Stadium Development

[FATTYFOULKE]

At least we are good at something this season , must be a sympathy vote that.

I think a 5-0 win is always going to give the opposition a favourable impression of Bramall Lane….

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

It’s probably more the fact that most of the away supporters this season left Bramall Lane on a high after thumping us 5-0 or 8-0 and that influenced their thoughts

Sorry didn’t see your post

 

[Brynner]

Below are extracts from my post about that Rotherham game (November 1960). Hope they bring back a few memories.
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Thanks for that Hodgy. Memory playing tricks on me , thought it was '59 not' 60 , so I was 7 . Of course Keith Kettleborough a Rotherham player back then. Another favourite of mine later on at the Lane. Can't remember the goals, but Rocket Ron Simpson certainly had a cannonball of a shot on him, comparable to Woody. Seem to remember Cliff Mason playing left back quite a few times back then. Loved how Doc Pace never came back to defend corners, always seemed to stay up on the halfway line, if memory serves me right. Thanks once again.

 

[metalblade]

Thanks for that Hodgy. Memory playing tricks on me , thought it was '59 not' 60 , so I was 7 . Of course Keith Kettleborough a Rotherham player back then. Another favourite of mine later on at the Lane. Can't remember the goals, but Rocket Ron Simpson certainly had a cannonball of a shot on him, comparable to Woody. Seem to remember Cliff Mason playing left back quite a few times back then. Loved how Doc Pace never came back to defend corners, always seemed to stay up on the halfway line, if memory serves me right. Thanks once again.

Why do we pull every player back to defend corner kicks? Makes no sense to me 1, if we leave a player on the halfway line the other team have to leave two defenders back to watch him. 2, It gives us an out ball rather than just booting it anywhere and can stop the ball coming straight back into our penalty area.

 

[stringjunior]

Kin hell who’s doing the catering at the other grounds for the food to be worse than ours? Jeffrey Dahmer?

The Crab

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

The Crab

No reflux refunds.

 

[The Crab]

The Crab

My patented “ish” range is going down nicely, then coming back up again. Some of the greatest businessmen that ever lived had teething troubles when launching a new product.

My range includes meat-ish, chicken-ish, pork-ish, and fish-ish. And to appeal to the yoghurt knitters, sorry I mean valued customers, veg-ish.

I don’t like the phrase market leader, but I do lead the market……

 

[Sean Thornton]

My patented “ish” range is going down nicely, then coming back up again. Some of the greatest businessmen that ever lived had teething troubles when launching a new product.

My range includes meat-ish, chicken-ish, pork-ish, and fish-ish. And to appeal to the yoghurt knitters, sorry I mean valued customers, veg-ish.

I don’t like the phrase market leader, but I do lead the market……

Most of your market usually wears a lead…..

 

[Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head]

If we ever get wealthy owners that want to redevelop the south stand, we should use the tunnel in the England game as inspiration for our own.

I'm thinking a solid steel tunnel with two huge steel cutlasses at the end

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Unfortunately in the SUFC world there will always be more reasons not to redevelop the ground.

 

[JJBlade]

Why do we pull every player back to defend corner kicks? Makes no sense to me 1, if we leave a player on the halfway line the other team have to leave two defenders back to watch him. 2, It gives us an out ball rather than just booting it anywhere and can stop the ball coming straight back into our penalty area.

Because everything about Sheffield United is fucking thick

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Because everything about Sheffield United is fucking thick

No, it just needs to make financial sense, which extending the stadium instead of rebuilding the side or building the training facilities doesn't.

 

[Kizmet]

Because everything about Sheffield United is fucking thick

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[stringjunior]

Because everything about Sheffield United is fucking thick

I think it's time you stopped drinking and went to bed.

 

[Snowflake]

Because everything about Sheffield United is fucking thick

..including the fans ?

 

[The Fox]

Notwithstanding the priorities but I'd love to see a 2 tier kop with safe standing in the lower section.
Unfortunately we've nowhere to relocate everyone during construction unless we extend the south stand behind the existing and can do that safely during a season. We might be able then to move kop tickets to the extended south and BLUT .. bit of a conundrum .

 

[JJBlade]

No, it just needs to make financial sense, which extending the stadium instead of rebuilding the side or building the training facilities doesn't.

Thanks for your input, but I was answering a post about why we pull eleven men back for a corner, only to boot it clear and be under pressure again immediately

 

[LJBlade]

Because everything about Sheffield United is fucking thick

Including yourself I assume?

 

[Pedro Verde]

I was answering a post about why we pull eleven men back for a corner, only to boot it clear and be under pressure again immediately

From 4 months ago are you really that far behind
In other news weve been relegated, theres a general election coming up and there is no takeover

 

[247Blade]

Notwithstanding the priorities but I'd love to see a 2 tier kop with safe standing in the lower section.
Unfortunately we've nowhere to relocate everyone during construction unless we extend the south stand behind the existing and can do that safely during a season. We might be able then to move kop tickets to the extended south and BLUT .. bit of a conundrum .

Fuck the stadium just get a decent team in it!

 

[The Fox]

Fuck the stadium just get a decent team in it!

Yes mate , I'd kinda covered that in the 1st 3 words .

Still need a stadium development plan though, otherwise you end up like the rust bucket at S6 .

 

[s20Blade]

I'd presume any potential new owners would want to do some work to attract some big touring gigs given our ideal city centre location.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

I'd presume any potential new owners would want to do some work to attract some big touring gigs given our ideal city centre location.

Only if they were absolutely insanely wealthy. Would be hundreds of millions and would only return over decades!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Yes mate , I'd kinda covered that in the 1st 3 words .

Still need a stadium development plan though, otherwise you end up like the rust bucket at S6 .

Y1-2 Promotion back to the PL
Y2-5. Yo-yo while training and academy infrastructure is built and embedded.
Y4-10 Consolidation in midtable/lower half, planning future stadium state.
Y10+ building future state, probably starting with South stand or Bramall Lane.

Easy this strategy lark.

 

[The Fox]

Y1-2 Promotion back to the PL
Y2-5. Yo-yo while training and academy infrastructure is built and embedded.
Y4-10 Consolidation in midtable/lower half, planning future stadium state.
Y10+ building future state, probably starting with South stand or Bramall Lane.

Easy this strategy lark.

Nice one , as you say it's easy

Problem is you pretty much have to do all to some degree at the same time .
Investment in the 1st team if you get it right gives the most immediate return definitely.
Investment in the academy is a 5 to 10 year return
Investment in the ground / infrastructure is a 20 year return

Just to clarify though .
Think the academy is staying at shirecliffe , needs some money spending on upkeep but not rebuilding . The Dore site is ( as I understand) 1st team training only . Needs building though.
Most clubs spending on the ground have to borrow , it's a 20 year return and as long as you can service it through increased revenue over that time it's not an issue .

If we waited 10 years before ground Investment we'd have fallen a long way behind by then and the costs will be a lot more significant.
Lots of decisions to be made and its complicated stuff , happy to leave it to people far cleverer than me .

 

[s20Blade]

Only if they were absolutely insanely wealthy. Would be hundreds of millions and would only return over decades!

Wouldn't need too much mainly room for the trucks probably, stadium of light holds 44k? And it's had over 60k in the past for ed sheeran and Beyonce so I reckon we could do 50k without extending any of the stands.

 

[S64 Blade]

Only if they were absolutely insanely wealthy. Would be hundreds of millions and would only return over decades!

Hundreds of millions is a bit extreme. Unless we are talking about rebuilding the whole ground.

It’ll cost even more the longer we leave it, as more work will need doing.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Wouldn't need too much mainly room for the trucks probably, stadium of light holds 44k? And it's had over 60k in the past for ed sheeran and Beyonce so I reckon we could do 50k without extending any of the stands.

Hundreds of millions is a bit extreme. Unless we are talking about rebuilding the whole ground.

It’ll cost even more the longer we leave it, as more work will need doing.

That new venue in Manchester which is 22k capacity cost hundreds of millions. Turning the lane into a genuine multi use arena would cost similar. Would probably need a roof for noise reasons if we wanted it to be a regular venue.

Or we could keep it as is and like with Def Leppard/kell brook type events every now and then

 

[Le Cynique]

That new venue in Manchester which is 22k capacity cost hundreds of millions. Turning the lane into a genuine multi use arena would cost similar. Would probably need a roof for noise reasons if we wanted it to be a regular venue.

Or we could keep it as is and like with Def Leppard/kell brook type events every now and then

Neither Old Trafford nor Trent Bridge cricket grounds have rooves and regularly hold concerts

 

[LBA_Blade]

That new venue in Manchester which is 22k capacity cost hundreds of millions. Turning the lane into a genuine multi use arena would cost similar. Would probably need a roof for noise reasons if we wanted it to be a regular venue.

Or we could keep it as is and like with Def Leppard/kell brook type events every now and then

Since we now own the ground as a club, it would be interesting to know how much revenue the club actually make from hosting an event. According to The Liverpool Echo, by hosting 3 Taylor Swift concerts Anfield with circa 55,000 a night is due to make Liverpool FC between £5-10million. When you put in perspective the cost of tickets and number of people, it isn't a great return for the venue. I am unsure however from what I can work out Liverpool FC do operate their own catering although I don't know if this was used as part of the gigs. The downside with us and outsourcing catering is the loss of potential increase in revenue. A "gig premium" could easily be applied to the cost of drinks and snacks etc which would push up the margin a bit.