Someone enlighten me... the Anel sending off

[Keen Blade]

Wilder said in his interview he wouldn't like to go down that route and I'm glad he did.

He can't say anything else publicly but imo we are hopeless at taking opportunities to influence.

When Robbo won a throw-in off an opponent , the latter petulantly pushed him - but Robbo's reaction is to prove his manliness by refusing to go down.
If he'd hit the deck on being pushed when ball not in play , it was at least a yellow for their guy.

CW always talks about "fine margins"

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

I’m not sure it would make much difference

Good point well made

 

[Gimli]

My point isn't whether or not he was wrong to do it. Obviously he was wrong under the current laws of the game. He clearly got carried away and didn't make a rational decision, but he didn't hurt the guy either

What my point is, whether or not those laws are right,. It's an emotional game and in my opinion the referees should be given more bandwidth to manage the game. Instant red cards may not always be necessary and all what happened today was a cheat (Bassette) prospered, which I don't want to see on any game of football

He only prospered because Anel reacted and played along. Ignore the diving cunt and celebrate the (likely) win at the end of the match.

 

[chesblade]

Hands on neck or face have been a red card for absolute years !?!?

Trouble is this happened to us last season with hands on throat and opposition players didn't even get a yellow

 

[Keen Blade]

Anel's hands were at the he top of his chest

Erratum
Sorry , I've watched it again and Anel's L hand pushes Bassets neck

 

[Rufus Smalls]

Trouble is this happened to us last season with hands on throat and opposition players didn't even get a yellow

The clear forearm smash into Vini’s face, Bristol C I think.

 

[Barry Butlin]

It’s a straight red, nothing to do what happened before

 

[Bartleby]

He can't say anything else publicly but imo we are hopeless at taking opportunities to influence.

When Robbo won a throw-in off an opponent , the latter petulantly pushed him - but Robbo's reaction is to prove his manliness by refusing to go down.
If he'd hit the deck on being pushed when ball not in play , it was at least a yellow for their guy.

CW always talks about "fine margins"

Fair enough. If we all go down that road the game just descends to the next level away from the game I want to watch. Not for me.

 

[Keen Blade]

Fair enough. If we all go down that road the game just descends to the next level away from the game I want to watch. Not for me.

I don't want to see any teams do it but since most do , we can't afford to miss opportunities to influence the ref.
The push on Robbo when the ball was dead was inexcusable but if you don't go down , the ref has no decision to make.
We are already 2 points deducted for something that wasn't our players' fault.
The battle at the top is going to be very tight , so every advantage counts.
Look at this week
Lost Blaster for the season
Lost Anel for 3 games
Moore & Brewster not returned
Campbell off for tight hammy according to CW
Fine margins.
Anyway
Come on Swansea !

 

[Cherry Street]

Because we live in a WOKE society.
Everything has to have a reason, every protest has to be allowed, everything has to be seen to be 'done right'
F**k common sense, f**k freedom of choice, f**k having an opinion that might upset do-gooders.
'You've upset me and I want reparation for your harsh words/actions'
If someone winds me up, elbows me unnecessarily and seeks to take the piss, I won't be thanking you for it and moving on.
Men want to be men, so let them be men.
That Coventry twat knew exactly what he was doing.
Fair play, he wound Anel up, but if I'd been the ref, and Anel had floored him, I'd have applauded...and given a penalty to us!

This is more right than wrong.

There are few disincentives for shithousery. It's rife in the modern game because the checks and balances we used to have, i.e., sportsmanship, respect for your opponent, and repercussions for the behaviour like Bassette's are now the exception, not the norm. Nobody needs to have Bassette's behaviour explained to them, we all know it was pathetic and wrong. The correct reaction would've been to remind him of the scoreline and move on. Sadly, Anel reacted.

It's important to remember that sport exists as a healthy and (mostly) non-violent way for men to let their anger out. That's as true for fans as it is for the players. It's a proxy for fighting and war. The softening of football (compare the Premier League to the Championship) runs parallel with our transition into an anti-confrontation society, a world of overbearing, middle-managers and HR department-adjacents.

Am I saying Anel should have reacted? Of course not. But can anyone say that handbags that resulted in exactly no physical damage to the other player should result in such a harsh penalty (45 mins at 10 men and a 3-match ban)? Come on. I know it's probably a red AcCoRdInG tO tHe LeTtEr Of ThE lAw but that's not the point that I'm making.

There was a time within our lifetimes where the ref would've given both a ticking off and moved on. Now the slightest sign of anything remotely resembling aggression has to be managed, mediated, and ultimately, quashed. Incidentally, if what had happened today had happened on a rugby pitch, even and international level, there's very likely no red card, and maybe not even a yellow.

 

[petcharlie]

Why are people arguing that the £30k per week professional sportsman shouldn’t have been sent off for grabbing someone by the throat?

Waiter in a restaurant does that, he’ll cop for it. Company secretary does it in a board meeting, she’ll cop for it. You do that to someone in front of a copper and you’ll - well - cop for it.

The cov guy was an absolute shithouse but Anel fell for it hook line and sinker, grabbed him by the throat and cost us two points as a result.

AND HE COULD COST US A FEW MORE POINTS WHEN HE IS SAT IN THE DUG OUT FOR THE NEXT FEW MATCHES . Our discipline has been shocking this season with scraps stupid yellow cards club getting fined every bloody month will in the end could cost us promotion . SENSELESS THINKING.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

This is more right than wrong.

There are few disincentives for shithousery. It's rife in the modern game because the checks and balances we used to have, i.e., sportsmanship, respect for your opponent, and repercussions for the behaviour like Bassette's are now the exception, not the norm. Nobody needs to have Bassette's behaviour explained to them, we all know it was pathetic and wrong. The correct reaction would've been to remind him of the scoreline and move on. Sadly, Anel reacted.

It's important to remember that sport exists as a healthy and (mostly) non-violent way for men to let their anger out. That's as true for fans as it is for the players. It's a proxy for fighting and war. The softening of football (compare the Premier League to the Championship) runs parallel with our transition into an anti-confrontation society, a world of overbearing, middle-managers and HR department-adjacents.

Am I saying Anel should have reacted? Of course not. But can anyone say that handbags that resulted in exactly no physical damage to the other player should result in such a harsh penalty (45 mins at 10 men and a 3-match ban)? Come on. I know it's probably a red AcCoRdInG tO tHe LeTtEr Of ThE lAw but that's not the point that I'm making.

There was a time within our lifetimes where the ref would've given both a ticking off and moved on. Now the slightest sign of anything remotely resembling aggression has to be managed, mediated, and ultimately, quashed. Incidentally, if what had happened today had happened on a rugby pitch, even and international level, there's very likely no red card, and maybe not even a yellow.

I'm 62 mate, and still playing over-60's 11-aside.
We played last Sunday and after I clattered their winger with a well-timed tackle in the first minute, I checked he was OK and his response? 'That's football mate'
Later on, I made a JLT-type sliding tackle by the touch line, and their midfielder offered his hand for a high 5 saying, 'great tackle mate'
I'm not trying to tell you how good I am at defending (I'll leave that for another thread ) I just wanted to give a comparison to how the game is played in the modern age, compared to football how it used to be played - and still is - for those of us who can remember

 

[HillmortonBlade]

If he’s going to get a red, he should have swung a haymaker at the cunt.

 

[Keen Blade]

AND HE COULD COST US A FEW MORE POINTS WHEN HE IS SAT IN THE DUG OUT FOR THE NEXT FEW MATCHES . Our discipline has been shocking this season with scraps stupid yellow cards club getting fined every bloody month will in the end could cost us promotion . SENSELESS THINKING.

Plenty were warning about our discipline earlier in the season , Hamer was lucky not to get a yellow today.
We have collected plenty of yellows and more bans will be coming.
Simply can't afford this with a thin squad & injuries.

 

[Bartleby]

I don't want to see any teams do it but since most do , we can't afford to miss opportunities to influence the ref.

Yes, I get that.

I'm already at a point where I enjoy watching football less, especially the Prem with VAR and the starstruck/incompetent/biased referees and the dominance of a small number of rich clubs and wanker pundits.

For me this side of it is just making it even less of a game I want to watch. I always used to watch/record MOTD religiously whether we were in the top flight or not, I never do now.

At it's best it is still the beautiful game, but with all this shit I'm thinking I might start going back to watching my local rugby league team again.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Have the bollocks to appeal that one Utd, cos as sure as eggs is eggs, you would win that one.

Unless it suits to give AA a breather for whatever reason.

UTB

 

[Keen Blade]

Yes, I get that.

I'm already at a point where I enjoy watching football less, especially the Prem with VAR and the starstruck/incompetent/biased referees and the dominance of a small number of rich clubs and wanker pundits.

For me this side of it is just making it even less of a game I want to watch. I always used to watch/record MOTD religiously whether we were in the top flight or not, I never do now.

At it's best it is still the beautiful game, but with all this shit I'm thinking I might start going back to watching my local rugby league team again.

Take your point , the whole game is suffering from unattractive corrosion of sporting values.
If I were 16 , I might not choose to follow it.
Trouble is , I'm 66 and a fan for 56 years , so it's in the blood.
There are many aspects about the modern game which I detest , and I have to put in the effort to try and ignore them

 

[Bartleby]

Take your point , the whole game is suffering from unattractive corrosion of sporting values.
If I were 16 , I might not choose to follow it.
Trouble is , I'm 66 and a fan for 56 years , so it's in the blood.
There are many aspects about the modern game which I detest , and I have to put in the effort to try and ignore them

I know I'm 67 and still have vivid memories of Woodward/Currie era and England winning the world cup. Despite my earlier rhetoric I know I'll never give up on the Blades, can't get excited about England any more though.

 

[robbiez666]

So I get that in "modern day football", the rules are that Anel raising his hands results in a sending off and he had to go.

This really confuses me. Retaliation is not a red card now but it was for decades. He retaliated.

What is this to do with 'modern day football'?

 

[Blackheath Blade]

It’s a straight red, nothing to do what happened before

Which is why I was surprised at amount of applause Anel received from our support while walking off the pitch. Despite the provocation and his understandable anger, he was fuckin stupid in his actions and the whole game changed in Coventry's favour at that point. We have to be happy with a deserved point today but I'm convinced we'd have won that game with eleven men on the pitch second half.

 

[CornwallBlade]

This is more right than wrong.

There are few disincentives for shithousery. It's rife in the modern game because the checks and balances we used to have, i.e., sportsmanship, respect for your opponent, and repercussions for the behaviour like Bassette's are now the exception, not the norm. Nobody needs to have Bassette's behaviour explained to them, we all know it was pathetic and wrong. The correct reaction would've been to remind him of the scoreline and move on. Sadly, Anel reacted.

It's important to remember that sport exists as a healthy and (mostly) non-violent way for men to let their anger out. That's as true for fans as it is for the players. It's a proxy for fighting and war. The softening of football (compare the Premier League to the Championship) runs parallel with our transition into an anti-confrontation society, a world of overbearing, middle-managers and HR department-adjacents.

Am I saying Anel should have reacted? Of course not. But can anyone say that handbags that resulted in exactly no physical damage to the other player should result in such a harsh penalty (45 mins at 10 men and a 3-match ban)? Come on. I know it's probably a red AcCoRdInG tO tHe LeTtEr Of ThE lAw but that's not the point that I'm making.

There was a time within our lifetimes where the ref would've given both a ticking off and moved on. Now the slightest sign of anything remotely resembling aggression has to be managed, mediated, and ultimately, quashed. Incidentally, if what had happened today had happened on a rugby pitch, even and international level, there's very likely no red card, and maybe not even a yellow.

Excellent summary- its all going to pot. Violent conduct has no place in sport. A grown man pushes another grown man- FFS tell them not to be dickheads and get on with it. Actually, book the play acting tossers for grabbing their faces when they haven’t been touched. Instead an expensive day out is ruined as a sporting spectacle. Its all bollocks but no one will accept the need for proportional sanctions.

 

[paidsy]

Stupid mistake, but he's human. That little cunt was at it the entire game with him. I think we should have sacrificed a yellow with Souza or similar putting one on him. Someone should have dragged their studs across that cunts face.

 

[CornwallBlade]

Which is why I was surprised at amount of applause Anel received from our support while walking off the pitch. Despite the provocation and his understandable anger, he was fuckin stupid in his actions and the whole game changed in Coventry's favour at that point. We have to be happy with a deserved point today but I'm convinced we'd have won that game with eleven men on the pitch second half.

Probably more out of sympathy- he pushed someone who had just fouled him, screamed in his face and grabbed his neck. I know it’s the law but the law is bollocks. If it’s about violent conduct, someone needs to get a sense of perspective.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Stupid mistake, but he's human. That little cunt was at it the entire game with him. I think we should have sacrificed a yellow with Souza or similar putting one on him. Someone should have dragged their studs across that cunts face.

He needs a special Bramall Lane welcome when Coventry visit.

 

[paidsy]

He needs a special Bramall Lane welcome when Coventry visit.

I would be reserving a sub for the last couple of mins, if we a couple up. Have at it...

 

[moody1889]

The game is too soft i love watching a good scrap I think they should allow hockey style fighting that would sort the men out from the boys.

Little sh*t houses like Basette would not be so quick to start a fight then.

 

[William Large]

Anel has always been prone to making ridiculous challenges in and around the box so he was an obvious target for that cheating bastard to wind up.

Unfortunately nowadays it’s a clear sending off. Regardless of what anyone things about what the Cov player deserved or what anyone thinks of what is or should be a red card offence. It is one now, Anel knows it is and he shouldn’t have risen to it.

That’s easy for me to say because if it were me, I would have tried to snap the fucker in half next chance I got, but that’s one of the (many) reasons that I’m not an international footballer.

What made it worse of that the ref bought it hook line and sinker and should really have sent the cov player off also.

Another afternoon of shocking decisions - again.

 

[Agreasychipbutty]

Because we live in a WOKE society.
Everything has to have a reason, every protest has to be allowed, everything has to be seen to be 'done right'
F**k common sense, f**k freedom of choice, f**k having an opinion that might upset do-gooders.
'You've upset me and I want reparation for your harsh words/actions'
If someone winds me up, elbows me unnecessarily and seeks to take the piss, I won't be thanking you for it and moving on.
Men want to be men, so let them be men.
That Coventry twat knew exactly what he was doing.
Fair play, he wound Anel up, but if I'd been the ref, and Anel had floored him, I'd have applauded...and given a penalty to us!

 

[XH536]

He had finger marks around his neck just after...

Ye! they'd be his own.
Bassette's display of foul play today was one of worst I've seen in a long time, and believe me there were plenty of 'bassettes' around in the 50's V THE ballplayers but THE ballplayers used to give it back. Slyly.
Plus it's not known what was said to Anel by Bassette. If anything was, makes Bassette's actions even more despicable.

 

[reedy63]

I disliked how the Coventry player acted after Anel was sent off. Winked at his teammates and acted clever about it. That type of thing should be stopped. Deliberately winding a player up like that. Shows they planned it.cheating twats.