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again you could say that about morgans elbow

I refuse to believe any player goes out to break legs or skulls

you cant really believe he thought I know Ill break his leg here
he had to be cautious as he was in he box , so hed be in 2 minds as he might give away a penalty

i doubt he intended to break his leg, but I think he definitely wanted to leave a mark on him and let him know he was there
 



again you could say that about morgans elbow

I refuse to believe any player goes out to break legs or skulls

you cant really believe he thought I know Ill break his leg here
he had to be cautious as he was in he box , so hed be in 2 minds as he might give away a penalty

My opinion is that he left his foot in to cause Coutts some discomfort, possibly so he may even have to go off. I do not think or have ever said that it was his intention to break his leg. As for, predicting the arc of his leg? If he knows where the ball is it’s simple to also know where the leg that’s kicking it will be, isn’t it??

As for Morgan, I don’t think footballers are unaware of the position of their various limbs at any time during a game, though many use that as a defence. No, I don’t think it was an accident, but neither do I think he intended to fracture his skull.
 
Martin Waghorn may have finished the game but you’re focusing on the result of the tackle rather than the tackle itself. Wright’s tackle was just as bad if not worse and it was a much later than Sordell’s. I’ve seen much worse tackles than the one in question that haven’t resulted in injury because the people involved got lucky, does saying that also destroy my credibility?

If it was that instinctive you’d also be aware of the chances of giving a penalty away, which it should have been, but the point is that it happened too quickly for him to think about it or the consequences (penalty and potential injury). There was no ‘malice aforethought’ because there was no time to think.

This will surprise you, but some Footballers have ‘malice aforethought’ from the moment they put their boots on until the minute they take them off. Especially towards someone who is running the game. All they’re waiting for is opportunity, I’m sorry if that skews your view of the beautiful game :(
 
Some are there to mix it up a bit and weve had our share of enforcers but they go out with the intent of rattling an opponent. Not breaking them
 
As for, predicting the arc of his leg? If he knows where the ball is it’s simple to also know where the leg that’s kicking it will be, isn’t it??
again he was aware he was in the box .if he's as alert as you make him out to be .So aiming deliberately to catch the leg is stupid as he can give away a penalty. I think his sole aim was to block .It's all he safely could do not to concede a pen
 
My opinion is that he left his foot in to cause Coutts some discomfort, possibly so he may even have to go off. I do not think or have ever said that it was his intention to break his leg. As for, predicting the arc of his leg? If he knows where the ball is it’s simple to also know where the leg that’s kicking it will be, isn’t it??

As for Morgan, I don’t think footballers are unaware of the position of their various limbs at any time during a game, though many use that as a defence. No, I don’t think it was an accident, but neither do I think he intended to fracture his skull.

With Morgan and Hulme, there'd been a lot of little nibbles at each other during that game prior to the incident - lots of little kicks and elbows and feet left in etc. But the one that caused the injury to me just looked like Morgan was 'making himself big' rather than actually swinging an elbow at him. Andy Carroll's on Sunday was worse.
 
With Morgan and Hulme, there'd been a lot of little nibbles at each other during that game prior to the incident - lots of little kicks and elbows and feet left in etc. But the one that caused the injury to me just looked like Morgan was 'making himself big' rather than actually swinging an elbow at him. Andy Carroll's on Sunday was worse.
my point being Barsley fans were adamant he kne the precise angle he needed to throw his elbow to fracture his skill ad I dont think that was possible either , Hume had to have his head bowed a little to get caught there
ssme here , Sordell could not calculate Coutts follow through , force swing and speed to get it in the sweet spot to fracture it
 
Sordell could not calculate Coutts follow through , force swing and speed to get it in the sweet spot to fracture it

As has been explained several times on here, no one is claiming Sordell could calculate the speed/force etc to fracture Coutts leg..what they are saying is that he knew that kind of 'tackle' would take Coutts out.

Just as Morgan knew swinging an elbow back would take Hume out.
 
As has been explained several times on here, no one is claiming Sordell could calculate the speed/force etc to fracture Coutts leg..what they are saying is that he knew that kind of 'tackle' would take Coutts out.

Just as Morgan knew swinging an elbow back would take Hume out.
Coutts was in the box; why would Sordell want to take him out?
 
I've already said earlier in this thread that sordell is a donkey. I think that he wanted to take coutts out of the game with that tackle but because of his lack of ability and being slow. He totally miss timed the challenge and was very lucky that the ref was a complete idiot otherwise he would have at least got a booking and the ref would have awarded us a deserved penalty. Get better soon coutts.
 
Coutts was in the box; why would Sordell want to take him out?

Perhaps he had a 'rush of blood', perhaps he simply panicked...who knows..why does anyone foul in the box, why did McFadzean take Billy out?
That's not really the point is it?
 
Roy Keane on Haaland.

Ben Thatcher?

Chopper Harris / Dave Mckay / Johnny Giles / Jack Giraffe-pig / Tommy Smith all used to enjoy getting retaliation in first and were pretty ambivalent about the consequences.
Oscar winning set of cock wombles.
 



I have a hard time believing that a player would "deliberately" break someones leg, but can entirely believe that there are "hard" men who would see such injuries as collateral damage.
 
again he was aware he was in the box .if he's as alert as you make him out to be .So aiming deliberately to catch the leg is stupid as he can give away a penalty. I think his sole aim was to block .It's all he safely could do not to concede a pen

The point is, if you just leave your foot there, it then looks to everyone else like the opponent has kicked you.

That's what he did and by locking his knee, it was like Coutts kicking his shin into a concrete lintel. You just leave your foot above the ball and let the opponents momentum carry through to impact, no trigonometry calculations, geometry or thermo nuclear dynamics involved, you just use the same human motor skills that allow you to kick the fucking ball for the rest of the game, simple or at least I thought it was. :confused:

The End. UTB:)
 
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The point is, if you just leave your foot there, it then looks to everyone else like the opponent has kicked you.

That's what he did and by locking his knee, it was like Coutts kicking his shin into a concrete lintel. You just leave your foot above the ball and let the opponents momentum carry through to impact, no trigonometry calculations, geometry or thermo nuclear dynamics involved, you just use the same human motor skills that allow you to kick the fucking ball for the rest of the game, simple or at least I thought it was. :confused:

The End. UTB:)
Id say players are the best judge of intent , how many of our players ran to Sordell and squared up to him
Who went and grabbed him by the throat for it

not one
 
I have a hard time believing that a player would "deliberately" break someones leg, but can entirely believe that there are "hard" men who would see such injuries as collateral damage.
That psychopath Keane is the exception I assume?
 
Id say players are the best judge of intent , how many of our players ran to Sordell and squared up to him
Who went and grabbed him by the throat for it

not one

And since Friday nobody connected with the club, as far as I know, has said anything about Sordell intending to injure Coutts. Says it all for me
 

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