s not for me.

None taken.

You foppish dilettante nouveau tosspot.

 

[Nick Jansky]

None taken.

You foppish dilettante nouveau tosspot.

Nouveau?

 

[JJ Sefton]

i dont think we need another tier

 

[Nick Jansky]

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I’d vote for anyone who could do that with their eyes.

 

[Razor_Blade]

I thought we had planing permission to do this?

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I hope we don't do that, it needs a rethink. That plan just adds rows to the back of the kop and a new roof.

We should be looking to take the whole thing down and replace with a modern stand with proper facility's and a concourse behind it .

 

[Razor_Blade]

Thanks lot of "ifs" and "coulds" in that article, will see what happens. Just removing the pillars won't make it a decent kop though.

Agreed the rake it's on and the facilities are shocking.

 

[SRA76]

Because we will always need to spend money on the team, no matter what. Therefore, the ground would otherwise end up outdated like Hillsborough.

spending a few quid on improvements to the facilities etc is one thing I get that. But spending money on extra seating when we can’t fill stadium as it is another. We simply need to sustain top flight football before we can do it. The 26k home fans for first game of season surely shows we don’t need extra seats yet ?

 

[S64 Blade]

spending a few quid on improvements to the facilities etc is one thing I get that. But spending money on extra seating when we can’t fill stadium as it is another. We simply need to sustain top flight football before we can do it. The 26k home fans for first game of season surely shows we don’t need extra seats yet ?

Thats one game… The 30k for a full season, says otherwise. The 28k the year before in the second tier.

If you don’t expand, you can’t grow.

We were averaging sub 20,000 the last time we expanded the stadium.

They’ll always be a reason not to do any work on the ground - spend it on getting promoted/staying up/sustaining top flight status/pushing on for a European spot. It’ll be even harder to expand it the better we are doing as we will be without x amount of seats for a period of time.

 

[ancientblade]

spending a few quid on improvements to the facilities etc is one thing I get that. But spending money on extra seating when we can’t fill stadium as it is another. We simply need to sustain top flight football before we can do it. The 26k home fans for first game of season surely shows we don’t need extra seats yet ?

and how many potd does that 26k include probably 4k max maybe fans on holiday was to blame for that low turnout but our pricing especially prices on the kop doesnt help

 

[haich1889]

Build the ground and the fans will come (Chelsea, Reading, Southampton, Leicester, etc)

Our attendances rose after building the New John Street (13000 in an average 2nd tier season - 25000+).

There is a massive student foreign/indigenous market to tap into. Has anyone seen the amount of foreign students travelling on the train to Man U on Wednesday nights? Train is full.

Depends how much ambition the new owners have, build now & move forward. We have the room to expand, Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Southampton, Palace etc are hamstrung with a lack of fanbase and/or room to develop the Stadium.

Dooo it!!!

 

[JayGreen17]

We’d still fill three sides with an extension in capacity, as we’ll give the whole of the Bramall Lane end to the away fans like we used to do, and as we grow as a club we may start to use the upper tier as we do now, with the Bramall Lane end to away supporters when we play the likes of the top prem, the ground would be full, 40k fans, without expanding we are not going to grow as a club and income would be stuck to how it is now, any business needs to grow and of the new owners are, 1 serious, 2, in it for the long term, 3. Have the capital then they have to commit to growing the club.

 

[TopBoy]

Surely the time to redevelop the stadium is when crowds are at their lowest. That way, you upset the fewest punters.

 

[Tarqs]

Surely the time to redevelop the stadium is when crowds are at their lowest. That way, you upset the fewest punters.

So you're saying we should be developing when we have the least income and poorest on field performances...

How does that work

 

[The Fox]

Maybe a bonkers idea but if people have visited the mailbox in Birmingham you can imagine a similar development on the BL ( cherry st) site . Its probably not dissimilar in size but hosts a hotel , shops , bars restaurants etc and commercial space including the bbc .
Something akin to this as part of the stadium improvement may be possible or just a pipedream .
The site at Dore similarly could be based on a mini St George's park. If anyone's been it's 2 hotels , conference facilities, and lots more than the football pitches and gyms . ( maybe opportunities with the universities or IOS)
Again may be pie in the sky but just needs vision and commercial development partners.

It's a long way from pillars on the kop I know .

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

I think talk of a new stadium is quite fanciful. American consortiums are usually only concerned with ROI.

Definitely don't want us to move to the Republic of Ireland.

 

[TopBoy]

So you're saying we should be developing when we have the least income and poorest on field performances...

How does that work

After spending 3 out of the last 5 years in the richest league in the world and with parachute payments, some would argue we currently have the most positive bank balance and the highest income in our history.

 

[Need4speed]

It is possible to grow the support base, fifteen years ago United offered great deal for families and kids going with an adult, I think my son's first season ticket was £75 and in subsequent years there were great discounts. He was 21 before he paid full price. With extra capacity it would be possible to do this and thus ensuring more supporters in the future.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

As with all religions, they are always proud of their places of worship….Bramall lane is ours, and we want to see it reach its full potential.

 

[alcoblade]

Of course it's right.

Sheffield United are a business not a charity.
The new owners are cold business men....only willing to give us money because they think we'll be able to give them more money back.
Their thought will be in fans wants more comfort then how much extra can we charge them and will they pay it?

I've said it before I'd prefer a single billionaire owner because then at least their ownership might be ego drive,
more emotional where they lend us money because they love the club or love the attention the club is giving them.

Regards the stadium often thought we should follow the US and German model by offering more choice of pricing.
If the Kop is the worse part of the stadium that should be £20, where as th very best seats on the South stand should be £50 or £60.
For people with limited finances £20 is alot of money, so at least this gives them the chance togo.
For people with money £60 is loose change, so they'd pay it on South stand especially if they have access to their own bar/ refreshment area.
There are plenty of imaginative ways to make something more attractive at a higher price for people with money.

There will be more Blades paying on the day tonight in a tin pot cup away at Barnsley that there were for our opening home league fixture. Just a sign of how many are being priced out of football.

 

[alcoblade]

No one SHOULD sit on the kop.

Probably a whoosh moment, but why not?

 

[JohnDenver]

Kev says it’d be done by now if it wasn’t for those pesky kids.