St Luke's Fundraiser - Boycott PPV

[LudlamBlade]

After starting the #FifteensObscene campaign and seeing Newcastle fans do great work raising money for a foodbank, I've set up a JustGiving for St Luke's Hospice if any of our fans would like to help out.

If even 100 people donate £14.95 it makes £1495 which would make a big difference to St Luke's at the moment.

Donate to St Luke's Hospice to protest PPV Football

Help Ciaron Elm raise money to support St Luke's - Sheffield's Hospice

www.justgiving.com

 

[Blade56]

First Only £1,485 to go

Donated, come on Blades if you can support LB‘s fantastic effort

 

[Bath Blade]

Donated. Great idea and great cause.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Done.

 

[The Vicar]

£1500, we need to be raising £15000 at least!

Done

MTLBWY

 

[Blade56]

Can someone twatter the just giving page to SUFC? I’m Twitter illiterate

 

[Billyblade]

Great idea. Count me in (when I get paid ). Anything to support St Lukes. A great charity. That's where I take all my clothes that have shrunk

 

[Wapping Blade]

Done

 

[diode_blade]

Done, fantastic Idea.

 

[Snowflake]

Great idea, so let’s hope you get the support from this forum and beyond.
Just need 10% of the usual home support to donate and St Luke’s will have a hefty sum.

 

[Blade56]

£315 int first few hours

 

[JohnDenver]

After starting the #FifteensObscene campaign and seeing Newcastle fans do great work raising money for a foodbank, I've set up a JustGiving for St Luke's Hospice if any of our fans would like to help out.

If even 100 people donate £14.95 it makes £1495 which would make a big difference to St Luke's at the moment.

Donate to St Luke's Hospice to protest PPV Football

Help Ciaron Elm raise money to support St Luke's - Sheffield's Hospice

www.justgiving.com

Done. Happy to hand over the £15 I refused to give to the TV companies last Sunday.

 

[Steelcitysenior]

Done, good idea, really worthy cause. Listened on the radio, we just need that spark. UTB

 

[Wards]

Done

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

It's a dilemma isn't it? Many well intentioned people campaigning for Charity & chucking hard earned cash in. Take a step back - feeding kids with Pot Noodles & Spam as & when others feel generous. Take a step back - giving people with Cancer any sort of life on the whim of Social Media & Football Forum campaigns. Is that what we want? Is that what's down for us?

Make no mistake. Charity is a very regressive way of paying for basic human needs like food & care towards the end of life. Charity donations fall heavily on those who can least afford to pay them. Those whose hearts are in the right place, but who are often struggling themselves. While Corporations & those with enough squirrelled away wealth to sort it all out get away without paying. It's a dilemma. Those well intentioned people are in danger of normalising kids going hungry & needing tins rattling. Charity - it should be to send kids who are very ill to Disneyland & to save Donkeys who have had a hard time of it. But, Charity to feed the kid who lives down the street. No. That's not a good way of living. Relying on well intentioned people for life.

Ferraris in the carpark in The Lane
Foodbanks across the way

Ferraris & Foodbanks - that's the dilemma

Too many Florence Nightingales
Not enough Robin Hoods

 

[Blade56]

It's a dilemma isn't it? Many well intentioned people campaigning for Charity & chucking hard earned cash in. Take a step back - feeding kids with Pot Noodles & Spam as & when others feel generous. Take a step back - giving people with Cancer any sort of life on the whim of Social Media & Football Forum campaigns. Is that what we want? Is that what's down for us?

Make no mistake. Charity is a very regressive way of paying for basic human needs like food & care towards the end of life. Charity donations fall heavily on those who can least afford to pay them. Those whose hearts are in the right place, but who are often struggling themselves. While Corporations & those with enough squirrelled away wealth to sort it all out get away without paying. It's a dilemma. Those well intentioned people are in danger of normalising kids going hungry & needing tins rattling. Charity - it should be to send kids who are very ill to Disneyland & to save Donkeys who have had a hard time of it. But, Charity to feed the kid who lives down the street. No. That's not a good way of living. Relying on well intentioned people for life.

Ferraris in the carpark in The Lane
Foodbanks across the way

Ferraris & Foodbanks - that's the dilemma

Too many Florence Nightingales
Not enough Robin Hoods

Dont get your point tbh

 

[Davalon]

Dont get your point tbh

I think he'll only be truly happy when United are in the NE Counties league and there's him and a couple of hundred others watching them.

 

[stpauliblade]

Too many Florence Nightingales
Not enough Robin Hoods

Possibly Paul Heaton's greatest lyrics

 

[DaleHillBlade]

Done, thank you LudlamBlade

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I think he'll only be truly happy when United are in the NE Counties league and there's him and a couple of hundred others watching them.

I'll put my support of Utd up against anybody, on any basis. Loyalty Points. Years. Games attended. Money chucked in. Distance travelled. Number of arrests. Four man assaults on Home Ends. Pints supped. Fewest boos. Times on the team coach. Longest running blog. Biggest smiles. Most laughs. Lacoste shirt collection. Oldest Adidas Gazelles. Any basis. Metric me.....

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Dont get your point tbh

Charity, well intentioned though it may be, allows those with power (Government) to opt out of providing essential services (end of life care) and allows the wealthy to continue shovelling millions into off shore accounts.

Edit: The "wealthy" include Sheffield United players.

 

[BushBlade]

Charity, well intentioned though it may be, allows those with power (Government) to opt out of providing essential services (end of life care) and allows the wealthy to continue shovelling millions into off shore accounts.

And maybe they’d do it anyway, even if there wasn’t charity, because they don’t give a fuck.

 

[JohnDenver]

It's a dilemma isn't it?

You have points I’m sympathetic towards but it’s no dilemma for me for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, there’s a place for the charitable sector in even the most equitable countries.

And secondly, I’ve always voted and agitated in ways that I hoped would take us towards a more Scandinavian style of society and governance. But I’m not a revolutionary, and I’m not going to refuse to give when giving is the immediate option.

So I’m ok to keep the long term desires and the immediate needs somewhat separate.

And maybe I’m selfish. Many of us will finish our days at St Luke’s.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

You have points I’m sympathetic towards but it’s no dilemma for me for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, there’s a place for the charitable sector in even the most equitable countries.

And secondly, I’ve always voted and agitated in ways that I hoped would take us towards a more Scandinavian style of society and governance. But I’m not a revolutionary, and I’m not going to refuse to give when giving is the immediate option.

So I’m ok to keep the long term desires and the immediate needs somewhat separate.

And maybe I’m selfish. Many of us will finish our days at St Luke’s.

Great post. Fully respect your position. (And everyone else's of course). Taxing the rich, so that kids can eat - is somehow seen as "revolutionary". That's part of the language now I suppose. I'm genuinely interested in your views on people who prefer to donate money to those working & campaigning to address & overcome the root causes of poverty. I know it can be seen as pissing in the wind & virtue signalling.

 

[Snowflake]

It's a dilemma isn't it? Many well intentioned people campaigning for Charity & chucking hard earned cash in. Take a step back - feeding kids with Pot Noodles & Spam as & when others feel generous. Take a step back - giving people with Cancer any sort of life on the whim of Social Media & Football Forum campaigns. Is that what we want? Is that what's down for us?

Make no mistake. Charity is a very regressive way of paying for basic human needs like food & care towards the end of life. Charity donations fall heavily on those who can least afford to pay them. Those whose hearts are in the right place, but who are often struggling themselves. While Corporations & those with enough squirrelled away wealth to sort it all out get away without paying. It's a dilemma. Those well intentioned people are in danger of normalising kids going hungry & needing tins rattling. Charity - it should be to send kids who are very ill to Disneyland & to save Donkeys who have had a hard time of it. But, Charity to feed the kid who lives down the street. No. That's not a good way of living. Relying on well intentioned people for life.

Ferraris in the carpark in The Lane
Foodbanks across the way

Ferraris & Foodbanks - that's the dilemma

Too many Florence Nightingales
Not enough Robin Hoods

No it’s not a dilemma.
Giving to charities may assuage ones own guilt, but it provides the wherewithal to help those who are in need of help. Whether that is to finance food banks or give careers some respite when loved ones are at the end of their lives and in need of 24 hour care.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

No it’s not a dilemma.
Giving to charities may assuage ones own guilt, but it provides the wherewithal to help those who are in need of help. Whether that is to finance food banks or give careers some respite when loved ones are at the end of their lives and in need of 24 hour care.

My parents came from a generation (& location) where they had to rely on charity for healthcare & the like. I discussed it with them often. And it sounded awful. "We" made great steps forward to make sure we had greater security across society. And of course, with the recent Furlough Scheme correctly placing many more people on benefits & welfare we continue to have (some) of that underpinning now. But, my basic concern remains - people having to rely on charity, for food, in 2020, seems a backward step to me

 

[JohnDenver]

Great post. Fully respect your position. (And everyone else's of course). Taxing the rich, so that kids can eat - is somehow seen as "revolutionary". That's part of the language now I suppose. I'm genuinely interested in your views on people who prefer to donate money to those working & campaigning to address & overcome the root causes of poverty. I know it can be seen as pissing in the wind & virtue signalling.

To be honest, I didn’t mean to imply that progressive tax is revolutionary. Rather that the majority of my fellow voters disagreed with me in their choice of government, and I have to suck that up until arguments are won at the ballot box. And being a soft shite, I’m a democrat, not an insurgent.

I’ve no issue at all with people pointing their hard earned cash towards political causes. But it’s not a binary choice for me.

Anyway, I’ve veered into P-word territory. Time to slip into background and hope no one noticed.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

To be honest, I didn’t mean to imply that progressive tax is revolutionary. Rather that the majority of my fellow voters disagreed with me in their choice of government, and I have to suck that up until arguments are won at the ballot box. And being a soft shite, I’m a democrat, not an insurgent.

I’ve no issue at all with people pointing their hard earned cash towards political causes. But it’s not a binary choice for me.

Anyway, I’ve veered into P-word territory. Time to slip into background and hope no one noticed.

Absolutely. I'm happy to pull back on P. But, still feel strongly enough to say - kids down my street having to rely on charity to eat - seems wrong to me.

 

[SwissBlade]

After starting the #FifteensObscene campaign and seeing Newcastle fans do great work raising money for a foodbank, I've set up a JustGiving for St Luke's Hospice if any of our fans would like to help out.

If even 100 people donate £14.95 it makes £1495 which would make a big difference to St Luke's at the moment.

Donate to St Luke's Hospice to protest PPV Football

Help Ciaron Elm raise money to support St Luke's - Sheffield's Hospice

www.justgiving.com

I donate £6.99 to the dodgy stream provider I pay for which probably funds isis

 

[JohnDenver]

Absolutely. I'm happy to pull back on P. But, still feel strongly enough to say - kids down my street having to rely on charity to eat - seems wrong to me.

It is a failure.